Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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1 Timothy 4:12 Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity. 13 Till I come, give attendance to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine. 14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the laying on of the hands of the presbytery.

The word of God is balanced. The presbytery is a body of elders. So at the start Paul says "let no one despise thy youth" and in the end the gift is given by both prophecy and the laying on of hands of the body of elders.

We can illustrate this with Tom Brady. He famously prophesied when he was first drafted that Kraft would view him as the best decision they ever made. He was despised for much of his career which is why he was drafted so late, and why he was paid so little, and why many people hated him. But in the end even his greatest detractors had to admit that you cannot despise him and calling him the greatest quarterback ever was impossible to refute.

So that is how I view Bible teachers, what do the body of elders say? I realize that all the greats are despised at first, so that doesn't bother me. But in the end were the body of elders won over?
BTW......typo. Meant to say 2 Ki 1 etc. Not 1 Kings,
My bad.
 

cv5

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Only because it has become legitimized.

It is just not a priority for you, but for many babies ripped to pieces while in the womb it is a priority because evil is never contained but spreads and is insidious.

Laws are part of governance.

If the babies are sacrificed to Moloch after birth then does it become part of the political sphere then?
At one time abortion had the same level of gravity.
Its impossible to enforce. Thats the problem.
Its like saying that you want laws outlawing fornication. Good luck with that.
 

SonJudgment

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What are the reasons so many believers trust/support Trump? He doesn't even hide where his allegiance lies.
It's really simple actually. The first point is we know that Trump will do what is good on the major issues. The second point is really more to do with the democrats and how they have become totally evil
 

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Its impossible to enforce. Thats the problem.
Its like saying that you want laws outlawing fornication. Good luck with that.
Fornication does not end a life, not morally equivalent.
It was enforced at one time, doctors refused.
 

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I have to say, the thing I find most disturbing of all in this video is when the woman says to Trump: "You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals," and the audience starts laughing. This guy is the loser of all losers.

 

cv5

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Fornication does not end a life, not morally equivalent.
It was enforced at one time, doctors refused.
The question is going to be kicked to the states where it belongs. Let them deal with it.
At the federal level it should be abandoned. Which SCOTUS rightly did.
 

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I have to say, the thing I find most disturbing of all in this video is when the woman says to Trump: "You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals," and the audience starts laughing. This guy is the loser of all losers.

Well I think Trump is lacking in many areas as a leader,

having stated this Evangelicals for Harris is a complete oxymoron.

So Trump is a horrible person and should not be supported by an evangelical ...... but evangelicals can support Harris whose policies are diametrically opposed to the Christian faith.
 

cv5

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Well I think Trump is lacking in many areas as a leader,

having stated this Evangelicals for Harris is a complete oxymoron.

So Trump is a horrible person and should not be supported by an evangelical ...... but evangelicals can support Harris whose policies are diametrically opposed to the Christian faith.
Thank goodness that @ResidentAlien is not a Levite looking for leprosy.

If he was say bye bye to the family farm.
 

PennEd

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I have to say, the thing I find most disturbing of all in this video is when the woman says to Trump: "You've called women you don't like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals," and the audience starts laughing. This guy is the loser of all losers.

Wondering just how much lower RA can sink.

Actually promoting Christians for Harris.

I feel dirty just replying to this guy.
 

ZNP

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Wondering just how much lower RA can sink.

Actually promoting Christians for Harris.

I feel dirty just replying to this guy.
Why bother, it is clear he doesn't regard anything anyone says to him.

BTW I just saw 4 Harris/Walz signs in White Bear, Mn. That doubles the total number I have seen in Mn. So even in Mn the Trump supporters are much more visible and vocal than the Harris/Walz voters. Also, I have not seen a single bumper sticker for Harris/Walz
 
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It's really simple actually. The first point is we know that Trump will do what is good on the major issues. The second point is really more to do with the democrats and how they have become totally evil
Liz Cheney is a republican.
 

PennEd

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Why bother, it is clear he doesn't regard anything anyone says to him.

BTW I just saw 4 Harris/Walz signs in White Bear, Mn. That doubles the total number I have seen in Mn. So even in Mn the Trump supporters are much more visible and vocal than the Harris/Walz voters. Also, I have not seen a single bumper sticker for Harris/Walz
We’re addressing a wider audience.
 

ZNP

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Why bother, it is clear he doesn't regard anything anyone says to him.
We’re addressing a wider audience.
I suspect at this point there are very few fence sitters. But if there are they are reading posts by you and a number of others and should have figured out by now where everyone stands.
 

SonJudgment

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Liz Cheney is a republican.
Nah she got thrown out of the GOP, and then she got thrown out of office in a deep red state. Little advice, but trying to appeal to conservatives with Liz Cheney is like trying to appeal to chickens with Colonel Sanders. It's as ridiculous as the Evangelicals For Harris thing where they try to deceive us by editting Billy Graham clips to make it seem like he is defending a literal fat disgusting feminist lesbian slob like Rosie O'Donnell. By trying to deceive us into supporting Jezebel it's only really going to confirm everything we already know about her and her evil supporters.
 
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Nah she got thrown out of the GOP, and then she got thrown out of office in a deep red state. Little advice, but trying to appeal to conservatives with Liz Cheney is like trying to appeal to chickens with Colonel Sanders. It's as ridiculous as the Evangelicals For Harris thing where they try to deceive us by editting Billy Graham clips to make it seem like he is defending a literal fat disgusting feminist lesbian slob like Rosie O'Donnell. By trying to deceive us into supporting Jezebel it's only really going to confirm everything we already know about her and her evil supporters.
I wish they would work together to get things done.