Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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Cameron143 said:
So...I ask you some questions and you refuse to answer them, and then ask me questions. How about, you go back and answer my questions, and we will have the foundation in place to answer your questions.
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Honest questions man. If you feel uncomfortable in revealing your actual position......thats OK.
Its not like being secretive is uncommon around here.
 
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He also allowed the kingdom to begin the size of a mustard seed.
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Pathological lying is often done without any reason and regardless of consequences.
These lies are extensive and elaborate, and the urge to tell them is compulsive.
Pathological liars often make up stories, and ruin relationships because of their lying.‌ (webmd)

It isn’t clear whether (A) pathological liars understand that what they say isn’t true.
(B) Some people believe the things they say, even when those things are clearly false.
(C) Other pathological liars will admit that they've been lying only when their lies are proved false.‌

Good luck with your (B) person.
 
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cv5 said:
Honest questions man.
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Yours or mine?
Yours come with a bias. Even if I didn't know already what you believe, I could figure it out from the questions you posed. This is the reason I asked questions about the scripture you shared rather than jumping all over the place like your questions do.
 
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Magenta said:
Pathological lying is often done without any reason and regardless of consequences.
These lies are extensive and elaborate, and the urge to tell them is compulsive.
Pathological liars often make up stories, and ruin relationships because of their lying.‌ (webmd)

It isn’t clear whether (A) pathological liars understand that what they say isn’t true.
(B) Some people believe the things they say, even when those things are clearly false.
(C) Other pathological liars will admit that they've been lying only when their lies are proved false.‌

Good luck with your (B) person.
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I'm going for (C) and figure if I walk in the light maybe some others will step into it as well.
A friend of mine shared with me today that the light there spoken of in 1st John isn't simply about living pure and holy, but was also a call to live in the light...pun intended...of the revelation of God to us.
 
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I'm going for (C) and figure if I walk in the light maybe some others will step into it as well.
A friend of mine shared with me today that the light there spoken of in 1st John isn't simply about living pure and holy, but was also a call to live in the light...pun intended...of the revelation of God to us.
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Good luck with (C). I have tried going there with him and he steadfastly refused to admit to the truth.
One time he actually relented a little and finally agreed that I was right but then he immediately took
back his admission and reverted to his dishonest position of repeatedly and unashamedly falsifying facts.
 
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Magenta said:
Pathological lying is often done without any reason and regardless of consequences.
These lies are extensive and elaborate, and the urge to tell them is compulsive.
Pathological liars often make up stories, and ruin relationships because of their lying.‌ (webmd)

It isn’t clear whether (A) pathological liars understand that what they say isn’t true.
(B) Some people believe the things they say, even when those things are clearly false.
(C) Other pathological liars will admit that they've been lying only when their lies are proved false.‌

Good luck with your (B) person.
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This fits Donald Trump.😳
 
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Good luck with (C). I have tried going there with him and he steadfastly refused to admit to the truth.
One time he actually relented a little and finally agreed that I was right but then he immediately took
back his admission of repeatedly and unashamedly falsifying facts and reverted to his dishonest position.
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What I'm hearing is...so you're saying there's a chance.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Yours or mine?
Yours come with a bias. Even if I didn't know already what you believe, I could figure it out from the questions you posed. This is the reason I asked questions about the scripture you shared rather than jumping all over the place like your questions do.
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My beliefs? No.......I already know my beliefs. But yours? A secret more closely guarded than the nuclear codes.

So lets hear it buddy. What have you got to hide?
 
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Magenta said:
Pathological lying is often done without any reason and regardless of consequences.
These lies are extensive and elaborate, and the urge to tell them is compulsive.
Pathological liars often make up stories, and ruin relationships because of their lying.‌ (webmd)

It isn’t clear whether (A) pathological liars understand that what they say isn’t true.
(B) Some people believe the things they say, even when those things are clearly false.
(C) Other pathological liars will admit that they've been lying only when their lies are proved false.‌

Good luck with your (B) person.
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And some people believe God violates little girls who are not bequeathed with, nor provided the right to say no.

Truly, only the mind of a psychopath who belongs in prision thinks in those terms.
 
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cv5 said:
My beliefs? No.......I already know my beliefs. But yours? A secret more closely guarded than the nuclear codes.

So lets hear it buddy. What have you got to hide?
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I'm not hiding anything. But simply answering questions without going through scripture is useless. You put forth Romans 11:11-12. I asked you questions concerning those verses. You chose the verses. I merely asked what they mean in light of the passage and the particular epistle as a whole. Either you know or you don't.
 
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I'm not hiding anything. But simply answering questions without going through scripture is useless. You put forth Romans 11:11-12. I asked you questions concerning those verses. You chose the verses. I merely asked what they mean in light of the passage and the particular epistle as a whole. Either you know or you don't.
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How does this sound: simply answer those 6 questions as yes, no or not sure?
You know.........keep it simple.
 
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How does this sound: simply answer those 6 questions as yes, no or not sure?
You know.........keep it simple.
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Your questions don't stem from scripture. They are asked from a particular set of beliefs. I asked questions based on scripture that you posted. I did so to see if you understood both the passage, the immediate context of the scripture, as well as the purpose of the passage in the entire scheme of the letter.
What you see as simple is anything but. You have no underlying scripture associated with your questions. So until you provide scripture, the questions are disconnected to any underlying truth as well as having no context.
Had you taken the time to answer my questions, the framework for establishing my answers would already be front and center, as well as the context and scripture to establish my beliefs.
As it is, I can only conclude you either do not know the answers to my questions or you aren't actually serious about finding truth.
Grace and peace.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Your questions don't stem from scripture. They are asked from a particular set of beliefs. I asked questions based on scripture that you posted. I did so to see if you understood both the passage, the immediate context of the scripture, as well as the purpose of the passage in the entire scheme of the letter.
What you see as simple is anything but. You have no underlying scripture associated with your questions. So until you provide scripture, the questions are disconnected to any underlying truth as well as having no context.
Had you taken the time to answer my questions, the framework for establishing my answers would already be front and center, as well as the context and scripture to establish my beliefs.
As it is, I can only conclude you either do not know the answers to my questions or you aren't actually serious about finding truth.
Grace and peace.
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The thing is.........Rom 11:12 is so obvious and self-explainatory, that NO CHRISTIAN could possibly fail to comprehed the intended message. Yet, you feel the need to ask.

Bummer.
 
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