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rrcn

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Catholic rituals are not usually enjoyed here. The majorty of believers understand the faulty teachings of the Catholic Church. I fear if you continue to present their teachings, you may not be here long,

(just a friendly warning)
Looks like the papist are targeting this chat site. Here is a site teaches the truth instead of lies and warped pagan doctrines, https://www.marytruth.com/
 

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Looks like the papist are targeting this chat site.
The error is the elevation of Mary above other women, instead of acknowledging that she
is blessed among women. Jesus essentially rebuked the woman who elevated Mary above
others because she had borne and weaned Him... and He never addressed Mary as His mother,
whereas in Catholicism, she is called the Mother of God, mother of us all, queen of heaven, the
second Eve, and born sinless so Jesus would not be tainted by sin (He needed her help? ha, I don't
think so!). They say Mary is a co-redeemer with Christ, when Scripture says that Jesus is the only
mediator between God and man; they pray to Mary, and the "saints," when Jesus instructs us to pray
to God, and nowhere are we told to pray to dead people. The RCC also says Mary did not die, and was
bodily assumed to heaven, which again is nowhere in Scripture. In fact there are only two dogmas in
Catholicism declared ex cathedra, meaning Catholics are mandated to believe them; both concern Mary,
and neither has any Scriptural backing whatsoever. However, God is good and blesses many. :)
 

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The Waldensians:

The Waldensians, founded by Peter Waldo in the 12th century, held several core beliefs that distinguished them from the Catholic Church. Here are some of their key doctrines:

  1. Scripture as Sole Authority: The Waldensians believed that the Bible was the ultimate authority in matters of faith and practice, rejecting the authority of the Catholic Church12.
  2. Voluntary Poverty: Inspired by the teachings of Jesus, they embraced a life of voluntary poverty, giving away their possessions and living simply13.
  3. Preaching and Evangelism: They emphasized preaching the gospel and made efforts to translate the Bible into the vernacular, so that ordinary people could understand it12.
  4. Rejection of Catholic Practices: The Waldensians rejected several Catholic doctrines and practices, including purgatory, the intercession of saints, and indulgences. They viewed these as unbiblical23.
  5. Sacraments: They practiced only two sacraments, baptism and the Eucharist, and rejected the Catholic understanding of transubstantiation, viewing the elements as symbolic2.
  6. Moral Rigour: They emphasized living a life of moral integrity and following the teachings of Jesus closely2.
These beliefs set the Waldensians apart and led to their persecution by the Catholic Church. Their commitment to these principles also made them forerunners of the Protestant Reformation.

The Waldensians, faced severe persecution over several centuries due to their beliefs and practices, which diverged from the Catholic Church. Here are some key points about their persecution:

  1. Early Persecution: The Waldensians were declared heretical by the Catholic Church in 1215. They were excommunicated and faced intense persecution, including confiscation of property, fines, and imprisonment1.
  2. Massacre of Mérindol (1545): One of the most brutal episodes occurred in 1545 in the Luberon region of France. The Waldensians were targeted by the French crown and the Catholic Church, leading to the massacre of many Waldensians in Mérindol and surrounding villages2.
  3. 1655 Piedmont Easter Massacre: Another significant persecution event was the massacre in the Piedmont valleys in 1655. This massacre was so horrific that it inspired John Milton to write his sonnet "On the Late Massacre in Piedmont"3.
  4. Continued Persecution: Throughout the centuries, the Waldensians faced various forms of persecution, including being burned at the stake and depicted as witches. Despite these hardships, they managed to survive and eventually aligned themselves with the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century1.
 

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Here are a few more martyrs:

John Wycliffe
John Wycliffe did not die a martyr’s death. He suffered a stroke in 1383, which left him paralyzed, and he died from a second stroke in 13841. However, his posthumous fate was grim. In 1415, the Council of Constance declared him a heretic, and in 1428, his remains were exhumed, burned, and the ashes were thrown into the River Swift2.

John Huss
John Huss was martyred on July 6, 1415. He was summoned to the Council of Constance under the promise of safe conduct, but upon arrival, he was arrested and tried for heresy. Despite multiple opportunities to recant his views, Huss remained steadfast. He was condemned and burned at the stake, reportedly praying for his enemies as he died34.

Jerome of Prague
Jerome of Prague, a follower of John Huss, was martyred on May 30, 1416. After being arrested for his reformist views, he initially recanted under torture but later reaffirmed his beliefs. This led to his execution by burning at the stake56.
 

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The St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre was a significant and tragic event in French history, occurring on August 24, 1572.

Background
The massacre took place during the French Wars of Religion, a series of conflicts between Catholics and Huguenots (French Calvinist Protestants). Tensions were high, and the political climate was volatile.
The Event
The massacre began in Paris and was triggered by the attempted assassination of Admiral Gaspard de Coligny, a prominent Huguenot leader, on August 22, 1572. Two days later, on the night of August 23-24, Catholic mobs, possibly incited by the royal court, began killing Huguenot leaders who had gathered in Paris for the wedding of the Protestant Henry of Navarre (later King Henry IV) to Margaret of Valois, the Catholic sister of King Charles IX12.
Spread and Impact
The violence quickly spread from Paris to other parts of France, lasting several weeks. Estimates of the number of victims vary widely, with modern historians suggesting between 5,000 and 30,000 Huguenots were killed12. The massacre marked a turning point in the French Wars of Religion, severely weakening the Huguenot political movement and leading to increased radicalization among the survivors1.
Legacy
The St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacre left a lasting impact on European history, reinforcing the deep divisions between Catholics and Protestants. It also contributed to the perception of Catholicism as a violent and treacherous religion among Protestants12.
 

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During the Inquisition, various methods and instruments of torture were used to extract confessions from those accused of heresy. Here are some of the most notorious ones:
The Rack
The rack was a device that stretched the victim’s body, dislocating joints and causing immense pain. The person was tied to a wooden frame, and rollers at either end were turned to pull the limbs apart1.
The Strappado
In this method, the victim’s hands were tied behind their back, and they were hoisted into the air by a rope attached to their wrists. The sudden drop and stop caused severe pain and dislocated shoulders1.
The Iron Maiden
This was a sarcophagus-like device with spikes on the inside. When closed, the spikes would pierce the victim’s body, causing severe injury but not necessarily immediate death1.
The Judas Cradle
The victim was placed on a pyramid-shaped seat, with the point inserted into the anus or vagina. The person was slowly lowered onto the point, causing excruciating pain1.
The Spanish Boot
This device was used to crush the victim’s feet and lower legs. The legs were placed inside a metal boot, and wedges were hammered in to apply pressure1.
Burning at the Stake
While not considered a torture method but rather a form of execution, burning at the stake was a common punishment for heresy. The condemned were tied to a stake and burned alive1.

These methods were part of the broader efforts by the Inquisition to root out heresy and enforce religious orthodoxy.
1: History.com
 

rrcn

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I almost forgot Foxe’s Book of Martyrs:

Foxe’s Book of Martyrs, written by John Foxe and first published in 1563, is a significant work that documents the persecution of Protestants by the Catholic Church. Here are some key points from the book:
Overview
Foxe’s work, originally titled Actes and Monuments, provides a detailed account of the sufferings and martyrdom of Protestants, particularly in England and Scotland. It was intended to highlight the brutality of the Catholic Church and inspire Protestant readers to remain steadfast in their faith1.
Notable Martyrs
Foxe’s book includes numerous stories of individuals who were executed for their Protestant beliefs. Some notable examples are:
Methods of Persecution
Foxe’s book describes various methods of torture and execution used by the Catholic Church to punish heretics, including:
Impact
Foxe’s Book of Martyrs had a profound impact on English society and Protestant identity. It reinforced anti-Catholic sentiments and became a key text in Protestant households, shaping the religious and cultural landscape of England for generations.
1: Wikipedia
 

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it is necessary not to have bad things in your thoughts, negativity and cursing others..
 

daisyseesthesun

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I believe teaching Roman Catholicism isn't permitted on this site.
1 Corinthians 4:15 "For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet ye have not many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel." I'm not catholic and I find the saints to be good teachers. I think all Christians would benefit from reading or watching a movie about a saint.
 

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The error is the elevation of Mary above other women, instead of acknowledging that she
is blessed among women. Jesus essentially rebuked the woman who elevated Mary above
others because she had borne and weaned Him... and He never addressed Mary as His mother,
whereas in Catholicism, she is called the Mother of God, mother of us all, queen of heaven, the
second Eve, and born sinless so Jesus would not be tainted by sin (He needed her help? ha, I don't
think so!). They say Mary is a co-redeemer with Christ, when Scripture says that Jesus is the only
mediator between God and man; they pray to Mary, and the "saints," when Jesus instructs us to pray
to God, and nowhere are we told to pray to dead people. The RCC also says Mary did not die, and was
bodily assumed to heaven, which again is nowhere in Scripture. In fact there are only two dogmas in
Catholicism declared ex cathedra, meaning Catholics are mandated to believe them; both concern Mary,
and neither has any Scriptural backing whatsoever. However, God is good and blesses many. :)

"And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” "But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
 

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"And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice
and said to Him, “Blessed is the wombthat bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” "But he
said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it."
Someone told Him, “Look, Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to You.”
But Jesus replied, “Who is My mother, and who are My brothers?” Pointing to His disciples, He said,
“Here are My mother and My brothers. For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My
brother and sister and mother.” Matthew 12:47-50
 

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1 Corinthians 4:15 "For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet ye have not many fathers; for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the Gospel." I'm not catholic and I find the saints to be good teachers. I think all Christians would benefit from reading or watching a movie about a saint.
Jesus said:
[Mat 23:9 KJV] 9 And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Paul noted a difference between earthly fathers and the heavenly father:
[Heb 12:9 KJV] 9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected [us], and we gave [them] reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
To avoid confusion he urges people to study so they can separate truth from presumption”
[2Ti 2:15 KJV] 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Paul was called to be an apostle in a direct encounter with Jesus:
[Act 9:3-5, 15-16 KJV] 3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? 5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks. ... 15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

The teachings of “the saints” many times contradicts or impede the teachings of the Bible. The erroneous conclusions that would thus be reached could be a sure path to destruction.

Bible religion is not made up of theological systems, creeds, theories, and tradition, for then it would not remain a mystery. The worldly would understand it through their own natural abilities. But religion, Bible religion, has a practical, saving energy, elements proceeding wholly from God—a personal experience of God's power transforming the entire man. 1888 376.3
 

daisyseesthesun

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Rrcn,

Yes, I agree. The Catholics have three main points I disagree with.

worship of Mother Mary
feast days to the saints
relics(in tombed saints)

Isaiah 1:14 KJV: Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

Many Saints don't talk about Mary. The saints from the last 300 years talk about Mary the most. For instance, Saint Jerome, Saint Perpetual, and Saint Veronica were focused entirely on Christ Jesus. Jesus said that he had waited for Saint Veronica Giuliani since the beginning of time.


"You have said, “Seek my face.” My heart says to you, “Your face, Lord, do I seek.”
 

daisyseesthesun

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Rrcn, you have to remember that before the 1600s, there was only one church. Those saints belong to all Christians, not just the catholic.
 

daisyseesthesun

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Rrcn,
As for the other things you mentioned,

Bible religion is not made up of theological systems, creeds, theories, and tradition.

These rules set by the catholic church were to bring the nuns and monks into obedience to God's will “Not my will, but Thy will be done.”

"for then it would not remain a mystery. The worldly would understand it through their own natural abilities."

The flesh fights against the spirit. One in the flesh cannot understand it, for they are blind." But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. "


"the bible has a practical, saving energy, elements proceeding wholly from God—a personal experience of God's power transforming the entire man."

Yes if a person only had one book the living bible would certainly lead you to Christ and the way to live as a Christian But I think for the modern Christian instead of consuming things that are not godly. Studying the saints is much better along with other theologians' missionaries and preachers.
 

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50 QUOTES FROM THE SAINTS THAT ARE A STIMULUS FOR THOUGHT.
This video presents a selection of quotes from holy people from whom we can learn a lot and look at the world from a different perspective. Saints like Saint Pio, Saint Charbel, Saint Augustine and many others can help us develop our faith and draw closer to God through Jesus Christ. Saint Padre Pio says: "SATAN HAS ONLY ONE DOOR BY WHICH HE CAN ENTER OUR SOUL". Let's listen to his words and perhaps it is through the intercession of the saints that God's will will begin to work in our lives. Let us pray, dear ones, and let us strengthen ourselves in faith. Let's read God's word, believe the gospel and live as Jesus Christ wants. When we look at the lives of the saints, we see that they did God's will. They only wanted love and followed it. God is all love; through love man and the whole world were created. Let us thank God for all graces and blessings. Let us pray to the Virgin Mary to cover us with her mantle, let us pray that conversions may multiply in the world through her. Let us pray, dearly beloved. Let us pray, dear ones, that the good God will strengthen our faith, that he will strengthen our courage and perseverance. In connection, we pray every day, we pray the holy rosary, which is a powerful defense against the influence of the evil spirit. Let us not reject the invocation of the Virgin Mary, let us not reject God's love and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Let us enjoy the sacraments of the Eucharist, confession and penance. Let's think about the Holy Scriptures and follow Jesus Christ. The Bible contains a path that every person should follow. Let us not be deceived by the evil that constantly seeks out weak and lukewarm souls. Let us strengthen our faith in Jesus Christ, let us strengthen our spirit to persevere in these difficult times. Let us pray, dear ones, because prayer is so necessary and necessary, let us pray for sinners and for conversion, let us pray constantly, let us persevere in faith and love. Let us pray, dear ones, for conversion, let us pray for peace in the world, let us pray for humanity to throw off the shackles of sin and return to the one God. God does not punish humanity, He does not want it, because He is love, but humanity attracts suffering and misfortune to itself. We are all brothers and sisters, let us unite in prayer to our God the Father to have mercy on the world.


A publication that may be of interest to you is "Only For Catholics Who Believe, Love and Serve our Lord Jesus Christ" by Kevin J. Conner. It's well worth the read.
 

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Catholicism "...list of things that took place in Church History as "the leaven" corrupted "the pure meal" of God's Word..."

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50 QUOTES FROM THE SAINTS THAT ARE A STIMULUS FOR THOUGHT.
This video presents a selection of quotes from holy people from whom we can learn a lot and look at the world from a different perspective. Saints like Saint Pio, Saint Charbel, Saint Augustine and many others can help us develop our faith and draw closer to God through Jesus Christ. Saint Padre Pio says: "SATAN HAS ONLY ONE DOOR BY WHICH HE CAN ENTER OUR SOUL". Let's listen to his words and perhaps it is through the intercession of the saints that God's will will begin to work in our lives. Let us pray, dear ones, and let us strengthen ourselves in faith. Let's read God's word, believe the gospel and live as Jesus Christ wants. When we look at the lives of the saints, we see that they did God's will. They only wanted love and followed it. God is all love; through love man and the whole world were created. Let us thank God for all graces and blessings. Let us pray to the Virgin Mary to cover us with her mantle, let us pray that conversions may multiply in the world through her. Let us pray, dearly beloved. Let us pray, dear ones, that the good God will strengthen our faith, that he will strengthen our courage and perseverance. In connection, we pray every day, we pray the holy rosary, which is a powerful defense against the influence of the evil spirit. Let us not reject the invocation of the Virgin Mary, let us not reject God's love and the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. Let us enjoy the sacraments of the Eucharist, confession and penance. Let's think about the Holy Scriptures and follow Jesus Christ. The Bible contains a path that every person should follow. Let us not be deceived by the evil that constantly seeks out weak and lukewarm souls. Let us strengthen our faith in Jesus Christ, let us strengthen our spirit to persevere in these difficult times. Let us pray, dear ones, because prayer is so necessary and necessary, let us pray for sinners and for conversion, let us pray constantly, let us persevere in faith and love. Let us pray, dear ones, for conversion, let us pray for peace in the world, let us pray for humanity to throw off the shackles of sin and return to the one God. God does not punish humanity, He does not want it, because He is love, but humanity attracts suffering and misfortune to itself. We are all brothers and sisters, let us unite in prayer to our God the Father to have mercy on the world.


Why do you put such an emphasis on what the saints said? Do you claim that they always were perfect in what they said? The Bible is the only book that has that distinction, I believe, not the saints' writings.