Situation that is been weighing on my heart for some time.

[Subhumanoidal]

I generally agree, its just lately more and more politics have been shaping the way we live and I hate to say it, it's more of the politics on the left that are influencing my life than the politics on the right. They come off as dictators in their stances and they will not back down even if you have legitimate concerns. Another thing with me particularly is I am seen as a 'tech-bro' and they believe that because I am a single male with a high income who isn't extraordinarily social that I am not in the know of what's going on behind the scenes in the political realm. They are forcing socialism on us and the issue is that it forces a philosophy of entitlement without merit, and respect even where its undue. I'm having a very hard time getting these people to listen to me because they think I'm privileged and entitled but I have worked very hard to get to where I am.

That was essentially my point. Leftists aren't interested in talking. They yell and scream and attack. And try to force their beliefs on everyone. So why bother butting your head against a brick wall? The only one that gets hurt when you do that, is you. The wall doesn't get affected or care that you get hurt.

 

[TyrinDynasty]

I just want to know and understand why they are unable to see their blatant folly. Why do they 'defend' the defunding of police departments and why do they defend people who make bad choices repeatedly. Why do they defend the blatant poor choices that Biden and his administration has made, including the outbreak of 2 major wars and how are they so comfortable with this, even so much so that they think they're good people for it? Why do they hate abortion laws when they are much more likely to experience economic depravity by the policies of the politicians that they vote for than a complication during carriage? They even think they are helping minority groups but minority groups are the first ones to be hit by these economic policies. How are they so naive?

 

[Subhumanoidal]

I just want to know and understand why they are unable to see their blatant folly. Why do they 'defend' the defunding of police departments and why do they defend people who make bad choices repeatedly. Why do they defend the blatant poor choices that Biden and his administration has made, including the outbreak of 2 major wars and how are they so comfortable with this, even so much so that they think they're good people for it? Why do they hate abortion laws when they are much more likely to experience economic depravity by the policies of the politicians that they vote for than a complication during carriage? They even think they are helping minority groups but minority groups are the first ones to be hit by these economic policies. How are they so naive?

Why do people who gravitate towards emotional outbursts, dictatorship, anti-American, anti-democracy and violence that want to see the US fall want to defund the police? 🤔

As I said, the liberals have been playing the smarter game. Conservatives tend to still be doing many things in a fashion that isn't as effective now as it was 20 years ago.
Liberals work on people's emotions through social media. Conservatives tend to still work towards discussing policies and debates on TV.
Also liberals have infiltrated schools at all levels. Firstly colleges were taken over, and taught less important topics and focused more on gender and race and such things. It worked. Those people got out of school and got jobs. Then they started going further down the school grades to introduce more and more at younger ages.
Not to mention banning of books and other materials deemed as wrong.
I've heard of young children in class made to apologize, one at a time, for being white. Or of course the trans reading stories to classrooms or at libraries about gender identity and how they should not only accept all gender identities, but encouraged to look at themselves as possibly needing to re-indentiy their own gender.
All of this and more is done by targeting people's emotions and giving a platform to those who speak the loudest. And threats of being labeled racist, then homophobic and so on. Social pressure to conform. And of course anyone with such biases deserve it when they get attacked.

It's basically brainwashing, societal And governmental pressure to conform, mental illness, giving validity to feelings over facts, rewarding bizarre and violent behavior towards any differing views, rewarding emotional outbursts, etc...

And you yourself said you felt a pressure to just give in, despite knowing better. Imagine someone more emotionally driven or mentally off. Will they have the ability to not give in? Or people who fear retaliation? Or will they side with those that validate their emotions and mental illness as normal and acceptable?
Much of liberalism is first and foremost about self. What am I getting out of this? After that they just follow the rest of the rhetoric.

 

[TyrinDynasty]

Along with this, why do they have no value toward people who perform and achieve

Why do people who gravitate towards emotional outbursts, dictatorship, anti-American, anti-democracy and violence that want to see the US fall want to defund the police? 🤔

As I said, the liberals have been playing the smarter game. Conservatives tend to still be doing many things in a fashion that isn't as effective now as it was 20 years ago.
Liberals work on people's emotions through social media. Conservatives tend to still work towards discussing policies and debates on TV.
Also liberals have infiltrated schools at all levels. Firstly colleges were taken over, and taught less important topics and focused more on gender and race and such things. It worked. Those people got out of school and got jobs. Then they started going further down the school grades to introduce more and more at younger ages.
Not to mention banning of books and other materials deemed as wrong.
I've heard of young children in class made to apologize, one at a time, for being white. Or of course the trans reading stories to classrooms or at libraries about gender identity and how they should not only accept all gender identities, but encouraged to look at themselves as possibly needing to re-indentiy their own gender.
All of this and more is done by targeting people's emotions and giving a platform to those who speak the loudest. And threats of being labeled racist, then homophobic and so on. Social pressure to conform. And of course anyone with such biases deserve it when they get attacked.

It's basically brainwashing, societal And governmental pressure to conform, mental illness, giving validity to feelings over facts, rewarding bizarre and violent behavior towards any differing views, rewarding emotional outbursts, etc...

And you yourself said you felt a pressure to just give in, despite knowing better. Imagine someone more emotionally driven or mentally off. Will they have the ability to not give in? Or people who fear retaliation? Or will they side with those that validate their emotions and mental illness as normal and acceptable?
Much of liberalism is first and foremost about self. What am I getting out of this? After that they just follow the rest of the rhetoric.

Yeah you're right, it makes sense now.. ..I haven't figured out what I should do now though. If I should keep going back and keep trying or let it be.. They retaliated pretty hard, but I feel like if I don't fight then I pretty much watch my freedoms diminish. I had been fighting pretty hard on that forum for a long time. I have recently been watching videos on Narcissism and I am pretty certain that the person who attacked me is a Narcissists, but it seems as though the only retaliation is to ignore them. I don't know if that will work in a forum dynamic where Liberals dominate and have so much power. On one side, if I fight it's almost a guaranteed defeat, but if I don't then they slowly grow more powerful and defeat me anyway.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

Along with this, why do they have no value toward people who perform and achieve


Yeah you're right, it makes sense now.. ..I haven't figured out what I should do now though. If I should keep going back and keep trying or let it be.. They retaliated pretty hard, but I feel like if I don't fight then I pretty much watch my freedoms diminish. I had been fighting pretty hard on that forum for a long time. I have recently been watching videos on Narcissism and I am pretty certain that the person who attacked me is a Narcissists, but it seems as though the only retaliation is to ignore them. I don't know if that will work in a forum dynamic where Liberals dominate and have so much power. On one side, if I fight it's almost a guaranteed defeat, but if I don't then they slowly grow more powerful and defeat me anyway.

They don't value achievement because they hold to socialist and communist beliefs. That wealth should not be accumulated, but rather spread out. Thus anyone who keeps their wealth is bad.

Well what changes are you making by clashing with them? Is anyone listening? Anyone changing their mind? Again, banging your head on a brick wall doesn't hurt the wall, only you.
Debate is not the only way, or even best way, to change things. There are actually changes beginning to occur going against woke-ism. For instance Disney, who has been putting out nothing but woke propaganda for years. Now everything they put out they lose tons of money on. They're losing fans, and seen as ruining things such as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Marvel and Lord of the Rings. Not to mention Snow White and other classic Disney movies.
Now that people are turning against them, not going to see their movies or watch their shows, it's being said they are making changes behind the scenes. Firing the activists they hired, getting rid of some DEI, etc...
Fans spoke out with their public disapproval and pocket books and its forced a company as big as Disney to reevaluate their course.
Or look at Bud Light. They tried hopping on the bandwagon and hired a trans spoke person. They lost tons of long term customers, and money. It was so bad that they terminated their contract with the trans individual and are now trying to recover by going back to what made them popular.
Or when Target began putting up large displays for LGBT clothing for kids and adults. Right at the entrance to the store. Backlash and they ended up shrinking the size of the displays, a lot, and moving them to the back of the store.
So debating emotionally charged people full of hate is not really the way.

To check out some youtube channels that cover a lot of the cultural issues, and the way politics affect them, as well as some directly political topics try:
https://m.youtube.com/@TheAmalaEkpunobi

This guy you may know, he's a Christian that goes to colleges and sets up a little booth to debate the liberal students on politics. You'll notice when he starts winning the most common reaction is anger or just walking off.
https://m.youtube.com/@RealCharlieKirk/videos

For more movie and show topics and that arena look up Nerdrotic and The Critical Drinker on YT.

Those are just to name a few fighting against woke beliefs and can help reinforce you by seeing how many people there actually are against those beliefs. You're walking into enemy territory right now and feeling overwhelmed by that view. Change your view and go outside of those places to discover there's a lot more resistance than you think.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

They don't value achievement because they hold to socialist and communist beliefs. That wealth should not be accumulated, but rather spread out. Thus anyone who keeps their wealth is bad.

Well what changes are you making by clashing with them? Is anyone listening? Anyone changing their mind? Again, banging your head on a brick wall doesn't hurt the wall, only you.
Debate is not the only way, or even best way, to change things. There are actually changes beginning to occur going against woke-ism. For instance Disney, who has been putting out nothing but woke propaganda for years. Now everything they put out they lose tons of money on. They're losing fans, and seen as ruining things such as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Marvel and Lord of the Rings. Not to mention Snow White and other classic Disney movies.
Now that people are turning against them, not going to see their movies or watch their shows, it's being said they are making changes behind the scenes. Firing the activists they hired, getting rid of some DEI, etc...
Fans spoke out with their public disapproval and pocket books and its forced a company as big as Disney to reevaluate their course.
Or look at Bud Light. They tried hopping on the bandwagon and hired a trans spoke person. They lost tons of long term customers, and money. It was so bad that they terminated their contract with the trans individual and are now trying to recover by going back to what made them popular.
Or when Target began putting up large displays for LGBT clothing for kids and adults. Right at the entrance to the store. Backlash and they ended up shrinking the size of the displays, a lot, and moving them to the back of the store.
So debating emotionally charged people full of hate is not really the way.

To check out some youtube channels that cover a lot of the cultural issues, and the way politics affect them, as well as some directly political topics try:
https://m.youtube.com/@TheAmalaEkpunobi

This guy you may know, he's a Christian that goes to colleges and sets up a little booth to debate the liberal students on politics. You'll notice when he starts winning the most common reaction is anger or just walking off.
https://m.youtube.com/@RealCharlieKirk/videos

For more movie and show topics and that arena look up Nerdrotic and The Critical Drinker on YT.

Those are just to name a few fighting against woke beliefs and can help reinforce you by seeing how many people there actually are against those beliefs. You're walking into enemy territory right now and feeling overwhelmed by that view. Change your view and go outside of those places to discover there's a lot more resistance than you think.

Oops, LotR was Amazon not Disney. 😇