Confirmation bias. This thread clearly shows that the true Jews (i.e. we Christians) are hated for speaking the truth.Unfortunately this thread proves that the Jews still are hated by too many people. Iām really sad to realize that.![]()
Confirmation bias. This thread clearly shows that the true Jews (i.e. we Christians) are hated for speaking the truth.Unfortunately this thread proves that the Jews still are hated by too many people. Iām really sad to realize that.![]()
Confirmation bias. This thread clearly shows that the true Jews (i.e. we Christians) are hated for speaking the truth.
The thread shows the heresy of Replacement Theology is still alive and well, unfortunately. The devil is still doing his work, no one hates the Jews more, God's chosen people. From Martin Luther till today, people still get caught in the hateful Replacement Theology, the Jews get all the curses, the Christians get all the blessings. smh How easily people will believe a lie.
Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."I can't understand why they hate us??"
*Kicks Arabs out of the houses they built stone by stone while IDF watches...*
"It's unjustified hatred."
*Shoots at small Arab children while taking selfies and laughing...*
"We did nothing to them."
*Bulldozes stores and buildings and grave sites and schools...*
"It just [*bombs population centers*] doesn't make [*assassinates foreign diplomats*] any sense [*seizes foreign land*]!"
"We are God's Chosen People [even though we don't do ANYTHING to reflect that, and the stuff we're doing actually got ancient Israel punished]. One day He's going to turn us into good people, wait and see! In the meantime just let us continue to do whatever the hell we want without consequence otherwise you're CURSING USSSS. ACCOUNTABILITY IS A CURSEEEEEE!"
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You're being played for fools, brethren.
Unfortunately this thread proves that the Jews still are hated by too many people. Iām really sad to realize that.![]()
Case-study in the dangers of cherry-picking verses out of context @ZNP
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(Amen..)
Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance {"but they are Israel, they are Jews! God's chosen people!"}, but judge righteous judgment {Thou shall not kill(murder), thou shall not steal, thou shall not bear false witness against thy brother.}.
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Romans 1:28-31 - ...they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.
Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things [^^Those things in bold^^] are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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Romans 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
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Romans 2:9 - There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile
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Matthew 12:48 & 50 - Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?ā 50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother
Romans 14:8-9 - If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. 9 For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.
Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Question: are those currently murdering innocent people in that land our brothers based on Messiah's instructions?
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(Amen..)
2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
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James 2:1, 5-6 - My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism ["but they're Israel! God's chosen people"]. Listen, my dear brothers and sisters: Has not God chosen those who are poor in the eyes of the world to be rich in faith and to inherit the kingdom he promised those who love him? 6 But you have dishonored the poor. Is it not the rich who are exploiting you?
James 8-12 - If you really keep the royal law found in Scripture, āLove your neighbor as yourself,ā you are doing right. 9 But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as lawbreakers. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. 11 For he who said, āYou shall not commit adultery,ā also said, āYou shall not murder.ā If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker. 12 Speak and act as those who are going to be judged by the law that gives freedom,
James 2:13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
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Every passage you referenced when taken in context, teaches us to judge righteousness and fairly and as if you will be judged by the same standard.
The Modern State of Israel are murderers, liars, and thieves; they are godless and depraved. They are not held to any special position because of their appearance as Israel. We are not to play favorites because then we will be guilty of sin by being partial to The Law.
No one speaking by the Spirit of God would have a problem with the Bible. You might have a problem with an interpretation, but not with the Bible. I simply provided verses and someone calling himself Yahshua has a problem. That to me is a problem.
How could he claim they were taken out of context? I didn't provide any exposition at all, so how could they be out of context?
Is this a different gospel? Have we been appointed as judges or as witnesses? According to him every passage tells us to judge righteously and with fairness. Really?
I did not realize that there were Christians who had a matter against other Christians and had come to you to judge. I thought you were talking about Israel and their war with Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Unless you are the one quoting verses out of context? Since you have made this claim can you tell us a little more about the Christians who have come to you and asked you to judge between them?Is this wishful thinking? Are you hoping for something?
And yet, in your post here you literally concluded the very (incorrect) point I addressed proving you're taking the passage out of context.
1 Corinthians 6:1-4
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
If this is all new to you and seems foreign then I encourage you to start your study from the beginning. It may be the case that those who first taught some of us were unqualified to do so.
I did not realize that there were Christians who had a matter against other Christians and had come to you to judge. I thought you were talking about Israel and their war with Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran. Unless you are the one quoting verses out of context? Since you have made this claim can you tell us a little more about the Christians who have come to you and asked you to judge between them?
Well, it doesn't really necessitate us looking for headlines because complete fulfillment means dwelling with The Living God on earth. It's true that (a) many passages have been fulfilled before we were even born. But we also know that (b) if The Almighty and His Son aren't here then more remains to be fulfilled because They are the end of prophecy. It was written that they're supposed to dwell with us on earth.
The historicist view of eschatology follows the understanding that The Almighty is sovereign and is executing His plan across ALL human history until They are here, not just up to 70 AD; and that the book of Revelation is the portion of that plan that covers from ascension of Messiah approx 2000 years ago to descension of Messiah when He comes to crush the nations and rule.
If preterism = All is fulfilled in 70 AD...
...and Futurism = All will be fulfilled sometime in the future...
Then Historicism = Some were fulfilled in 70 AD, some are being fulfilled in our lifetime, and the rest will be fulfilled sometime in the future.
Now beyond this foundation, you'll have historicists differing in eschatological interpretations as many do within other views..
There are a few ways...
1.
Hebrews 8:8-12 references the promise made in Jeremiah 31:34 which includes:
- Putting His laws in their minds
- Writing His laws on their hearts
- Teaching/education about The Almighty will no longer be necessary because all will know Him (i.e., laws in heart & mind)
- Their sins will be forgiven and forgotten
Question: Is the bible taught today? Are there still seminaries and bible colleges? Are there weekly sermons and lessons preached? Must we still study the scriptures daily?
If the answer is "yes" then the complete fulfillment of the above promise hasn't happened yet. The Son has always known The Father and the law is already in His heart and mind. The promise is that His people will know Him so well they will not need to be taught about Him. The Messiah sacrificed Himself for sin but The Word/The Law hasn't been written on hearts yet not until the fulfillment of Ezekiel 36:27 when The Messiah covenants with the many when He returns.
Ezekiel 36:27
And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
When He came the first time He covenanted with the few as "firstfruits". The greater harvest waits for the second outpouring of His Spirit.
2.
Hebrews says that the Messiah is the mediator of this new covenant (i.e., He facilitates it as High Priest), but Israel and Judah were specifically promised to receive and experience it. Yet as a punishment for rejecting the Messiah, they were scattered and caused to forget who they were and worship false gods (i.e. false religions). So the new covenant was offered to Gentiles, but both passages say the recipients of this promise are Israel (northern house) and Judah (southern house).
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The writer of Hebrews 9 details how the first part of the ritual of Atonement (Leviticus 16) has been fulfilled in Messiah but never describes how the second part is fulfilled. Then Hebrews 9:27 describes two distinct works with a promise for the second work:
Just as man is appointed to die once, and after that to face judgment, so also Christ [first work] was offered once to bear the sins of many; and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but [second work] to bring salvation to those who eagerly await Him.
Christ was offered (past tense)...and He "will appear" (future tense) to bring...
Natural Israel
- 10 tribes (who are not Jews because Jews are from Judah)
- 2 tribes (who are Jews and Bejaminites)
Scripture says they would be:
- Scattered
- Forget they are Israel
- Worship false gods (i.e., follow false religions)
- Poor
- Innumerable (Hosea 1:10) not small in number
- Would be gathered by Messiah from the following areas: Assyria, Egypt, Cush/Ethiopia, Elam, Shinar/Babylonia, Hamath, and the islands (Isaiah 11:11)
So there's a high probability that some (not all) of them are:
- Palestinians
- Iranians
- Iraqis
- Egyptians (Mizrahi Jews)
- Africans (Ethiopian Jews)
- Syrians
- Filipinos
Those who believe they are natural Israel are Gentiles and those who have been told they are the worst of Gentiles and enemies of God are natural Israel. In other words, the two groups are flipped.
Hosea 1:10
Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass that in the place where it was said unto them, āYe are not My people,ā there it shall be said unto them, āYe are the sons of the living God.ā
Confirmation bias. This thread clearly shows that the true Jews (i.e. we Christians) are hated for speaking the truth.
CC doesn't allow this.Who here do you suspect as hating Jews? I'm curious why CC allows people to openly hate on Jews if that's the case.
Just because you and others believe it's heresy, doesn't mean it is.
Also, I have seen zero hatred from Moses in this thread. His posts and explanations have been exceptional and respectful.