Tonight's Presidential Debate

[HeIsHere]

I do. I thought you were a purveyor of truth.

The simple fact is you don't know what the motivation was for the individual in the picture for doing what she did. Yet you have no problem ascribing your reasoning to her.

I will admit I have no interest.

I see absolutely no good motivation or reason for this image, he is a man and a poor leader, only slightly better than his opponents, beholden to the same ruling class.

Hard for me to be excited about a country steeped in the mythology of its own greatness when it has caused so much damage all over the world for the past 60 years or so.

 

[Tamarisk]

"...other IMMIGRANTS that make up our country..." Seriously? Earlier immigrants came in LEGALLY, but there Haitians came in ILLEGALLY. So why are you lying right off the bat? Comparing lawful citizens with foreign illegal invaders?

As to the focus on Haitians there are a number of reasons:

(1) their numbers in Springfield are almost equal to the previous population of lawful citizens (whether immigrants or not). That has overwhelmed the systems. And who is paying for their free ride?;

(2) there is now overwhelming evidence, even from police (and contrary to the Lying Leftist media) that they have been illegally catching cats, dogs, pigs, ducks, and geese and eating them with impunity (knowing that they will not be deported or prosecuted);

3) other Haitians and Jamaicans have confirmed that that these Haitians not only consider cat meat a delicacy, but use it for voodoo rituals. These people are also cannibals, and pretty soon they could start killing people and eating them;

(4) they have been unlawfully issued with driver's licenses when they cannot even read the road and street signs. As a result they have caused car crashes and property damage. They killed an 11 year old boy and caused the injury of many kids because of reckless driving. They have also been molesting people;

(5) Landlords in Springfield are illegally evicting law-abiding tenants and replacing them with Haitians (no doubt getting paid off huge sums for this criminality)

Are all these reasons good enough for you?

What I meant is the citizens of this country are descendants of immigrants who came here for a better life just like the Haitians in Springfield Ohio. They are no different than our forefathers were.

Most of the Haitians in Springfield are there legally.

For the sake of discussion let's say all the reasons you listed above are true. Does it really warrant violating the constitutional rights of the Haitians that are legal and illegal?

Because illegals have constitutional rights and if Trump deports both Legal and illegal immigrants without a fair hearing he will be violating the constitution. At that point everyone one who took a oath to uphold the constitution against all enemy's foreign and domestic will have a duty to uphold it against Donald Trump who will be a domestic enemy at that point.

 

[Cameron143]

I will admit I have no interest.

I see absolutely no good motivation or reason for this image, he is a man and a poor leader, only slightly better than his opponents, beholden to the same ruling class.

Hard for me to be excited about a country steeped in the mythology of its own greatness when it has caused so much damage all over the world for the past 60 years or so.

If he was part of the cabal, why are they trying so hard to get rid of him?
America certainly has its share of sins to atone for, but Trump isn't one of them.

 

[cv5]

I will admit I have no interest.

I see absolutely no good motivation or reason for this image, he is a man and a poor leader, only slightly better than his opponents, beholden to the same ruling class.

Hard for me to be excited about a country steeped in the mythology of its own greatness when it has caused so much damage all over the world for the past 60 years or so.

The United States was a wonderful country. Unfortunately it's well past its best before date.

Won't be long now. Once the US Dollar fails, so does its military.
Back of the napkin math says maybe three to five years tops.
When the standard of living plummets, then the trouble begins in earnest.

Of course to think tanks and Governments know this. And believe me they're setting the stage accordingly.

 

[cv5]

Most of the Haitians in Springfield are there legally.

They there to serve a certain purpose. According to the machinations of the present administration. That much is true.

Your problem/failing is your lack of imagination and foresight.

Bad times are coming buddy. Very very grim times indeed.
And what you see in Springfield is part of the program set forth with that in mind IMO.

Poor Americans how I pity them. Most are dumb as a bag of hammers.

 

[HeIsHere]

If he was part of the cabal, why are they trying so hard to get rid of him?
America certainly has its share of sins to atone for, but Trump isn't one of them.

Are they really?

When they wanted to get rid of Kennedy(s) they succeeded, twice.

Why get rid of him when he can be used to create division, his narcissism is the perfect tool, he may not be a part of the political class or the power elite, but he is being used accordingly and when he is asked to do their bidding he will because he has no real depth of understanding or he thinks he can beat them at their game, I really do not know.

 

[Magenta]

It's still unclear if pets were eaten or not. It's looking more and more like some have been.

My first bunny rabbit ended up in an in-law's stew pot .

 

[HeIsHere]

The United States was a wonderful country. Unfortunately it's well past its best before date.

Won't be long now. Once the US Dollar fails, so does its military.
Back of the napkin math says maybe three to five years tops.
When the standard of living plummets, then the trouble begins in earnest.

Of course to think tanks and Governments know this. And believe me they're setting the stage accordingly.

Yes it was once a great country.
I am thinking the same on the time line, sigh.

 

[Tamarisk]

They there to serve a certain purpose. According to the machinations of the present administration. That much is true.

Your problem/failing is your lack of imagination and foresight.

Bad times are coming buddy. Very very grim times indeed.
And what you see in Springfield is part of the program set forth with that in mind IMO.

Poor Americans how I pity them. Most are dumb as a bag of hammers.

In other words my problem is that I'm not afraid of what MIGHT happen.

Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. - John 14:27

 

[Cameron143]

Are they really?

When they wanted to get rid of Kennedy(s) they succeeded, twice.

Why get rid of him when he can be used to create division, his narcissism is the perfect tool, he may not be a part of the political class or the power elite, but he is being used accordingly and when he is asked to do their bidding he will because he has no real depth of understanding or he thinks he can beat them at their game, I really do not know.

It's alot harder to find a good patsy these days. But if Trump were part of the plan, he would be protected. You never saw a Bush put on trial or shot at. Clinton's are a mess but amazingly protected. Obama is still in DC. Wonder if he's connected. Biden is a crook, but nary a charge coming. But Reagan was shot. Trump was shot. Go figure.

 

[Tamarisk]

The United States was a wonderful country. Unfortunately it's well past its best before date.

Won't be long now. Once the US Dollar fails, so does its military.
Back of the napkin math says maybe three to five years tops.
When the standard of living plummets, then the trouble begins in earnest.

Of course to think tanks and Governments know this. And believe me they're setting the stage accordingly.

Our country is a wonderful country. That's why people from other countries are coming here.

Do not be afraid of what could happen.

God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way, though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble at its swelling. - Psalm 46:1-3

 

[Cameron143]

My first bunny rabbit ended up in an in-law's stew pot .

Peticide gone wild. Sorry about Bugs.

 

[cv5]

Are they really?

When they wanted to get rid of Kennedy(s) they succeeded, twice.

Why get rid of him when he can be used to create division, his narcissism is the perfect tool, he may not be a part of the political class or the power elite, but he is being used accordingly and when he is asked to do their bidding he will because he has no real depth of understanding or he thinks he can beat them at their game, I really do not know.

The essential question is:
What form of government will prevail AFTER the inevitable collapse.

Kammy's puppeteers want Marxism/communism that much is clear.
Walz is a flaming Marxist too so thats why that odious nutter was tapped.

Trump on the other hand REPUDIATED the socialist zealots while in office.
And pumped as many conservatives into the nooks and crannies of government as he could. Every speech is anti collectivism anti-socialism.

Oh.....and they tried REALLY REALY HARD to do the Soviet show trial routine on him and throw him in the slammer. And then tried to give him the JFK treatment.

Having said that, the rule of thumb is: always vote for the almost jailed almost assassinated guy. He has all the right enemies.

Is Trump going to step in some toes while in office? Who knows. I do know that Lincoln tossed the Supreme Court judge into the slammer and he is a hero.

But if Trumps wins, swift decisive action must be taken to clean out the executive branch lest the long knives come out. People like Wray and Garland and Mayorkas must be dismissed. Too many scandals and miscarriages of justice.

 

[Nehemiah6]

People like Wray and Garland and Mayorkas must be dismissed

Or executed. Which will be even better.

 

[cv5]

Our country is a wonderful country. That's why people from other countries are coming here.

Do not be afraid of what could happen.

God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way, though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble at its swelling. - Psalm 46:1-3

Thanks I appreciate the sentiment. But don't be used and abused as a useful idiot, which is absudly common in these kinds of predicaments. The political mafia running the show are evil beyond measure, far beyond your ability to comprehend, and they will use you and toss you onto the rubbish heap like garbage. They just murdered at least 500,000 Ukrainians and 100,000 Russians in yet another unnecessary war. They are in the dead people business.....its all a joke.

And consider: inevitably physics (food and energy) and math (hyperinflation and default) will overwhelm these lofty platitudes, pleadings and pontificating. And then all hell breaks loose.

Head on a swivel. And trust none of these actors on the set. Including Trump.

 

[Tamarisk]

Or executed. Which will be even better.

This sounds like The Great Terror of 1937, comrade.

https://www.history.com/topics/european-history/great-purge

 

[cv5]

In other words my problem is that I'm not afraid of what MIGHT happen.

Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your hearts be troubled, neither let them be afraid. - John 14:27

Might happen? Trump almost got assassinated. Fentanyl is killing untold numbers of citizens. Cities are dangerous hellholes. The USA is literally bankrupt.

Its happening.....right now. Open your window and take a look.

 

[Tamarisk]

Thanks I appreciate the sentiment. But don't be used and abused as a useful idiot, which is absudly common in these kinds of predicaments. The political mafia running the show are evil beyond measure, far beyond your ability to comprehend, and they will use you and toss you onto the rubbish heap like garbage. They just murdered at least 500,000 Ukrainians and 100,000 Russians in yet another unnecessary war. They are in the dead people business.....its all a joke.

And consider: inevitably physics (food and energy) and math (hyperinflation and default) will overwhelm these lofty platitudes, pleadings and pontificating. And then all hell breaks loose.

Head on a swivel. And trust none of these actors on the set. Including Trump.

Assuming everything you said is True then why must

Thanks I appreciate the sentiment. But don't be used and abused as a useful idiot, which is absudly common in these kinds of predicaments. The political mafia running the show are evil beyond measure, far beyond your ability to comprehend, and they will use you and toss you onto the rubbish heap like garbage. They just murdered at least 500,000 Ukrainians and 100,000 Russians in yet another unnecessary war. They are in the dead people business.....its all a joke.

And consider: inevitably physics (food and energy) and math (hyperinflation and default) will overwhelm these lofty platitudes, pleadings and pontificating. And then all hell breaks loose.

Head on a swivel. And trust none of these actors on the set. Including Trump.

So the answer is jailing or exciting political enemy's? Don't you see this philosophy is right out of Soviet Russia?

 

[Tamarisk]

Might happen? Trump almost got assassinated. Fentanyl is killing untold numbers of citizens. Cities are dangerous hellholes. The USA is literally bankrupt.

Its happening.....right now. Open your window and take a look.

Those people who chose to use fentanyl are the only ones responsible for their own death. Don't try to shift the blame to fentanyl itself. People need to except responsibility for their actions alone.

I believe all drugs including heroin need to be legal,regulated and readily available, ending the black market. And The data shows that countries that have these laws have less overdoses and addiction in general.

If heroin was readily available addicts would not use fentanyl. They only use it because of the scarcity of heroin. They generally don't like it as much.

Yes some are dangerous and some are not that dangerous.

Yes this country is bankrupt but don't shift the blame to one party. The blame rest solely on the shoulders of corporations and corporate politicians.

Politicians are not our hope however we need to do whatever we can to protect ourselves from Trump even if it means electing Harris who is a corporate politician. But make no mistake about it Trump is also a corporate politician the difference is is that he tried to steal an election, has been campaigning on being a dictator and arresting political enemy's.

How can you love your country if you're willing to support someone like Trump, who didn't allow for the peaceful transition of power, for the first time since the civil war?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Those people who chose to use fentanyl are the only ones responsible for their own death. Don't try to shift the blame to fentanyl itself. People need to except responsibility for their actions alone.

I believe all drugs including heroin need to be legal,regulated and readily available, ending the black market. And The data shows that countries that have these laws have less overdoses and addiction in general.

If heroin was readily available addicts would not use fentanyl. They only use it because of the scarcity of heroin. They generally don't like it as much.

Yes some are dangerous and some are not that dangerous.

Yes this country is bankrupt but don't shift the blame to one party. The blame rest solely on the shoulders of corporations and corporate politicians.

Politicians are not our hope however we need to do whatever we can to protect ourselves from Trump even if it means electing Harris who is a corporate politician. But make no mistake about it Trump is also a corporate politician the difference is is that he tried to steal an election, has been campaigning on being a dictator and arresting political enemy's.

How can you love your country if you're willing to support someone like Trump, who didn't allow for the peaceful transition of power, for the first time since the civil war?

In America, the biggest drug pushers are the MDs. They literally have a license to kill granted to them by the state. They killed/ murder more than any drug gang or street sellers.

There's a lot who smoke pot as the gateway drug to illegal stuff and parents prescriptions. Guess who owns the marijuana dispensaries in my state?
The same former CEO of the worlds biggest generic dope dealer/ pharmaceutical company, Milan Pharmaceuticals. She was charged with crimes having to do with the company and decided to transfer the wealth to continue pushing drugs.