Christian Nationalist Movement in the United States

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JTB

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What did Trump do in office that was 90% against Christian principles?
Mammon worship, cheating workers, immorality, self-idolatry, abandoning the poor, sick, and foreign, spewing hate towards enemies, embracing lies and hypocrisies..? That's pretty much the entire republican platform at this point.

How about that Spiritual fruit? Love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control? We don't see much of that going on in 'christian' maga circles.

Then there's 2 Timothy 2:3-4, which states 'Join me like a good soldier of Christ Jesus. A soldier refrains from entangling himself in civilian affairs'.

And let me add that NONE of that is any reason to vote for demonrats, who push their own set of evils. But at least they don't pretend to hide behind 'christian mores'.

The cold hard fact is, BOTH sides take their orders from the same source. The left deceives the world; the right deceives believers.

We were told thousands of years ago that the world will march right into the hands of the antichrist. We were never told to try to stop it, we were told to prepare for it. "As in the days of Noah" we are told. But the more one tries to stop it, the less they put into preparation. We are also told that because many are NOT prepared, they will be turned away from the true faith. And maga is doing exactly that.

We CAN NOT vote our way out from under what God has prophesied. And we are wasting time, energy, and resources trying to do just that.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Mammon worship
No, you throw these same ones out every time without any proof other than your opinion. So I'm going to press you, like Harris, to be specific.


1. Mammon Worship- how?

2. Cheating Workers- There is no proof of this. People were doing far better under Trumps economy, especially minorities, who were at an all time low of unemployment. Also he is taking taxes off tips if he gets in again, how is that cheating the worker?

3. immorality - what did he do in the WH that was immoral?

4. Self-Idolatry - well the way that his "friends" slit his throat and the fact that MSM and social media treat him like he is a fool might make him try to defend himself. You would too.

5. Abandoning the poor, sick- How??


6. and foreign- Utterly untrue. There is a difference between those who come here legally and those who don't. That's the law.


7. spewing hate towards enemies- Answer is the same as four that I posted above. Yet plenty of these "enemies" have become some of his strongest supporters.


8. embracing lies and hypocrisies..? - Such as?


9 .That's pretty much the entire republican platform at this point - No it isn't. You're entitled to your opinion but the facts don't bear this out, not in any way.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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How about that Spiritual fruit? Love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control? We don't see much of that going on in 'christian' maga circles.

You don't because you don't want to see it. I think for a group of people that have been falsely accused of being racists, phobics of every sort, stupid, Nazis, cult members, un- Christian, and on and on and on, I think they are a pretty chill group of people. But you might want to try and sell that :poop: in NC, FL and TN about now. Because there are a HUGE bunch of MAGA folk that are digging bodies, alive and dead from mud slides. A lot of them cutting up trees, moving derbies, saving lives, using what resources they can find to help their neighbor. And they aren't stopping to ask who you're voting for. MAGA people, they run this country, the do the hard work, and they are patriots to a fault. They are the ones who don't give lip service to making America great again, they get off their behinds and do it. And ask nothing in return. That's MAGA.
 

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Then there's 2 Timothy 2:3-4, which states 'Join me like a good soldier of Christ Jesus. A soldier refrains from entangling himself in civilian affairs'.
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So a Christian should never run for any office. They should never vote. We should have just let slavery continue, child labor, genocide around the world. Just sit back and say whatever will be will be.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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And let me add that NONE of that is any reason to vote for demonrats, who push their own set of evils. But at least they don't pretend to hide behind 'christian mores'.
Oh sure they do. Obama said he was a born again Christian, then mocked the Bible when he got into office. Bill Clinton claimed to be a Christian and Hill said she was a Sunday school teacher. Biden says he is Catholic, even Pelosi claimed to be a good Catholic girl who prayed for Trump, how she didn't catch on fire from that lie is beyond me. They haven't hit Kammy with that because she's hiding from the media. If pushed I'm sure she'd say she's some form of Christian.



The cold hard fact is, BOTH sides take their orders from the same source. The left deceives the world; the right deceives believers.
Not so if the stats are true, that most Christians are so apathetic that they don't vote.



We were told thousands of years ago that the world will march right into the hands of the antichrist. We were never told to try to stop it, we were told to prepare for it. "As in the days of Noah" we are told. But the more one tries to stop it, the less they put into preparation. We are also told that because many are NOT prepared, they will be turned away from the true faith. And maga is doing exactly that.

We CAN NOT vote our way out from under what God has prophesied. And we are wasting time, energy, and resources trying to do just that.
So again, we should have left slavery in place, never stepped in to stop child labor, genocide around the world, or famine, left the Jews to all die in the Holocaust. Because everything will get worse so we should just let it go. Got it.
 

JTB

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No, you throw these same ones out every time without any proof other than your opinion. So I'm going to press you, like Harris, to be specific.
You deserve proof. I'll give you that. But here's the hang up:

The proof is out there. You've seen and heard it at least a hundred times. So, is my parroting it again for a 101st time going to make a difference? No, not at all. When shown irrefutable proof, people on both sides choose to continue in the lie. To paraphrase what the Borg say, repetition is futile.

So the question becomes, is it worth my time to distill pages of information you've already dismissed and denied? No, my time is better spent praying that peoples eyes and ears be opened to what's already clearly in front of them.

That's why ephphatha is a big part of my prayers. The problem isn't that you're not being shown proof, the problem is you've chosen to close your eyes and ears to it.

I would think that my also being against the demonrats would buy me a little credibility, but again, that does little in the face of willful ignorance (no offense intended).

So yes, you deserve proof.

Problem is, you're already ignoring it.
 

JTB

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there are a HUGE bunch of MAGA folk that are digging bodies, alive and dead from mud slides. A lot of them cutting up trees, moving derbies, saving lives, using what resources they can find to help their neighbor.
IF that is true, I give them accolades and kudos.

And it's about time.
 

JTB

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Sorry, the Spirit wouldn't let me pass over this one.

I just can't imagine Jesus using the steaming pile o' sh!t emoji. Yet here it is showing YOUR attitude. Is that really a Christian moral we should follow? Or is it your human flesh one-upping what the Holy Spirit would have you express?

THAT"S what is going on here. satan using the flesh to one-up what Christians SHOULD be expressing and doing. I.E., leading them away from God's Ways while allowing them to think they are true followers.

Gee if only God had warned us about this.

Oh wait, HE DID.

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Mammon worship, cheating workers, immorality, self-idolatry, abandoning the poor, sick, and foreign, spewing hate towards enemies, embracing lies and hypocrisies..? That's pretty much the entire republican platform at this point.

How about that Spiritual fruit? Love, peace, joy, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self control? We don't see much of that going on in 'christian' maga circles.

Then there's 2 Timothy 2:3-4, which states 'Join me like a good soldier of Christ Jesus. A soldier refrains from entangling himself in civilian affairs'.

And let me add that NONE of that is any reason to vote for demonrats, who push their own set of evils. But at least they don't pretend to hide behind 'christian mores'.

The cold hard fact is, BOTH sides take their orders from the same source. The left deceives the world; the right deceives believers.

We were told thousands of years ago that the world will march right into the hands of the antichrist. We were never told to try to stop it, we were told to prepare for it. "As in the days of Noah" we are told. But the more one tries to stop it, the less they put into preparation. We are also told that because many are NOT prepared, they will be turned away from the true faith. And maga is doing exactly that.

We CAN NOT vote our way out from under what God has prophesied. And we are wasting time, energy, and resources trying to do just that.
your right brother, its all evil imo
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Sorry, the Spirit wouldn't let me pass over this one.

I just can't imagine Jesus using the steaming pile o' sh!t emoji.
Yet here it is showing YOUR attitude. Is that really a Christian moral we should follow? Or is it your human flesh one-upping what the Holy Spirit would have you express?
Are you joking??! I don't own this site and I did not put that emotion there!! Your issue is with the person that allowed it to be used. Have you called anyone else out for using the emotion??! If so, show me.



THAT"S what is going on here. satan using the flesh to one-up what Christians SHOULD be expressing and doing. I.E., leading them away from God's Ways while allowing them to think they are true followers.
Yeah, I'm not a keyboard warrior. I've lived a real life, one that you know nothing about and one I doubt you'd live. We'll leave it at that about your "true follower" comment.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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IF that is true, I give them accolades and kudos.

And it's about time.

It is true. And they have always been this way. You need to get out of your small circle and open your eyes.
 

JTB

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Rosea, your attitude says it all. Truly lacking the love of Jesus, with anger and vitriol in it's place. Really proves my points. I wish you blessings, and that some day your eyes are opened to the Truths of God instead of the desires of men.

Ephphatha!
 

Derobo

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Rosea, your attitude says it all. Truly lacking the love of Jesus, with anger and vitriol in it's place. Really proves my points. I wish you blessings, and that some day your eyes are opened to the Truths of God instead of the desires of men.

Ephphatha!
who are you replying to my friend?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Rosea, your attitude says it all. Truly lacking the love of Jesus, with anger and vitriol in it's place. Really proves my points. I wish you blessings, and that some day your eyes are opened to the Truths of God instead of the desires of men.

Ephphatha!

Here's the good thing, you don't know me and so, yet another of your opinions does't matter. My anger is a righteous anger. Who I lack loving, I don't know where you get this charge from. I noticed you still didn't answer the question of whether you have children or grandchildren. If you do, I don't understand your utter lack of caring about their future.

BTW if this :poop: means what JT seems to think it does, it should be removed from the choices.