Is voting a Christian duty?

[CS1]

yes we are - and the land's laws do not require anyone to vote.

that is true but they do ask one to do so in exercising ones rights

 

[cv5]

Trump is holding steady at 313 in the EC. Trump is also enjoying a 3 point lead nationally as well.
I would suggest a solid 5% stealth vote similar to 2016. And thankfully we are not dealing with the COVID voting fraud scheme this go-around.

This is of course good news.

Maybe, MAYBE we get a 4 year breather and keep WW3 and Ezekiel 38 at bay a while longer so that more souls will be brought into the kingdom. If we get REALLY lucky, it will be a supermajority. And hopefully America will reverse all of the horrible things that it has
been plagued with over the last 4 years.

But who really knows what the Lord has judged in the matter of the future of America. We had all better pray. Because the Republic is on its death bed and ready to expire if things don't change for the better.

 

[posthuman]

Maybe, MAYBE we get a 4 year breather and keep WW3 and Ezekiel 38 at bay a while longer

Um...

not if we elect the guy who encourages Russia and Turkey and Iran to go ahead and do whatever they want...

the liar who claims he is the only one in the world able to make peace in the middle east?
You know the Bible says exactly one person will ever make peace in the Levant, and that he will be a liar and that he will make a false peace that lasts exactly 3 years before Russia, Iran and Turkey - Trump's dictator pals btw - invade.

it will be as it is destined to be, in the time He has set for it. our votes do not change this: that's a false fearmongering they put out to make you give them power.

 

[HeIsHere]

i suspect that anyone who truly does the things does not involve themselves with worldly political matters.
running for office is almost exactly the opposite of humility.

Only if the person has the wrong motives and intentions.

I have met many honourable servant leaders.

 

[posthuman]

But who really knows what the Lord has judged in the matter of the future of America.

one of the young lions, children of the former british empire, who makes a show of protesting but doesn't lift a finger.

which speaks of an isolationist demagogue ruler of the usa who probably makes some fake show of pretending to be a Christian, in the last days.

that's all we are, but we are incredibly, irreconcilably vain as a nation, regardless.

the world revolves around Jerusalem not america.

 

[cv5]

Um...

not if we elect the guy who encourages Russia and Turkey and Iran to go ahead and do whatever they want...

the liar who claims he is the only one in the world able to make peace in the middle east?
You know the Bible says exactly one person will ever make peace in the Levant, and that he will be a liar and that he will make a false peace that lasts exactly 3 years before Russia, Iran and Turkey - Trump's dictator pals btw - invade.

it will be as it is destined to be, in the time He has set for it. our votes do not change this: that's a false fearmongering they put out to make you give them power.

I always ALWAYS vote for my own individual rights and freedoms. Thats it. Thats all.

The rest is noise.

 

[HeIsHere]

That's a propaganda slogan, not a platform. It presupposes the country is terrible, which is antithetical to loving the country. And implying that your political rivals are seeking to destroy the country is not only a blatant lie, but also completely antithetical to improving the country - it creates hatred and division, sows violence, distrust and disunity, all things which actually destroy a nation, and none of these things are Christian values.

Was it a slogan when Ronald Reagan used it?

Or is it only repugnant and a lie to people who dislike Trump?

 

[cv5]

one of the young lions, children of the UK empire, who makes a show of protesting but doesn't lift a finger.

that's all we are, but incredibly vain.

The UK is done for. Its over. The worthless socialists will finish them off.
A third rate rabble rouser nation that cannot field an army OR a navy.

And if America is stupid and whiney and foolish and idle and indolent and heedless and pathetic.....

I fear they are next.

Where oh where has the spirit of 1776 gone?

 

[posthuman]

that is true but they do ask one to do so in exercising ones rights

agreed

my point is that a conscientious objecter does not incur guilt for abstaining from voting

 

[posthuman]

Where oh where has the spirit of 1776 gone?

the spirit of hatred for neighbors, and of rebellion against the courts, the law and the government itself is alive and well, and running for office a third time straight ha

stands a good chance of winning, too

 

[posthuman]

The UK is done for. Its over. The worthless socialists will finish them off.
A third rate rabble rouser nation that cannot field an army OR a navy.

Ezekiel 38:13
Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, 'Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?'"'

America in the Bible. a young lion, offspring of the British empire, who embodied Tarshish with her great merchant navy, whose symbol was the lion.

 

[Nehemiah6]

A citizen definitely should vote. And vote for whomever will provide the best possible insurance that your
RIGHTS and FREEDOMS duly codified into law will be PRESERVED. And never, ever vote for welfare from the government.

Agreed. But I am unable to use the emoji since last week. Not sure why and not sure if others are having this problem.

 

[cv5]

Ezekiel 38:13
Sheba, Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish, and all their young lions will say to you, 'Have you come to take plunder? Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder?'"'

America in the Bible. a young lion, offspring of the British empire, who embodied Tarshish with her great merchant navy, whose symbol was the lion.

Yes........I am very well aware of those passages.
But my point regarding the UK stands. All talk ("will say") with no ability to act.

 

[Derobo]

If we can make a change then why not?
the big question is can we make a change by voting for one over the other? or are they all bad... its a deep issue.

 

[cv5]

If we can make a change then why not?
the big question is can we make a change by voting for one over the other? or are they all bad... its a deep issue.

The Monty Hall Paradox says: ALWAYS make the change.

 

[Aussie52]

Politics is a part of the 'world system'..kosmos, that we are to be apart from.
John tells us to not love the world or the things of the world.
James says friendship with the world is enmity with God.
Paul says don't be conformed to the world.

When you get involved with politics, you are touching a satanic system that will ultimately destroy your testimony for Christ or worse!

 

[posthuman]

Agreed. But I am unable to use the emoji since last week. Not sure why and not sure if others are having this problem.

Yes, having the same issue here too

 

[Hakawaka]

we are to obey the laws of the land, right?

Romans 13:1-2,

What law commands you to vote?

 

[cv5]

Politics is a part of the 'world system'..kosmos, that we are to be apart from.
John tells us to not love the world or the things of the world.
James says friendship with the world is enmity with God.
Paul says don't be conformed to the world.

When you get involved with politics, you are touching a satanic system that will ultimately destroy your testimony for Christ or worse!

Love politics? No I despise politics.
But I hold my nose and vote anyway.

And weed out as many of the most sinister and diabolical of the lot as I can.

 

[JohnRH]

Yes it does. I quoted directly from it, and it does require that all citizens vote. What more do you want?

I don't know what quote you're referring to.
Do you know of a case, since the existence of the constitution, where a U.S. citizen has been fined or imprisoned for not voting? I can't think of any. It must not be a law of the land.

And even the Amish -- who benefit from their religious freedom in the States -- need to understand that because they RFUSE to vote, they will lose their religious freedoms. After all they are citizens and voting in good conscience is all that is needed.

Apparently they can't vote in good conscience. When they vote for one professional liar over another professional liar, they're voting for a professional liar. Not everyone can do that with a good conscience.

No one can honestly say that they cannot vote for Trump in good conscience.

Can you honestly say that you can read another man's conscience?