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[Valour-dare]

I'm always intrigued how, "No one ones the day or the hour (except the Father)" -- Matthew 24:36 -- ALWAYS seems to get turned into, "God has given ME special insight into being able to predict when the day and hour/end times is going to be."

I always wonder... how close is this to the edge of soothsaying or fortune telling -- which is clearly forbidden in the Bible?

Now I surely believe in prophets and after all, God gave Noah special insight into the end of the world at the time (the flood,) but I've never ran into any modern person whose predictions were 100% accurate. In each case, things had to be twisted like a pretzel in order to meet their predictions rather than an obvious observation to anyone that their "prophecy" had come true. I personally believe that if a prophecy comes true, it will be so obvious that an unbeliever could understand it.

I was once part of a church that was heavily into prophesy and words of knowledge -- which I certainly do believe exists.

But what I also observed is that far too many people seem to become drunk on the power/high it seems to give them to have "special knowledge" from God. Everyone else was pitied because they just weren't as "advanced," "close to God," or "didn't have as much faith" as they did. I fell victim to this too when the church was encouraging me to my "own" "prophetic skills."

When I took a good hard look at the Old Testament and was reminded the the consequences for giving false prophecies was DEATH, I became much, much more reserved in ever trying to claim "God told me" something about anything.

Do I think God speaks to me? Absolutely. But now I just make sure I leave a very wide open gate for my own human error if ever trying to convey that to someone else.

Lol but you are all misunderstanding this isn't my direct personal revelation though my personal direct revelation does tie into it and answered a question which must have been a subconscious prayer at the time. It took about 11 years to receive that answer and when I did my whole understanding of everything I had previously known was eclisped largely.

Now if I had to show you and show you the all the events unfolding it would lead you to the answer to the question I asked. Do you think I enjoy alluding to something that I cannot say directly due to sensitivity potentially here?

I am not trying to be better than anyone. I have emphasised over and over again that it is because of His grace I know otherwise I would been totally oblivious and had everything topsy turvy still.

Would you and others here prefer I lie? The truth is I will follow my convictions as you follow yours.

 

[seoulsearch]

Would you and others here prefer I lie? The truth is I will follow my convictions as you follow yours.

Which is exactly what I'm doing as well -- with my own convictions.

Which brings up another interesting point of when different people's convictions conflict/actively go against one another's, but that's another fish to fry in much bigger pan.

 

[Valour-dare]

My wife and I built our relationship over live chat during the pandemic. As the saying goes, hard times make strong men (people)....

Thank you for sharing it is as I said what I hope for… I hope to find someone because it has been an inner desire for a long time and if it was possible for my perspective to be understood and my situation then perhaps my post title would make sense.

 

[Valour-dare]

Which is exactly what I'm doing as well -- with my own convictions.

Which brings up another interesting point of when different people's convictions conflict/actively go against one another's, but that's another fish to fry in much bigger pan.

Lol just remember my intention in this post was not to go off topic like we have. I was just explaining myself.

I don't wish to interfere in anyone's convictions. Unfortunately what I know does but it is not for me to do anything about. Just as the same I can't warn most people around me including members of my own family.

I am forced to largely stand and watch. Preparing, dealing and living as best I can. So I will work with the infantesimally tiny amount of those who know and then rest well again there is nothing I can do about that.

 

[Snackersmom]

I wish that I could show that this isn't just rumors.. (though the rumors are there because they are created to push the agenda along) I am not referring to something I distantly know of but something I have personally experienced and am continue too. My life changed in 2020 forever as is tied to the unfolding these events that I am alluding to that are continuing to unfold even now... Like pieces of puzzle falling into place... Or like watching a domino effect... such has it been and continues to be for me...

I will share this Russia is a key factor in this sequence of events and if you are watching what is going on in Ukraine you might have a clearer picture in part of my stance on things...

I understand well. I am a witness and what I am pointing to for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear...

Thank you for welcoming me. I am resting in His grace it is all that sustains me and is my sole purpose in life.

No, I'm aware it's not just rumors, I've seen storm clouds gathering for a while. I know that Russia is a huge factor and I have been watching them. Same with China. I'm actually better prepared than most to deal with hard times. I won't go into detail about the particulars, but please know that I have no illusion of safety or protection from hardship in this world. But even the most carefully-laid plans for provision are useless if they are not directed by God. And sometimes we are called to trials, Jesus even promised that but He also promised He'd be with us every step of the way. I doubt I would "flee" even if I saw trouble imminent, I'd rather go out in the first wave or be around to help those who couldn't help themselves. Of course nobody really knows how they will respond in times like that, I'm just saying that I have fairly extensive practical knowledge and no children to protect so I might as well hang around and be useful. I just don't care to know the exact "when" because it would stress me out, just as it is stressing you out. God tells me what I need to know when I need to know it

Anyways..... you are correct that we have derailed your thread, and I apologize for that! I know some of the words here have been a bit harsh, I'm sorry for that but I hope you will take them as iron sharpening iron and maybe adjust your approach.... because you do across as a bit presumptuous as far as what we may or may not "know" .

All the best, please feel free to join in the discussions and maybe laugh and fellowship a bit if you can!

 

[Valour-dare]

No, I'm aware it's not just rumors, I've seen storm clouds gathering for a while. I know that Russia is a huge factor and I have been watching them. Same with China. I'm actually better prepared than most to deal with hard times. I won't go into detail about the particulars, but please know that I have no illusion of safety or protection from hardship in this world. But even the most carefully-laid plans for provision are useless if they are not directed by God. And sometimes we are called to trials, Jesus even promised that but He also promised He'd be with us every step of the way. I doubt I would "flee" even if I saw trouble imminent, I'd rather go out in the first wave or be around to help those who couldn't help themselves. Of course nobody really knows how they will respond in times like that, I'm just saying that I have fairly extensive practical knowledge and no children to protect so I might as well hang around and be useful. I just don't care to know the exact "when" because it would stress me out, just as it is stressing you out. God tells me what I need to know when I need to know it

Anyways..... you are correct that we have derailed your thread, and I apologize for that! I know some of the words here have been a bit harsh, I'm sorry for that but I hope you will take them as iron sharpening iron and maybe adjust your approach.... because you do across as a bit presumptuous as far as what we may or may not "know" .

All the best, please feel free to join in the discussions and maybe laugh and fellowship a bit if you can!

Thank you for taking the time to share.

Russia is the key figure I don't think many people realise that there are two factions that have been created just like in WW1. NATO and BRICS and that this is a war to end the west as we know it.

Just to clarify it isn't stressing me out since 2020 it has felt like things for me have paused. I desire to see what it is like once the purpose of refining has been achieved.

I haven't taken offence I am used to being "misunderstood"

I wish you to know that although I know the seriousness of the present situation unfolding I still laugh I still enjoy what I can and treasure the few friends I have.

Thank you for your sentiments and yes I shall more than likely engage on much lighter topics.

 

[Lynx]

You are misunderstanding me and lol it isn't my great revelation. I only have been given grace to know.

There is a reason why I say what I do and unlike you more than likely I know what real real savagery is. So there is no way I equate such an association here.

However the reality is that it seems you have no idea what I am talking about my advice is go look at what is happening between NATO and Russia. Also know this when Russia invades Europe that will be the sign for those in the USA to flee quickly. As having an ocean between the USA and Europe is a false illusion of protection.

Problem is, all the doomsayers before you disagree with you. Actually they disagree with each other. So which one do we believe?

If we believe all of them, we have already had 957 apocalypses and we are due for another 4,8 91 apocalypses before we even get to 2050.

If we are supposed to believe your apocalypse instead of theirs, what makes yours more special than all of theirs?

 

[Valour-dare]

Problem is, all the doomsayers before you disagree with you. Actually they disagree with each other. So which one do we believe?

If we believe all of them, we have already had 957 apocalypses and we are due for another 4,8 91 apocalypses before we even get to 2050.

If we are supposed to believe your apocalypse instead of theirs, what makes yours more special than all of theirs?

Again I am not special it is His grace nothing more... even if I send you proof to show the progression since 2020 the question remains will you believe it? So maybe it is better to tell you to watch when trump pulls the USA out of the war they created. Watch if you hear more of South Africa. Watch if you see the prices of wheat and sugar continue to rise and the commodity prices... That is all I can say.

 

[Lynx]

Again I am not special it is His grace nothing more... even if I send you proof to show the progression since 2020 the question remains will you believe it? So maybe it is better to tell you to watch when trump pulls the USA out of the war they created. Watch if you hear more of South Africa. Watch if you see the prices of wheat and sugar continue to rise and the commodity prices... That is all I can say.

Yes, that is what every other doomsayer before you has said. Just watch these specific indicators I have mentioned. You'll see I was right!

 

[Valour-dare]

Yes, that is what every other doomsayer before you has said. Just watch these specific indicators I have mentioned. You'll see I was right!

It isn't about being right... Not for me... nor is this mine lol I just know about it but not that I believe it will be any good but I may post a link... I will see but as I said even if you see some of the progression (as this started specifically in 2020) will you accept it... now that of course is the question...

 

[seoulsearch]

Again I am not special it is His grace nothing more... even if I send you proof to show the progression since 2020 the question remains will you believe it? So maybe it is better to tell you to watch when trump pulls the USA out of the war they created. Watch if you hear more of South Africa. Watch if you see the prices of wheat and sugar continue to rise and the commodity prices... That is all I can say.

Forgive me again if I just sound naive, but really, what person in their right mind WOULDN'T expect wheat, sugar, and commodity prices to increase?

With the economy having been what it is, and world conflicts arising everyday (as has always been), why would anyone expect commodity prices to DECREASE? I try to keep up with a lot of economic and market news, and I doubt there's a single person in that community that DOESN'T expect such prices to increase. Not to mention the farming community, as I am currently working for a group of professional farmers who would scoff at the idea of prices/costs NOT increasing.

In other words, how can something that is going to be an inevitable progression be seen as a definitive sign of proof of the end of the things of which you have special knowledge?

It's like saying, "If it continues to rain in the future, that's a sign that everything I'm telling you is true."

Like I said, I might be a bit behind, but I truly don't get how rising prices could be seen as proof that "Everything I'm telling you is coming to pass."

 

[Lynx]

Shhh! We're not supposed to think about that part.

 

[seoulsearch]

Again I am not special it is His grace nothing more... even if I send you proof to show the progression since 2020 the question remains will you believe it? So maybe it is better to tell you to watch when trump pulls the USA out of the war they created. Watch if you hear more of South Africa. Watch if you see the prices of wheat and sugar continue to rise and the commodity prices... That is all I can say.

Forgive me again if I just sound naive, but really, what person in their right mind WOULDN'T expect wheat, sugar, and commodity prices to increase?

With the economy having been what it is, and world conflicts arising everyday (as has always been), why would anyone expect commodity prices to DECREASE? I try to keep up with a lot of economic and market news, and I doubt there's a single person in that community that DOESN'T expect such prices to increase. Not to mention the farming community, as I am currently working for a group of professional farmers who would scoff at the idea of prices/costs NOT increasing.

In other words, how can something that is going to be an inevitable progression be seen as a definitive sign of proof of the end of the things of which you have special knowledge?

It's like saying, "If it continues to rain in the future, that's a sign that everything I'm telling you is true."

Like I said, I might be a bit behind, but I truly don't get how rising prices could be seen as proof that "Everything I'm telling you is coming to pass."

The only reason I'm even bringing this up is because if everyone else can see that this is just what's going to happen (sugar and wheat prices going up,) what is it about this that you are able to single out and see it as evidence for your beliefs?

I'm not just being sarcastic.

I'm truly curious as to how you came to this conclusion, because I'd like to know more aobut how people who make similar claims are able to take generic occurrences and claim them as solid evidence for prophetic claims.

 

[seoulsearch]

Shhh! We're not supposed to think about that part.

It's truly baffling to me because it seems he's trying to say, "If prices DON'T go down, it means everything I'm telling you is true and you should have believed."

Wait a minute. What?!

I don't think any person anywhere on this earth is expecting the prices of basic supplies to go down in any significant way, and even if they did, it surely wouldn't be for very long.

What stops anyone from "having special revelation" about EVERYTHING when it's all proven by inevitable events?!

 

[tourist]

However the reality is that it seems you have no idea what I am talking about my advice is go look at what is happening between NATO and Russia. Also know this when Russia invades Europe that will be the sign for those in the USA to flee quickly. .

Flee quickly where? Right now, due to the current political climate, there are many that are fleeing to the USA.

 

[Lynx]

Canada, perhaps?

The Philippines seems nice.

 

[Valour-dare]

It's truly baffling to me because it seems he's trying to say, "If prices DON'T go down, it means everything I'm telling you is true and you should have believed."

Wait a minute. What?!

I don't think any person anywhere on this earth is expecting the prices of basic supplies to go down in any significant way, and even if they did, it surely wouldn't be for very long.

What stops anyone from "having special revelation" about EVERYTHING when it's all proven by inevitable events?!

Lol this particular aspect about wheat and sugar prices going up was given in Apirl 2021 at the time such things weren't there was no invasion by Russia into Ukraine. Thus everything was still down in price. Especially wheat and sugar.

The point is that wheat and sugar are going to escalate beyond the ability for people to cope so I sound probably have said increasing exponentially.

Anyway it's late my side of the world as said before everyone is free to believe what they want and as such are responsible for the outcomes.

Goodnight.

 

[RodB651]

I'm always intrigued how, "No one ones the day or the hour (except the Father)" -- Matthew 24:36 -- ALWAYS seems to get turned into, "God has given ME special insight into being able to predict when the day and hour/end times is going to be."

Oh have mercy!!
Lol ..

We desperately need a face palm reaction!!!

 

[RodB651]

Geez...

I better get a date this weekend before the poo hits the rotary oscillator!

 

[Lynx]

Lol this particular aspect about wheat and sugar prices going up was given in Apirl 2021 at the time such things weren't there was no invasion by Russia into Ukraine. Thus everything was still down in price. Especially wheat and sugar.

The point is that wheat and sugar are going to escalate beyond the ability for people to cope so I sound probably have said increasing exponentially.

Anyway it's late my side of the world as said before everyone is free to believe what they want and as such are responsible for the outcomes.

Goodnight.

Wait, whoa, hold on there! You never did tell us where we are supposed to flee to!