Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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Eli1

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Trump wants to streamline, de-weaponize and downsize government to benefit citizens.
Kamalatov wants to bloat, weaponize and expand government to terrorize and imprison citizens.

Somebody tell me I'm wrong.
He told that flat out to the UN secretary general.
"Germany wants to use us to protect them from Russia while they do a gas deal and buy gas from Russia"
The establishment doesn't like this kinda talk.
 

cv5

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This plus the Congressional investigation into Merchans Dem activist family members is more than sufficient cause to toss this bogus witch hunt case into the dumpster.

@simonateba

BREAKING: Ahead of Donald Trump's sentencing on September 18, America First Legal has just now announced a lawsuit against Judge Juan Merchan and the Ethics Commission for the New York State Unified Court System, accusing them of illegally concealing Judge Merchan’s financial disclosures from 2018-2024. NOTE: Merchan is the New York judge who is scheduled to sentence Trump on September 18 following his conviction on May 30, 2024.
 

JayBird

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False. Matthew Colangelo assisted Bragg in the prosecution of Trump. He was a senior Biden Department of Justice official before leaving there to assist Bragg.
So as I said, no DoJ staff were involved in the prosecution, which was conducted by a NY State Prosecutor, held in a NY State court, and presided over by a NY State Judge.

Thus, the claim that the DoJ had been "weaponized against Trump" in this case is without basis.
 

JayBird

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So no one can say what the underlying charge was that made the counts felonies. Do you have proof showing a unanimous verdict on the underlying charge?
Of course you don't. No one does. So no one knows what the underlying fraud that was alleged, or whether it was unanimously agreed upon. This is one of but many reasons that the decision will be overturned.
I've already answered that several times. The underlying crime was violation of campaign finance laws, specifically falsifying financial records to hide campaign expenses.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

"The jurors said they unanimously agreed that Trump falsified business records to conceal a $130,000 hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels to influence the outcome of the 2016 election."

You lied about my actions. You claim I am supporting Trump in his immoral behavior based on the allegation of illicit behavior with a porn star. For this to be true, you would need to have evidence that an affair took place. @cv5 posted a sworn affidavit signed by Daniels that stated no affair took place. So show your proof or rescind the allegation, or you are a liar.
Trump committed 34 felonies and you've been trying to find excuses to wave it all away. Own it.
 

Susanna

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I've already answered that several times. The underlying crime was violation of campaign finance laws, specifically falsifying financial records to hide campaign expenses.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

"The jurors said they unanimously agreed that Trump falsified business records to conceal a $130,000 hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels to influence the outcome of the 2016 election."


Trump committed 34 felonies and you've been trying to find excuses to wave it all away. Own it.
Trump is a convict. Unfortunately too many people don’t understand the ramifications of what being a convict is.
 

cv5

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Trump committed 34 felonies and you've been trying to find excuses to wave it all away. Own it.
Go ahead. Keep making a fool of yourself. No skin off my nose.
 

cv5

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I can’t wait for you to tell us WHY what a defector says is significant.
Ooohhhh so you are waiting for me to do the thinking for you again are you?
Did you want me to feed you pablum and change your diaper too?
 

JayBird

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Trump is a convict. Unfortunately too many people don’t understand the ramifications of what being a convict is.
Or they don't care.

I'm old enough to remember when Jim Bakker was convicted and sent to prison for scamming people out of their money, and then after he was released he started right back up again and sure enough, there were gullible people lined up to send him their money.
 

Cameron143

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I've already answered that several times. The underlying crime was violation of campaign finance laws, specifically falsifying financial records to hide campaign expenses.

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/30/g-s1-1848/trump-hush-money-trial-34-counts

"The jurors said they unanimously agreed that Trump falsified business records to conceal a $130,000 hush money payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels to influence the outcome of the 2016 election."


Trump committed 34 felonies and you've been trying to find excuses to wave it all away. Own it.
Sorry. Not my day to feed the troll.
 

Susanna

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Ooohhhh so you are waiting for me to do the thinking for you again are you?
Did you want me to feed you pablum and change your diaper too?
But seriously, why was this particular defector so much of a witness for the truth?
 

JayBird

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Sorry. Not my day to feed the troll.
That's very disappointing, and supports exactly what I've been saying. You aren't interested in the facts of the case, and instead you were merely engaging in apologetics for Trump's crimes. And now that your effort has hit a brick wall, you childishly name call and run away.

You can do better.
 

tedincarolina

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That's very disappointing, and supports exactly what I've been saying. You aren't interested in the facts of the case, and instead you were merely engaging in apologetics for Trump's crimes. And now that your effort has hit a brick wall, you childishly name call and run away.

You can do better.
Hey @JayBird

That's one of the stains that will need some pretty serious scrubbing. This idea that calling people by silly names to identify while belittling them, is a mature way to carry on discussions. Especially in our media, the outlets that tend to lean into the GOP side seem to really be trying to make that a part of our national consciences. To belittle people by calling them silly names. Generally names of disdain made with wagging finger! "Marxist!! They cried. Kill the Marxist."

What happened to the Anti-Fascist name? Wasn't that good enough? I haven't heard the big guy using that turn of word much lately. "They're all Anti-fascists and want to destroy the country!!" Maybe it finally got through his slow mental abilities and he realized what I've always been saying, Americans as a rule are supposed to be 'anti' fascist. Just as the Antichrist is against the true Christ. He does not support Jesus. Somebody finally convinced him of that, is my guess.
 

JayBird

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That's one of the stains that will need some pretty serious scrubbing. This idea that calling people by silly names to identify while belittling them, is a mature way to carry on discussions. Especially in our media, the outlets that tend to lean into the GOP side seem to really be trying to make that a part of our national consciences. To belittle people by calling them silly names. Generally names of disdain made with wagging finger! "Marxist!! They cried. Kill the Marxist."
I expect a certain amount of childish and lazy name-calling and personal attacks when online, but I'd hoped for better in my interactions with other Christians.

But it seems that one of the aspects of Trump's character that they like and identify with is his childish name calling. And when you see it enough times, you can't help but conclude that that's just who they are.

What happened to the Anti-Fascist name? Wasn't that good enough? I haven't heard the big guy using that turn of word much lately. "They're all Anti-fascists and want to destroy the country!!" Maybe it finally got through his slow mental abilities and he realized what I've always been saying, Americans as a rule are supposed to be 'anti' fascist. Just as the Antichrist is against the true Christ. He does not support Jesus. Somebody finally convinced him of that, is my guess.
Probably because they found it wasn't resonating much with his base, so he dropped it. You're probably right too, that saying you're against anti-fascism isn't really a good look (makes ya look like you're pro fascism :LOL:).