Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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SonJudgment

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seed_time_harvest said:
I wish they would work together to get things done.
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Only way I can see that happening is for Trump to win then and for the shock of it to cause the democrats to introspect upon themselves and repent and reform. Even this though like others pointed out is maybe futile and hopeless, a "can the leopard change his spots" type thought, but it's the best and only real chance for it. I would argue it's not a totally wild prediction nor longshot chance when you see RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard already turned their hearts and were accepted. More recently too though they won't outright side with Trump even bigtime lefties like Ana Kasparian and Bill Maher are at least not going to shill for the democrats nor defend them any longer and are willing to try to make it work with Trump it seems, and you see them being accepted by the right too.
 
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Speaking on Ana Kasparian, here you go, the article written by her lately that is proving to be a big political talk and a regular American woman's reaction to it. This is relevant as of course Donald Trump is cited quite a bit in it and is relevant and revealing of the melting down Kamala's campaign as we enter the last month until the election.
 
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Notice the audience reaction when the Donald says a lot of people think he should go after his enemies and get payback. They love it; this is the real reason they love him. Very telling.

 
Cameron143

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ResidentAlien said:
Notice the audience reaction when the Donald says a lot of people think he should go after his enemies and get payback. They love it; this is the real reason they love him. Very telling.

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Because people want justice rather than injustice to prevail again is a good thing. Some may want vengeance which is wrong, but that isn't what most want. Most want the crooked people running weaponized agencies of government to be held to account, and those agencies to be restored to their actual function.
Perhaps you will be inclined to make a list for us of the government agencies that are actually helping the American people.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Because people want justice rather than injustice to prevail again is a good thing. Some may want vengeance which is wrong, but that isn't what most want. Most want the crooked people running weaponized agencies of government to be held to account, and those agencies to be restored to their actual function.
Perhaps you will be inclined to make a list for us of the government agencies that are actually helping the American people.
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That will never happen. All people are crooked until they are saved and given a new heart. The way most people come to the Lord is they see where the path they are on is leading. After the rapture the prophets describe the world saying the good people are gone, everyone is wicked. Then people realize they are on a highway that leads to hell and it will cause many of them to repent.
 
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ZNP said:
That will never happen. All people are crooked until they are saved and given a new heart. The way most people come to the Lord is they see where the path they are on is leading. After the rapture the prophets describe the world saying the good people are gone, everyone is wicked. Then people realize they are on a highway that leads to hell and it will cause many of them to repent.
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That's one take. We'll see. God has restored justice many times.
 
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Cameron143 said:
That's one take. We'll see. God has restored justice many times.
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When? Generally after a horrific war, plague or depression.

Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
 
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ZNP said:
When? Generally after a horrific war, plague or depression.

Matthew 12:29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.
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The when hopefully is soon. But more important than when is Who. Jesus has been plundering Satan's domain for over 2,000 years, and Satan has been impotent to do anything about it.
 
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Cameron143 said:
The when hopefully is soon. But more important than when is Who. Jesus has been plundering Satan's domain for over 2,000 years, and Satan has been impotent to do anything about it.
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Yes, and it wasn't power or might but by His Spirit.
 
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Cameron143 said:
The when hopefully is soon. But more important than when is Who. Jesus has been plundering Satan's domain for over 2,000 years, and Satan has been impotent to do anything about it.
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Yep, a strong case from the Bible can actually be made on the when.
 
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Cameron143 said:
The when is as varied as the one proposing the timing. The Who is set in stone.
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Abraham knew when Sodom would be destroyed, Lot did too. But everyone else didn't.

Noah knew when to enter the ark, the rest of his family as well, but everyone else didn't.

Elijah and the prophets knew the day he would be taken up, but likely they were the only ones and only Elisha refused to leave him.

Jonah proposed the timing of 40 days. That was from God, He relented because they repented and didn't know the right hand from the left.

God says He doesn't do anything without first telling His prophets. No doubt that would include the rapture.

God also said He tells us the end from the beginning because it is proof that He is God and there is no other. Again, that would certainly apply to the rapture.
 
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ZNP said:
No doubt that would include the rapture.
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Agree. We do not know the precise moment, but we do know the times and seasons.
Who in their right mind would could fail to recognize that these are the days?
 
Cameron143

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Abraham knew when Sodom would be destroyed, Lot did too. But everyone else didn't.

Noah knew when to enter the ark, the rest of his family as well, but everyone else didn't.

Elijah and the prophets knew the day he would be taken up, but likely they were the only ones and only Elisha refused to leave him.

Jonah proposed the timing of 40 days. That was from God, He relented because they repented and didn't know the right hand from the left.

God says He doesn't do anything without first telling His prophets. No doubt that would include the rapture.

God also said He tells us the end from the beginning because it is proof that He is God and there is no other. Again, that would certainly apply to the rapture.
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I don't disagree. But my point is more people will be wrong than right. You may well believe you have the timing right. I don't believe you do, and I get that from the same Bible you say is guiding you.
We'll see.
 
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An acquaintance of mine sent me this video. The Youtuber is a former Christian, but he provides clear facts that expose Trump's false claims that cannot be ignored...
 
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