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Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If the false prophets can show great signs and wonders and nearly deceive the very elect, what power the Antichrist will have in deception

A man which the Jews will love. A man that brings peace to the Jewish neighborhood in the Middle East, that's what the Jews are expecting from the Messiah.

Netanyahu, he is trying to bring such a peace. He is already getting a huge amount of praise from the rabbi community in Israel. See this video.


If he succeeds in bringing peace he will be the Antichrist.

Most Christians already love him and he is Antichrist. He is not Israel, he is a man ruling over Israel, and there's a big difference.
What makes me suspicious is that Christians are on his side even though he's a liar and a murderer. You have to actually harden your heart against the Lord, against killing innocent women and children to love him or to like him.

I think that would be difficult to hear if you live in America, because the Jewish lobby in America pay money to the press not to let you see what's really going on. They are paid not to show you the bad things.

It will be him that signs the peace deal, but not just him. If he can defeat his enemies and bring peace to the Middle East the Jews will think he is the Messiah.

And that means he will be our Antichrist. And that means lots of Christians won't believe it to be so. He will have them fooled right until the day he sits in the temple.
And people that say he is the Antichrist the church will frown upon. Thus we will be brought before the council.

But obviously I can't see into the future. I can just do my math and go buy my gut feelings, and by my inspiration and intuition and my antennas are up. Have you ever seen such a man in your lifetime? The things he does and the things he says I've never seen before. He is a rebel against everybody, but the Jews. If he is not the Antichrist we are looking for this kind of spirit in a man, that's the spirit we should be looking for. Not King Charles who is such a conservative and a square. But a spirit that sticks out like Netanyahu.

If this is true, I am so worried for the Christian faith, as he already has them wrapped around his little finger. if it's not true, then I've got nothing to worry about. But my money is on yes, it's him. He will be there when the peace deal's done and I can't see him losing the battles ahead, especially if Trump gets into power, until Israel is given to the Gentiles.



Rev11:2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
 

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Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If the false prophets can show great signs and wonders and nearly deceive the very elect, what power the Antichrist will have in deception

A man which the Jews will love. A man that brings peace to the Jewish neighborhood in the Middle East, that's what the Jews are expecting from the Messiah.

Netanyahu, he is trying to bring such a peace. He is already getting a huge amount of praise from the rabbi community in Israel. See this video.


If he succeeds in bringing peace he will be the Antichrist.

Most Christians already love him and he is Antichrist. He is not Israel, he is a man ruling over Israel, and there's a big difference.
What makes me suspicious is that Christians are on his side even though he's a liar and a murderer. You have to actually harden your heart against the Lord, against killing innocent women and children to love him or to like him.

I think that would be difficult to hear if you live in America, because the Jewish lobby in America pay money to the press not to let you see what's really going on. They are paid not to show you the bad things.

It will be him that signs the peace deal, but not just him. If he can defeat his enemies and bring peace to the Middle East the Jews will think he is the Messiah.

And that means he will be our Antichrist. And that means lots of Christians won't believe it to be so. He will have them fooled right until the day he sits in the temple.
And people that say he is the Antichrist the church will frown upon. Thus we will be brought before the council.

But obviously I can't see into the future. I can just do my math and go buy my gut feelings, and by my inspiration and intuition and my antennas are up. Have you ever seen such a man in your lifetime? The things he does and the things he says I've never seen before. He is a rebel against everybody, but the Jews. If he is not the Antichrist we are looking for this kind of spirit in a man, that's the spirit we should be looking for. Not King Charles who is such a conservative and a square. But a spirit that sticks out like Netanyahu.

If this is true, I am so worried for the Christian faith, as he already has them wrapped around his little finger. if it's not true, then I've got nothing to worry about. But my money is on yes, it's him. He will be there when the peace deal's done and I can't see him losing the battles ahead, especially if Trump gets into power, until Israel is given to the Gentiles.



Rev11:2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
I've not seen any signs and wonders from Netanyahu. He is hated by much of the world. He does not fit. Guess again.
 

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I've not seen any signs and wonders from Netanyahu. He is hated by much of the world. He does not fit. Guess again.
Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
It's not going to be like a cartoon. Great signs and wonders have not seen them either but lots of false prophets have deceived many, with their great signs and wonders. have you seen the false prophets do any great signs and wonders. And yet their deception is everywhere. no it's not going to be like a cartoon. and Netanyahu has done lots of great signs and wonders if you think about it. Blew up 3500 people in one go all around the world, that's a great sign, the next day he blew another 2000 people up all around the world at the same time, and more, that's a great wonder. Don't expect great signs and wonders to be cartoon-like you haven't seen any great signs and wonders cartoon like so far have you. and yet the false prophets have deceived many.

It is just a guess But with strong suspicion. And as for the rest of the world hating him right now, Why should that matter it's Christians he needs to destroy which is doing a good job so far without firing a shot.
 

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I've not seen any signs and wonders from Netanyahu. He is hated by much of the world. He does not fit. Guess again.
To be fair, I always assumed Matt 24:24 occurs during the tribulation period, so I don't expect the signs and wonders till then.
 

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Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
It's not going to be like a cartoon. Great signs and wonders have not seen them either but lots of false prophets have deceived many, with their great signs and wonders. have you seen the false prophets do any great signs and wonders. And yet their deception is everywhere. no it's not going to be like a cartoon. and Netanyahu has done lots of great signs and wonders if you think about it. Blew up 3500 people in one go all around the world, that's a great sign, the next day he blew another 2000 people up all around the world at the same time, and more, that's a great wonder. Don't expect great signs and wonders to be cartoon-like you haven't seen any great signs and wonders cartoon like so far have you. and yet the false prophets have deceived many.

It is just a guess But with strong suspicion. And as for the rest of the world hating him right now, Why should that matter it's Christians he needs to destroy which is doing a good job so far without firing a shot.
It sort of doesnt really make sense to me, an Israeli leader who makes a peace deal with Israel then breaks it?
Trump or others could easier bring about a world peace deal for Israel not making any guesses just open to it happening and soon.
 

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It sort of doesnt really make sense to me, an Israeli leader who makes a peace deal with Israel then breaks it?
Trump or others could easier bring about a world peace deal for Israel not making any guesses just open to it happening and soon.
Or breaks peace deal for Israel.

He's the one striving for peace.
he will be there when a peace deal gets signed.
It's just a guess but my suspicion is just as strong as it was yesterday even after talking on Christian chat, nothing has changed my mind yet.
But keep it coming I am willing to listen.
We talk about birth pains, we know we are in the end times. Therefore the Antichrist is here. On TV somewhere. I'm saying Netanyahu.

We need to talk about it. We need to bring it out to the forefront of our topics and conversation.

We need to keep our eye out our eyes open.
Don't be angry at me for sharing in my heart.
There is something unusually amazing about this man.
If I'm right he will defeat his enemies and bring peace to the Middle East. who else is there, who comes even close to bringing peace to the Middle East. because peace needs to be brought for the Jews to recognize him as the Messiah who else is there.
 

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It sort of doesnt really make sense to me, an Israeli leader who makes a peace deal with Israel then breaks it?
Trump or others could easier bring about a world peace deal for Israel not making any guesses just open to it happening and soon.

I agree with you about Netanyahu, but Trump is too old to be the antichrist and is American. Obama doesn't qualify either. Why does everyone think the antichrist will be American????


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Matt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If the false prophets can show great signs and wonders and nearly deceive the very elect, what power the Antichrist will have in deception

A man which the Jews will love. A man that brings peace to the Jewish neighborhood in the Middle East, that's what the Jews are expecting from the Messiah.

Netanyahu, he is trying to bring such a peace. He is already getting a huge amount of praise from the rabbi community in Israel. See this video.


If he succeeds in bringing peace he will be the Antichrist.

Most Christians already love him and he is Antichrist. He is not Israel, he is a man ruling over Israel, and there's a big difference.
What makes me suspicious is that Christians are on his side even though he's a liar and a murderer. You have to actually harden your heart against the Lord, against killing innocent women and children to love him or to like him.

I think that would be difficult to hear if you live in America, because the Jewish lobby in America pay money to the press not to let you see what's really going on. They are paid not to show you the bad things.

It will be him that signs the peace deal, but not just him. If he can defeat his enemies and bring peace to the Middle East the Jews will think he is the Messiah.

And that means he will be our Antichrist. And that means lots of Christians won't believe it to be so. He will have them fooled right until the day he sits in the temple.
And people that say he is the Antichrist the church will frown upon. Thus we will be brought before the council.

But obviously I can't see into the future. I can just do my math and go buy my gut feelings, and by my inspiration and intuition and my antennas are up. Have you ever seen such a man in your lifetime? The things he does and the things he says I've never seen before. He is a rebel against everybody, but the Jews. If he is not the Antichrist we are looking for this kind of spirit in a man, that's the spirit we should be looking for. Not King Charles who is such a conservative and a square. But a spirit that sticks out like Netanyahu.

If this is true, I am so worried for the Christian faith, as he already has them wrapped around his little finger. if it's not true, then I've got nothing to worry about. But my money is on yes, it's him. He will be there when the peace deal's done and I can't see him losing the battles ahead, especially if Trump gets into power, until Israel is given to the Gentiles.



Rev11:2But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
lol the anti-Christ will not be a jew.
 

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I agree with you about Netanyahu, but Trump is too old to be the antichrist and is American. Obama doesn't qualify either. Why does everyone think the antichrist will be American????
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I believe America was made to bring about the end, and the spirit of the antichrist can be in multiple people
 

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I believe America was made to bring about the end, and the spirit of the antichrist can be in multiple people

Where does it say in the Bible that the antichrist will come from America? The revived Roman Empire from which the antichrist arises is based in Europe and the Middle East, not North America.


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Where does it say in the Bible that the antichrist will come from America? The revived Roman Empire from which the antichrist arises is based in Europe and the Middle East, not North America.


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I didn't say The anti-Christ i said one of the antichrist(s) " Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us."
 

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I didn't say The anti-Christ i said one of the antichrist(s) " Children, it is the last hour; and just as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have appeared. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19They went out from us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But their departure made it clear that none of them belonged to us."

Ah, I see what you mean. Like all the little globalist minions who are working hard to bring the whole world toward a one-world government. It is obvious that many working in the US government and wealthy elites right now are part of them, but so are the politicians and wealthy elites in other places like Europe and the Middle East. I don't think the US has cornered the market on evil. :)


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I agree with you about Netanyahu, but Trump is too old to be the antichrist and is American. Obama doesn't qualify either. Why does everyone think the antichrist will be American????


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Why is trump too old? I guess if I see if someone has 8 years of life in them then they are a possible candidate, of course every year that goes by diminishes the possibility I guess ;)

I dont know if the Antichrist is American, its just that for me the leader of the world will have to be well liked, have pretty good morals for people to trust and follow him, have a desire to bring peace to the middle east, So if I had any respect for anyone it is most often American leaders, trump scores particularly high in my regards, if I was American Ild vote for him, and he could right now bring a peace treaty to the middle east(possibly a 7yr one), and get 10 nations to sign up.

All conjecture of course.
 

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Why is trump too old? I guess if I see if someone has 8 years of life in them then they are a possible candidate, of course every year that goes by diminishes the possibility I guess ;)

I dont know if the Antichrist is American, its just that for me the leader of the world will have to be well liked, have pretty good morals for people to trust and follow him, have a desire to bring peace to the middle east, So if I had any respect for anyone it is most often American leaders, trump scores particularly high in my regards, if I was American Ild vote for him, and he could right now bring a peace treaty to the middle east(possibly a 7yr one), and get 10 nations to sign up.

All conjecture of course.

All the antichrists when they came to world power were in their 40s and 50s. Even Alexander the Great was a little younger. So Trump and Obama aren't the ones. Even Hitler was in this age range when he rose to power and killed off most of the Jews.

It's also about where the antichrist comes from. He comes from the revived Roman Empire - that's Europe and the Middle East. That's why this empire is represented as the pair of feet attached to the two legs (the original Roman Empire of which there is a Western part, Rome, and an Eastern part, Constantinople). All the antichrists came from this area.


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All the antichrists when they came to world power were in their 40s and 50s. Even Alexander the Great was a little younger. So Trump and Obama aren't the ones. Even Hitler was in this age range when he rose to power and killed off most of the Jews. 🍔
You could be right, in one sense it would make more sense to be a younger person, but then again its still not a requirement, so ill lean towards a younger man, with an open mind.

It's also about where the antichrist comes from. He comes from the revived Roman Empire - that's Europe and the Middle East. That's why this empire is represented as the pair of feet attached to the two legs (the original Roman Empire of which there is a Western part, Rome, and an Eastern part, Constantinople). All the antichrists came from this area.

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When talking about Empires, Persia Eygpt or Greece, or Rome sure, but that was the then known world, lots of south American countries are basically a off shoot of the roman empire, they have allegiance to the Vatican and Roman Catholicism, to me its not hard for a man who has aspirations for the world, to degree themselves both catholic and or both claim Jewish friendship/ancestry, do the trumps have ancestry back to Roman heritage? Not that its needed to become a catholic just wondering, as I see the now known world uniting and becoming an empire and one religion. (even a three equals one religion)
 

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You could be right, in one sense it would make more sense to be a younger person, but then again its still not a requirement, so ill lean towards a younger man, with an open mind.

When talking about Empires, Persia Eygpt or Greece, or Rome sure, but that was the then known world, lots of south American countries are basically a off shoot of the roman empire, they have allegiance to the Vatican and Roman Catholicism, to me its not hard for a man who has aspirations for the world, to degree themselves both catholic and or both claim Jewish friendship/ancestry, do the trumps have ancestry back to Roman heritage? Not that its needed to become a catholic just wondering, as I see the now known world uniting and becoming an empire and one religion. (even a three equals one religion)

I'm basing what I wrote on Daniel 11 which is the prophetic chapter about all the world empires and their kings from Babylon -> Medo-Persia -> Greece -> Rome -> ...which breaks up into two parts (the legs of the statue) West at Rome and East at Constantinople -> the revived Roman Empire: EU and Middle East (or rather refugees from there in the EU).

That's why I'm looking at the area of the EU for the antichrist which has both feet from the "legs" right now.

In terms of who the false Prophet will be, I agree with you that it's probably whoever the pope will be at the time when the antichrist is revealed. There was one pope from Argentina (which has very strong ties to Europe - more European than South American), but all the other popes were from the area of the Roman Empire.

Another reason why I don't think the antichrist will be American is because of our election system vs, that of the EU where it's a lot easier for a small group to bring one person to power without the protest and interference of the common man.

Moreover, the Bible doesn't ever talk about the US, so probably the US will no longer be a world power. I don't know if it will be attacked. Maybe? Because then the antichrist can swoop in and "protect" the US to make it beholden to him? I don't think the antichrist will want it utterly destroyed because the US has so many resources he would want for his benefit (like Hitler did with France). I would think he would want the US to be on his side just for that. This is why I don't believe all these false prophets that say that America will be destroyed. No, the US will probably join the antichrist's empire.


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I'm basing what I wrote on Daniel 11 which is the prophetic chapter about all the world empires and their kings from Babylon -> Medo-Persia -> Greece -> Rome -> ...which breaks up into two parts (the legs of the statue) West at Rome and East at Constantinople -> the revived Roman Empire: EU and Middle East (or rather refugees from there in the EU).

That's why I'm looking at the area of the EU for the antichrist which has both feet from the "legs" right now. 🍔
Not disagreeing at all what you say makes sense, but, just some random thoughts, the two legs also show us the ten toes, which its the ten toes that are smashed into pieces by the Stone at His return, to me the 10 toes are 10 nations that will comprise the world empire, if one can see that maybe Britain could be one of the toes, maybe they cant be, but to me a consideration should be if they can have any impact on the land of Israel, and Britain has had a role previously in ww2 and the giving of the land to Israel as per the league of nations mandate.

To me the USA is just further west, or east (in Hawaii)and geographical location is no longer such a deterrent for involvement in the middle east in other words they are part of the Europe or western civilization in a certain sense. I mean they still could today be a part of the British empire today except for certain things happening.



In terms of who the false Prophet will be, I agree with you that it's probably whoever the pope will be at the time when the antichrist is revealed. There was one pope from Argentina (which has very strong ties to Europe - more European than South American), but all the other popes were from the area of the Roman Empire.

Another reason why I don't think the antichrist will be American is because of our election system vs, that of the EU where it's a lot easier for a small group to bring one person to power without the protest and interference of the common man.

Moreover, the Bible doesn't ever talk about the US, so probably the US will no longer be a world power. I don't know if it will be attacked. Maybe? Because then the antichrist can swoop in and "protect" the US to make it beholden to him? I don't think the antichrist will want it utterly destroyed because the US has so many resources he would want for his benefit (like Hitler did with France). I would think he would want the US to be on his side just for that. This is why I don't believe all these false prophets that say that America will be destroyed. No, the US will probably join the antichrist's empire.


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My bad, I dont bother pointing out things like I believe the Antichrist turns into the false prophet after he recovers from his mortal wound, so woops I do end up conflating the roles, I mean the Antichrist builds a image of himself that all the world has to bow down and worship and all have to give allegiance too. Along with his signs and wonders.

Would you say for the Roman empire to be revived, then Italy will have to be the ruling the world?

I see an allegiance to Rome is all that is needed then if you agree that there are 10 nations, and you are sort of saying USA could join Antichrists regime, then why not be a toe, and why not then be the lead toe, supply a leader who does not even have to base himself in USA, but spend most of his time in Jerusalem for instance.

Im just bouncing thoughts, I just watch as world events happen and go aha maybe all the prophecies could finally come to pass now, and look at things accordingly so I am fluid, as obviously some things I dont understand, Yet.
 

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Thank you brothers and sisters for sharing your thoughts. The worst thing is get the more we will become friends, love you all.
 

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Not disagreeing at all what you say makes sense, but, just some random thoughts, the two legs also show us the ten toes, which its the ten toes that are smashed into pieces by the Stone at His return, to me the 10 toes are 10 nations that will comprise the world empire, if one can see that maybe Britain could be one of the toes, maybe they cant be, but to me a consideration should be if they can have any impact on the land of Israel, and Britain has had a role previously in ww2 and the giving of the land to Israel as per the league of nations mandate.

To me the USA is just further west, or east (in Hawaii)and geographical location is no longer such a deterrent for involvement in the middle east in other words they are part of the Europe or western civilization in a certain sense. I mean they still could today be a part of the British empire today except for certain things happening.
Yeah I agree with you. USA is kind of like the offspring of the UK - also Australia and New Zealand. So I do consider that they will align with the UK. The UK broke away from the EU but I have a feeling that they will remain tied somehow to the EU. I'm not sure if the UK is officially no longer on Israel's side, but I know a lot of British people still are, just as in the US, Australia and New Zealand.


My bad, I dont bother pointing out things like I believe the Antichrist turns into the false prophet after he recovers from his mortal wound, so woops I do end up conflating the roles, I mean the Antichrist builds a image of himself that all the world has to bow down and worship and all have to give allegiance too. Along with his signs and wonders.
I know AI and video/audio can make fake things look realistic so maybe that is how they'll pull off signs and wonders? I'm probably going to be like, "Wow!" But I'll have to remember not to be fooled and succumb to any of that.


Would you say for the Roman empire to be revived, then Italy will have to be the ruling the world?
I'm not sure where the antichrist will be before he abolishes the Jewish daily sacrifices and desecrates the third temple, but from what the Bible say, he will be in the Holy Land for much of the 2nd 3-1/2 years.

Right now the headquarters of the EU is in Brussels, Belgium. But Hitler ruled out of Germany, Napoleon ruled out of France. And even Antiochus IV Epiphanes ruled out of the Seleucid empire (from Thrace in Europe to the border of India). So maybe it's not the location so much as it is the world conquering "spirit" of a revived Roman empire.


I see an allegiance to Rome is all that is needed then if you agree that there are 10 nations, and you are sort of saying USA could join Antichrists regime, then why not be a toe, and why not then be the lead toe, supply a leader who does not even have to base himself in USA, but spend most of his time in Jerusalem for instance.
In terms of the "10 toes", that used to puzzle me considering more than 10 countries have membership in the EU, but then I read that the globalists want to divide the world into 10 ZONES. So I'm like, "Ah! That makes more sense!" So maybe the 10 toes are 10 zones instead of nations/countries.

In light of that, it would be easy for all of North America encompassing one of the zones so that US will be part of the EU.


Im just bouncing thoughts, I just watch as world events happen and go aha maybe all the prophecies could finally come to pass now, and look at things accordingly so I am fluid, as obviously some things I dont understand, Yet.
Yeah, me too. I just keep watch in world events and see if anything becomes clearer with the prophecies in the Bible.

It COULD happen in our lifetime. The globalists aren't telling us how advanced their technology is for the Mark of the Beast. Maybe it is a lot more than they're telling us. And there are other things to look at that could give clues.


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