How can you "test" something that is but a claim???The Bible says to test the spirits so that's the first response.
If the miracles passes the test, just thank God for them.
Done!
Mark 3:1-6 and Modern Day Miracles
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What is your point?
Were not the "miracles performed by Christ" supernatural physical manifestations?
So why are you not simply ignoring these claims? If there is nothing there, then let it go? Why make a new thread about things that do not exist. And manna from Heaven and the parting of the Red Sea are not even relevant. All those miracles were for Israel way in the past. But the miracles of Christ and the apostles are more relevant for Christians. The reason for them was to primarily believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and also believe the Gospel. Today anyone who claims that he has raised the dead is simply lying.
You are talking about present day miracles. And you already said that the are only claims. So why bother?
Your comments are simply anecdotal in nature and as such I will not reply.
"Why bother"?
To expose the nakedness of the Pentecostal/Charismatic Emperor.
To give strength those caught in its grip.
To give warning to those enticed by its seductive theology.
To allow truth and sanity rule over ignorance and foolishness.
Is that enough?
Why did you post the thread in the first place?
I gave you benefit of any doubt that you had an honest motive posting this.
Are you some atheist who is requesting a double blind non-placebo study by another atheist to prove your hypothesis that God does not exist?
Publicly claiming that you by the power of the Holy Spirit have raised the dead to life is "simply lying"?
As Christian are we to simply ignore this blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?
Are we to be silent as the Gospel of Jesus Christ is twisted by those who claim authority by their "God given gifts"?
I most certainly believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I believe that Jesus, the son of Mary is His only begotten Son and that He died and was raised again in physical form. I believe He will come again. But that does not change the fact that your comments are anecdotal and as such I will not respond to them.
It sounds like you believe in a different god, one who is not worthy of the praise due to him.
If he doesn't do that which we can not, then he is not the same as the God of Abraham.
I've not seen men do miracles, but God certainly has. Why even pray if we can do all things?
Why ask God to do that which only He is capable of doing, IF He no longer participates in the affairs of men?
I believe in a different god because I will not respond to your anecdotal comments???
'Believers shall lay hands on the sick and they will recover' Mk 16:18. Of course there are verifiable modern day miracles. Look up Charles and Frances Hunter's ministry. Dodie Osteen had a tumor the size of an orange on her liver and was given a few wks to live in Dec 1981. She & husband believed God's promises and she is now 90. Ken Hagin was diagnosed w/three fatal diseases. He stood on Mk 11:23-24 and was healed regardless of the bad report from the Dr's. Yes, these are all documented or else we would have heard about fraud a long time ago from the unbelievers.
'Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father' Mk 16:18.
You can test their fruit. Many of the so-called miracle workers end up being exposed in other areas, such as sexual immorality or financial crimes. If someone is being dishonest and deceptive in other areas, it's a pretty safe bet they're being deceptive about their ability to perform miracles.
Take William Branham as an example; he has been exposed as a fraud many times over in almost everything he said. Many others from the late 19th and early 20th centuries have also been exposed as frauds. Many of today's "miracle workers" hold these men and women up as examples to emulate. If someone holds up the likes of John G. Lake, Smith Wigglesworth, William Branham or Katherine Kuhlman as great healers or prophets, don't walk, run.
A tree is identified by it's fruit and God knows all and if in you, you will too, yet if you fighting those you see as not true, then it might be you in the way still
Be wise as a serpent, remain harmless as a dove. Once aware, it is not easy to remain harmless, but by continued trust to God Father in risen Son for me at least
Matt 10:16-20, Luke 21:14-15, watch out for Being a pharisee in Luke 18:9-14
There was definitely some fakes when the Pentecostal revival started. However, John G Lake wasn't one of them.
When searching for preachers on the internet, you will find haters by the dozens, particularily those who are legalists, stating that their works are impossible because it can't happen.
I would agree Smith Wigglesworth is questionable, but not Lake. He went to Africa when at that time in history there was no lucrative purpose for doing so. Fakers are always after the money. I would suggest you do some REAL research before judging true men of faith.
I see to put no trust in self or anyone else of flesh and blood at all, take all to God in prayer the Father of the risen Son, Jesus for us to get truth over error
Authorized (King James) Version
Phil 3:1-4
Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh. Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
