Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

[tedincarolina]

Hey @Cameron143

Do you have some evidence, that's always the thing that MAGA seems to be short on all the time, that my account of the issue has been debunked?

 

[Cameron143]

Hi @Cameron143

Yeah, I know: Trump acknowledges he told Secret Service on Jan. 6 that he would 'like to go down' to the Capitol (nbcnews.com)

"This is crazy stuff," Trump said Wednesday. "I sat in the back, and you know what I did say? I said, 'I’d like to go down there because I see a lot of people walking down.' They said, 'Sir, it’s better if you don’t.' I said, 'Well, I’d like to. ... Whatever you guys think.'"

Vote wisely, my friend. Don't drink the Kool-Aide.

You must have gotten a lifetime supply of Kool-aid.

 

[Cameron143]

Hey @Cameron143

Do you have some evidence, that's always the thing that MAGA seems to be short on all the time, that my account of the issue has been debunked?

You gave the evidence. Your lefty looney friends had Trump doing jujitsu on an agent, steering with his feet from the back seat, all while never messing up his hair.

 

[Cameron143]

Hey @Cameron143

Do you have some evidence, that's always the thing that MAGA seems to be short on all the time, that my account of the issue has been debunked?

Proof of what?

 

[tedincarolina]

You gave the evidence. Your lefty looney friends had Trump doing jujitsu on an agent, steering with his feet from the back seat, all while never messing up his hair.

Hey @Cameron143

I'm sorry, but that's not at all what I claimed. I just said that he wanted to go down there but the SS wouldn't let him. That's exactly what his own personal testimony of the incident was. So I don't know what you've gotten stuck on, but it isn't my words.

Proof of what?

Proof of what you claimed. That my account had already been debunked. I mean, honestly, I copied for you his exact words in his own defense as the matter was being investigated. So I asked you to provide me some evidence that my claim that he wanted to go down there but the SS wouldn't let him, had been debunked. That is what you said about my post, right? I think I copied it using the reply feature so it should be your exact words and mine, also.

So, have you got anything, or are you just wanting to argue whether or not he did get into some physical altercation over it. That's not anything that I referenced in my post.

Vote wisely and work on your reading comprehension.

 

[tedincarolina]

You must have gotten a lifetime supply of Kool-aid.

Hi @Cameron143

Again, what in my post isn't an accurate description of what went on in the presidential limousine that day? It isn't Kool-Aide, if it's true. You do get that... right?

 

[Cameron143]

Hey @Cameron143

I'm sorry, but that's not at all what I claimed. I just said that he wanted to go down there but the SS wouldn't let him. That's exactly what his own personal testimony of the incident was. So I don't know what you've gotten stuck on, but it isn't my words.


Proof of what you claimed. That my account had already been debunked. I mean, honestly, I copied for you his exact words in his own defense as the matter was being investigated. So I asked you to provide me some evidence that my claim that he wanted to go down there but the SS wouldn't let him, had been debunked. That is what you said about my post, right? I think I copied it using the reply feature so it should be your exact words and mine, also.

So, have you got anything, or are you just wanting to argue whether or not he did get into some physical altercation over it. That's not anything that I referenced in my post.

Vote wisely and work on your reading comprehension.

Ok teddy bear, I'll work on my reading comprehension while we examine your honesty. You read what @Maggiefortruth wrote. You pointed out one error. What other errors did she make?

 

[tedincarolina]

Ok teddy bear, I'll work on my reading comprehension while we examine your honesty. You read what @Maggiefortruth wrote. You pointed out one error. What other errors did she make?

Hi @Cameron143

You probably think of yourself as best at the deprecating game. Sure, I'll give you that. I do appreciate that you use kinder kindergarten names to refer to people that you want to belittle. I think that was the only error. I mean, would have brought up others if I thought there were some? You really should engage that gearbox between your ears from time to time when you make your silly first grade deprecations.

God bless you friend, and vote wisely. Drop the belittling names which is a pretty sure sign of serious disrespect for others. Is that how you want to be treated? Or was that misread, too?

 

[Cameron143]

Hi @Cameron143

You probably think of yourself as best at the deprecating game. Sure, I'll give you that. I do appreciate that you use kinder kindergarten names to refer to people that you want to belittle. I think that was the only error. I mean, would have brought up others if I thought there were some? You really should engage that gearbox between your ears from time to time when you make your silly first grade deprecations.

God bless you friend, and vote wisely. Drop the belittling names which is a pretty sure sign of serious disrespect for others. Is that how you want to be treated? Or was that misread, too?

Whoa teddy bear. I thought you wanted to communicate this way. Your patronizing comments about voting wisely and work on my reading comprehension skills was meant for my good? How about the Kool-aid comment? You said that because you thought my Kool-aid smile would harm me in some way? The gearbox comment was meant to encourage me? You are the epitome of what love looks like? You couldn't even use biblical examples to help me?

Let me show you how easy it is. Jesus taught us to remove the beam from our own eye before attempting to remove the toothpick from another's eye. See how easy that was.

BTW...do you really think I'm the best at deprecating? I'm pretty sure you have a couple of trophies on your mantle. You might even have a couple for patronizing.

 

[Magenta]

I am kinda wondering what changes in the development of the baby after twenty four weeks for those who vote Republican?

A fetus is viable outside the womb at 24 weeks. That was the gestational age of my daughter when she was born.

 

[Nehemiah6]

That's who I want with running the nation. Someone who has no normal, civil respect for anyone.

And you are perfectly OK with the Biden/Harris duo calling more than half the country semi-Nazis, and putting innocents into a gulag, then issuing lengthy sentences for pranking? That's civil respect? How about all the bogus criminal charges against Trump (which have all failed)? That is "normal"? When Trump gives his opponents nicknames it is to emphasize who they are. Since you do not think Kamala is a Communist, it would seem you yourself are one.

 

[tedincarolina]

A fetus is viable outside the womb at 24 weeks. That was the gestational age of my daughter when she was born.

Yeah @Magenta my son was born at 32 weeks. But I'm just arguing the point being made that Democrats are somehow wanting people to have abortions even after they are born. And even at 24 or 32 weeks, if the baby births and is alive when birthed, it then becomes murder to kill that baby. That's the law in every state in the nation.

The Facts on the Born-Alive Debate - FactCheck.org

While I am personally against abortion, I do know that I live in a lost and dying world and that there is a great swell of people who want to make it legal. I have no problem with the practice being legal or not. But my feelings against it are based on my knowledge of God and His word to me. The lost don't follow or understand the knowledge of God and His word to us. So, I don't expect them to be for it and I don't expect those who are truly born again, to ever be a majority of any group, except within a body of believers.

It's a choice made by faith. But the majority of the world doesn't have such faith. I'm ok that it can be legal. The crime against God doesn't come until someone has one. And Jesus died for that, too. I think that this evangelical movement to make just this one part of God's will for us to be so diligently fought, while allowing and even practicing it and the many other sins of the world.

Nobody, even within the church seems to be particularly concerned that adultery and fornication should be illegal, also. Games of chance are rampant. So for me, if you want to make such laws to rule the nation, then you need to be following them yourselves. And I know a lot of christians who have had abortions at some point in their life. Even among christians there's a lot of support for abortion.

Religious women have abortions, too. And many faiths affirm abortion rights. (nbcnews.com)

Why in the world are we trying to make the world hate us over this issue of abortion when they know that we can't even settle it among ourselves? They don't understand that, "Well, the Baptists are strict about it and they're more like God." Or the Catholics are more against it. There are hundreds of churches and church goers out there that we don't need to be fighting this fight with the world over abortion, because that's just making us look like hypocrites in their eyes. Tell them about Jesus and let the Holy Spirit begin to teach them of the ways of God. That's the only way you're going to get rid of abortions.

 

[Nehemiah6]

First, Refugee claimants are legally here.

If 10-15 millions of criminals are claiming refugee status, that does not make them such. The definition of refugee is one who flees his country because of persecution by the government. When the MAJORITY of illegal migrants are single, military age adults (not families) who come in and start committing crimes, that is not how real refugees behave.

Breaking immigration laws is a crime in itself and normally these people would be immediately deported, . Many of those coming through the southern border are hardened criminals here for a free ride. They are brazenly entering because the border was left wide open by Biden/Harris.

Illegal Migrants Storm US Border with Giant Venezuelan Flag, Hurl Rocks at Border Agents – Are Forced Back into Mexico
Illegal Migrants Storm US Border with Giant Venezuelan Flag, Hurl Rocks at Border Agents - Are Forced Back into Mexico | The Gateway Pundit | by Margaret Flavin
And now armed gangs of Venezuela criminals are terrorizing innocent lawful citizens.

MAJORITY of Americans WANT a Border Wall for First Time in History - And All It Took was 3 Years of Joe Biden's Open Borders and 10 Million Illegal Migrants | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

 

[tedincarolina]

And you are perfectly OK with the Biden/Harris duo calling more than half the country semi-Nazis, and putting innocents into a gulag, then issuing lengthy sentences for pranking? That's civil respect? How about all the bogus criminal charges against Trump (which have all failed)? That is "normal"?

Since you do not think Kamala is a Communist, it would seem you yourself are one.

Hi @Nehemiah6

Oh no! President Biden and his Vice President are calling more than half the country semi-Nazis (whatever that is. Is that really a thing?) I suppose I'd be wasting my breath to ask what particular speech or claim you're referencing here. And innocents in the gulag. I haven't seen any of that. Everyone I've seen going to jail, as relates this issue of associates of the GOP contender and his crowd of ragtag rebel rousers that stormed the Capitol, are guilty in my book. I mean, I'm sorry, but when you have to gain access to a building by breaking down glass windows and prying open doors, then yes, you are guilt of illegal trespass. I don't care if it's the people's Lincoln Memorial. If the government should decide to rope it off and close off access and a bunch of folks just tear it all down to get in, they're breaking the law and are subject to prosecution.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can look at ALL of the video footage and not see that these people were breaking the law in entering that building. I'm sorry, but as far as I'm concerned someone would have to be dumb as a post to watch all that video and think that wasn't some illegal action that was going on. I mean, you call it as you see it, but from my seat here, those people were an aroused mob who were chanting murderous threats and breaking into the Capitol, and security had every right and authority to bar such people access to the building and tried their best to do that. But you have to go with what your account tells you and what you believe to be facts in the matter.

No, I don't subscribe to the idea that the U.S. Capitol is a building that belongs to the people and that somehow gives any of us the right to enter it as that crowd was doing on that day. But again, hey, you go with what you believe.

lengthy sentences for pranking?

Pranking? That's what you saw on that day in all that video? Ok. Friend, I contend that you've just been totally washed from the neck up.

How about all the bogus criminal charges against Trump (which have all failed)

Failed? Do you even live on this planet? He's been found guilty on several of the charges and is in fact now waiting on sentencing for one of them and the others haven't been concluded yet. Failed? You heard somewhere that all of the charges against him had failed? I'd be getting another source for my facts. The only thing that has failed in all of this is his ability to bring any evidence to support his claims about the world and how it operates. You really believe that all the criminal complaints against him have failed? Do you actually read the news or just follow certain pundits that tell you what your itching ears want to hear. Failed? Really?

When Trump gives his opponents nicknames it is to emphasize who they are.

And you find that to not be totally disrespectful of others. That's what you want in a nation leader. Someone who argues like a five year old. Ok. Hey, if that's what you want, in November you'll be able to let your choice be made. Me, I'm voting for a bit more maturity than a five year old.

 

[cv5]

Yeah, that's who I respect as a leader. One who can't seem to talk about others without making up silly first grade derogatory names for them. Sleepy Joe. Comrade Kamala. Tampon Tim. That's who I want with running the nation. Someone who has no normal, civil respect for anyone.

In other words, the truth of who these people REALLY are is fraying your cognitive dissonance and grasp of reality to the breaking point. An extreme episode leading to dissociation and psychosis is a scary thing. But you never know....maybe you get that moment of clarity. Or maybe haldol and a straitjacket.

Glad I don't have that problem. And neither does Trump. He calls them as they are according to their actions and deeds. Which of course is a testament to his psychological integrity and wholeness.

Having a mind like a bag of feral cats is a real bummer buddy. You have my sympathies.

 

[cv5]

75% Of Midtown NYC Arrests Are Illegals; Veteran Prosecutor Blames "Pathetic" Sanctuary City Laws

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ran-prosecutor-blames-pathetic-sanctuary-city

 

[tedincarolina]

75% Of Midtown NYC Arrests Are Illegals; Veteran Prosecutor Blames "Pathetic" Sanctuary City Laws

https://www.zerohedge.com/political...ran-prosecutor-blames-pathetic-sanctuary-city

Yeah, that's the way the pundits work. The article says that they are migrants. Not that they are illegal. That is a 'fact' that your pundit threw in there to get you all riled up. Now, I don't know if the number is correct or not, but being a migrant isn't the same as being illegal. After all Melania is a migrant by definition of the term. Someone who moves from one place to another, especially changing countries. Yes, I imagine that in the burrows of New York that there are some areas that are pretty much migrant filled. Heck, look at Chinatown. There was a time that there were Polish and Jewish areas of the city that were filled with people who migrated from other countries.

If you're going to make this argument, then you need to do some more research. And of course, even this article doesn't know that percentage to be a fact. According to them, the New York police department doesn't keep such records to identify whether someone is a migrant or not. This is all just personal thoughts of two police officers who say that even they don't know unless someone gives them a shelter address. I mean really, the police of New York think that just because someone has a shelter address that they're a migrant?

So, I'm sorry, but this is not any kind of evidence that proves the claim being made in the article title and the article itself proclaims that. Did you read it?

 

[cv5]

If 10-15 millions of criminals are claiming refugee status, that does not make them such. The definition of refugee is one who flees his country because of persecution by the government. When the MAJORITY of illegal migrants are single, military age adults (not families) who come in and start committing crimes, that is not how real refugees behave.

Breaking immigration laws is a crime in itself and normally these people would be immediately deported, . Many of those coming through the southern border are hardened criminals here for a free ride. They are brazenly entering because the border was left wide open by Biden/Harris.

Illegal Migrants Storm US Border with Giant Venezuelan Flag, Hurl Rocks at Border Agents – Are Forced Back into Mexico
Illegal Migrants Storm US Border with Giant Venezuelan Flag, Hurl Rocks at Border Agents - Are Forced Back into Mexico | The Gateway Pundit | by Margaret Flavin
And now armed gangs of Venezuela criminals are terrorizing innocent lawful citizens.

MAJORITY of Americans WANT a Border Wall for First Time in History - And All It Took was 3 Years of Joe Biden's Open Borders and 10 Million Illegal Migrants | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

The primary and immediate purpose of the phenomenon is election fraud. But there are many other nefarious reasons as well. Economic and social destabilization for example.
Let this guy explain....

https://x.com/VoxExVeritas/status/1829575580775567853

 

[tedincarolina]

In other words, the truth of who these people REALLY are is fraying your cognitive dissonance and grasp of reality to the breaking point. An extreme episode leading to dissociation and psychosis is a scary thing. But you never know....maybe you get that moment of clarity. Or maybe haldol and a straitjacket.

Hey @cv5

Really? That's the best response you got. I'm just reading the supplied article and pointing out that the article doesn't prove the position that is being made.

You're a rather odd duck.

 

[Maggiefortruth]

Yeah @Magenta my son was born at 32 weeks. But I'm just arguing the point being made that Democrats are somehow wanting people to have abortions even after they are born. And even at 24 or 32 weeks, if the baby births and is alive when birthed, it then becomes murder to kill that baby. That's the law in every state in the nation.

The Facts on the Born-Alive Debate - FactCheck.org

While I am personally against abortion, I do know that I live in a lost and dying world and that there is a great swell of people who want to make it legal. I have no problem with the practice being legal or not. But my feelings against it are based on my knowledge of God and His word to me. The lost don't follow or understand the knowledge of God and His word to us. So, I don't expect them to be for it and I don't expect those who are truly born again, to ever be a majority of any group, except within a body of believers.

It's a choice made by faith. But the majority of the world doesn't have such faith. I'm ok that it can be legal. The crime against God doesn't come until someone has one. And Jesus died for that, too. I think that this evangelical movement to make just this one part of God's will for us to be so diligently fought, while allowing and even practicing it and the many other sins of the world.

Nobody, even within the church seems to be particularly concerned that adultery and fornication should be illegal, also. Games of chance are rampant. So for me, if you want to make such laws to rule the nation, then you need to be following them yourselves. And I know a lot of christians who have had abortions at some point in their life. Even among christians there's a lot of support for abortion.

Religious women have abortions, too. And many faiths affirm abortion rights. (nbcnews.com)

Why in the world are we trying to make the world hate us over this issue of abortion when they know that we can't even settle it among ourselves? They don't understand that, "Well, the Baptists are strict about it and they're more like God." Or the Catholics are more against it. There are hundreds of churches and church goers out there that we don't need to be fighting this fight with the world over abortion, because that's just making us look like hypocrites in their eyes. Tell them about Jesus and let the Holy Spirit begin to teach them of the ways of God. That's the only way you're going to get rid of abortions.

More MAGA lies. No recorded cases of abortions

The primary and immediate purpose of the phenomenon is election fraud. But there are many other nefarious reasons as well. Economic and social destabilization for example.
Let this guy explain....

https://x.com/VoxExVeritas/status/1829575580775567853

The thing about abortion is this.....whether you are pro life or pro choice, there has NEVER been a single law in USA or Canada requiring anyone to have an abortion. Both countries have facilities where babies can be surrendered for adoption or fostering. So both sides can live their lives the way they choose. But extremist evangelicos (who are a small percentage of people of faith) dont like that. They want everyone else to have to live their lives a certain way and not have freedom of intellectuality and choice.