Tonight's Presidential Debate

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ZNP

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Haitian migrants have run Springfield, Ohio into the ground

 

ZNP

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You are the only racist here. Everyone else is upset over the consequences of illegal immigration or the effects of legal immigration that places too many people into small communities. You are the only one who has brought in race.
Well Jaybird has shown us who he is, he is simply the mouthpiece for Maxine Waters:

 

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Well Jaybird has shown us who he is, he is simply the mouthpiece for Maxine Waters:

He's a troll. I call him t-roll...because that's how he rolls. I like Mockingjay as well.
 

ZNP

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He's a troll. I call him t-roll...because that's how he rolls. I like Mockingjay as well.
I think the comment at the debate was classic Trump, making statements that take over the media and give him all the press coverage whether good or bad. But in the midst of all the hullabaloo I like to know what the real situation is and that is the value he brings. Trump makes everyone head to Springfield to see for themselves.

Consider this, the parents of the child who was killed asked that their son not be used in political debate about immigration. That is fair, and no one has used their son's name. But there were 24 other kids who were also injured in that accident. They weren't killed but they have every right to speak about their experience and none of them have asked anyone to keep silent about them. In fact how would Trump have even heard about Springfield if someone hadn't asked him to help them out? It is a town of 50,000 that received 20,000 immigrants! Of course they don't have the resources to take on that many. That would be like NYC getting 4 million immigrants.

So then, what is the point of running for President if you are not going to help solve a crisis like this? Trump is helping by shining a light on it while Kamala was laughing about it! Why would you laugh about this if you are the "border Czar" responsible for this chaos?

But one thing I have learned, when they flood the zone with mocking and ridicule and trying to shame you into being quiet, well then that is when you know you are over the target. There is something there they are desperately trying to hide.
 

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You are the only racist here. Everyone else is upset over the consequences of illegal immigration or the effects of legal immigration that places too many people into small communities. You are the only one who has brought in race.
Absolutely correct. And @JayBird is a race-baiting disgrace.
The scumbag Democrats beat people over the head with that red herring. And then lay on the guilt trip.

Why? Power. Control the narrative. Deception. Just like a fraudulent preacher.
 

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He's a troll. I call him t-roll...because that's how he rolls. I like Mockingjay as well.
Ok I get it now. T-roll.

Yep....slithery hissing. And a lot of dodging bobbing and weaving around the REAL issues.

Which is missing migrant children and human trafficking cartels.
 

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Absolutely correct. And @JayBird is a race-baiting disgrace.
The scumbag Democrats beat people over the head with that red herring. And then lay on the guilt trip.

Why? Power. Control the narrative. Deception. Just like a fraudulent preacher.
It's trolling 101.
 

ZNP

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Proverbs 15:2b the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness

All those memes, that was the mouth of fools pouring out foolishness.

6b in the revenues of the wicked is trouble.

If you look at the situation in Springfield you can see much trouble, but also a hint that there is revenue as well. That would explain why some are saying "nothing to see here". But you talk to the residents and they have been kicked out of their apartments they were renting, the landlords then filled the apartments with cots and charged the immigrants per cot. Someone is making money off of these 20,000 immigrants but it is causing a whole lot of trouble, so we know whatever it is, it is the revenue of the wicked. That is why we need to look more closely.

7 The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so.

Why do you think that some are trying to keep us from talking about this or examining this. How absurd to claim this is racism to want to know what is happening to a city of 50,000 with 20,000 immigrants. Why are they trying to hide this from us?

18 A wrathful man stirreth up strife: We have seen this as well. Race baiting, insults, accusing us of not loving others, etc. If you step back it is easy to see that some of these posts are designed to stir up strife, just like some of Maxine Waters comments.

27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.

This is where all the corruption in Washington DC and with the various politicians results in, troubling the US.

28b but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.

This is similar to the earlier verse, the mouth of the foolish pours out foolishness. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. This is a Christian site, are people's posts filled with the word of God, and praise to the Lord Jesus Christ? Or is it filled with hate and darkness and self righteousness and self exaltation?
 

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Well Jaybird has shown us who he is, he is simply the mouthpiece for Maxine Waters:

"they have been exploited"

But she forgot to say that it was the Clintonista cartel doing it.
 

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Haitian migrants have run Springfield, Ohio into the ground

Wow. @JayBird says no witnesses......but there they are. In the flesh.

And two or three eye witnesses clinches a case. Right?
 

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Springfield, Ohio, Haitian Crisis EXPOSED by Blaze Media Journalist

The citizens are going to REMOVE the entire city commission.
Looks like citizens still have rights. Good job.
 
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Trump lost the first debate so should Trump do a second debate?
Should he do another one? Yes, of course; the American people deserve to hear from the candidates. But with Trump it's all about him; the people don't count for much.

According to him, he won the debate, lol. He's saying since he won there's no need to do another one. Harris wants another one; I suspect the Donald will keep milking the "I won" angle as long as he can. If his polling gets to the point where he has nothing to lose, he might do another one. That's my guess anyway.
 

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While looking into what is going on in Springfield I learned that not all have an issue with the 20,000 immigrants. Dole packing plant refused to comment but they hire quite a few of the immigrants. Another factory owner did comment. He said that 10% of his employees are the immigrants and that they work very hard, they don't have a drug problem, and if he could hire more he would. Also the landlords of apartment buildings were not talking either but apparently they are now making more money. They turned their apartments into dormitories and charge by the bed rather than the apartment and so make considerably more while at the same time it is considerably cheaper for the immigrants to live and work. Instead of two or three in an apartment they can have as many as twenty, which of course violates fire codes and strains the resources, but does make the landlord more money. This can also explain why the city council and Mayor have supported this.

I think in some respects this is very good. My main concern is that the immigrants are not being treated abusively. All OSHA regulations and other laws about minimum wage should be observed. I also think the citizens of the town need to have their concerns about safety respected, particularly about people who are driving without a license and without insurance.

Of course this does raise another issue about drug use in this country and of course that also is related to the border crisis, but I don't think we need to blame workers at these factories for that. So the issues are related only because they both are a result of how security at the border is being handled.

As usual the truth lies somewhere between the two extremes. Although it is true that in a very few, apparently isolated cases, some people may be killing pets, that is hardly the main concern of everyone. The real concern is being replaced by immigrants. Some complain they cannot get a job, some complain that they cannot get a place to live, and almost everyone is complaining about how dangerous the streets are with people who don't have a license to drive, don't speak english and don't have insurance. In addition there is a very big strain on the government resources which impacts everyone.
 

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Should he do another one? Yes, of course; the American people deserve to hear from the candidates. But with Trump it's all about him; the people don't count for much.

According to him, he won the debate, lol. He's saying since he won there's no need to do another one. Harris wants another one; I suspect the Donald will keep milking the "I won" angle as long as he can. If his polling gets to the point where he has nothing to lose, he might do another one. That's my guess anyway.
ROFL

(1) Greg Price on X: "Oh my goodness this is an absolute train wreck. Reporter: What are your specific plans to bring down prices? Kamala: "I grew up a middle class kid... I grew up in a neighborhood of folks who were very proud of their lawn. Ya know?" https://t.co/lhOdWoygy2" / X

(1) Quaran-Tina on X: "@NewYorkTheater Also. CSpan held a poll, 200,000 responded, and Trump won the debate with 75% of the vote was the result. You are pathetic. https://t.co/pxExN5Q0JH" / X

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cv5

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While looking into what is going on in Springfield I learned that not all have an issue with the 20,000 immigrants. Dole packing plant refused to comment but they hire quite a few of the immigrants. Another factory owner did comment. He said that 10% of his employees are the immigrants and that they work very hard, they don't have a drug problem, and if he could hire more he would. Also the landlords of apartment buildings were not talking either but apparently they are now making more money. They turned their apartments into dormitories and charge by the bed rather than the apartment and so make considerably more while at the same time it is considerably cheaper for the immigrants to live and work. Instead of two or three in an apartment they can have as many as twenty, which of course violates fire codes and strains the resources, but does make the landlord more money. This can also explain why the city council and Mayor have supported this.

I think in some respects this is very good. My main concern is that the immigrants are not being treated abusively. All OSHA regulations and other laws about minimum wage should be observed. I also think the citizens of the town need to have their concerns about safety respected, particularly about people who are driving without a license and without insurance.

Of course this does raise another issue about drug use in this country and of course that also is related to the border crisis, but I don't think we need to blame workers at these factories for that. So the issues are related only because they both are a result of how security at the border is being handled.

As usual the truth lies somewhere between the two extremes. Although it is true that in a very few, apparently isolated cases, some people may be killing pets, that is hardly the main concern of everyone. The real concern is being replaced by immigrants. Some complain they cannot get a job, some complain that they cannot get a place to live, and almost everyone is complaining about how dangerous the streets are with people who don't have a license to drive, don't speak english and don't have insurance. In addition there is a very big strain on the government resources which impacts everyone.
"This can also explain why the city council and Mayor have supported this."
Yup. Its all about the Benjamins.

"My main concern is that the immigrants are not being treated abusively. All OSHA regulations and other laws about minimum wage should be observed." "Instead of two or three in an apartment they can have as many as twenty, which of course violates fire codes and strains the resources"
Quality of life, fundamental rights and safety mean nothing if you are slave labor. This (neo-slavery) is the Democrat calling card.

But the dire issue at hand is the tens of thousands of missing migrant children and human trafficking cartels.
Criminal intent by enablers and money laundering and even worse horrors are rampant and the underlying motive.

@JayBird ignores any and all threats to these migrants. But of course, if they are merely pawns and marks in a criminal enterprise,
these matters are not a factor.