Are the moon landings fake?

[kinda]

You know much more about this topic than I do. If the astrophysicists have proven the VA Radiation belt, then the astronauts would be suffering effects from their expedition makes logical sense. This is a legitimate issue that hasn't been addressed to my satisfaction. Perhaps the astronauts died of radiation poisoning except for the few tough ones. I don't know. You'd think that they would have a little better answers for these questions people have, don't you?

I think I spent far to much time on conspiracy theories, compared to most. I'm not sure about the radiation levels, but that's my wild guess. In any event, a nuclear meltdown isn't something that is easily fixed, or even evaluated. I remember hearing that every time they tried to send down robots to the Fukishima reactors, they malfunctioned. That's exactly would would happen, if they sent a space ship 100 miles above earth, but that's just my honest opinion. Someone could site the I.S.S. or whatever, and my mind won't be changed.

I would relate the NFL to the moon landings, once you know that pro sports is rigged, it becomes hilarious. Same with NASA, some serious magic tricks going on. Also, I believe in a concave hollow earth (not the heliocentric version).....when an astronaut says, they traveled 250,000 miles to the moon, it's like o.k., tell me another one spaceman. I know people think that exact opposite, and believe the moon landings, and Heliocentric Model of the earth, but it's a discussion, and people believe differently.

If this was a public setting, my views would be laughed to scorn. If we think that majority rules, try sharing your faith about Jesus at a secular university, you maybe laughed to scorn by university students. These are suppose to be the smart people of the world right?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I think I spent far to much time on conspiracy theories, compared to most. I'm not sure about the radiation levels, but that's my wild guess. In any event, a nuclear meltdown isn't something that is easily fixed, or even evaluated. I remember hearing that every time they tried to send down robots to the Fukishima reactors, they malfunctioned. That's exactly would would happen, if they sent a space ship 100 miles above earth, but that's just my honest opinion. Someone could site the I.S.S. or whatever, and my mind won't be changed.

I would relate the NFL to the moon landings, once you know that pro sports is rigged, it becomes hilarious. Same with NASA, some serious magic tricks going on. Also, I believe in a concave hollow earth (not the heliocentric version).....when an astronaut says, they traveled 250,000 miles to the moon, it's like o.k., tell me another one spaceman. I know people think that exact opposite, and believe the moon landings, and Heliocentric Model of the earth, but it's a discussion, and people believe differently.

If this was a public setting, my views would be laughed to scorn. If we think that majority rules, try sharing your faith about Jesus at a secular university, you maybe laughed to scorn by university students. These are suppose to be the smart people of the world right?

Personally, it won't affect my life whether the astronauts went to the moon or not. That was a lot of tax money spent to get a ball point pen and an orange drink mix out of the deal.

I always believed that they went to the moon until recently when looking up more information that's been posted. Now I have doubts. If anything, NASA has been started with some sinister origins. There must be plenty of decent employees, but I only got to know 2 personally. One was highly educated and smart in many ways. However, she had some very unchristian views and was deluded into denying the existence of physical matter. I never expected someone who studies astrophysics to be so convinced of metaphysics.

Tang tastes Orangie!

 

[NightTwister]

It was faked. I've seen the documentary movie.

 

[kinda]

Personally, it won't affect my life whether the astronauts went to the moon or not. That was a lot of tax money spent to get a ball point pen and an orange drink mix out of the deal.

I always believed that they went to the moon until recently when looking up more information that's been posted. Now I have doubts. If anything, NASA has been started with some sinister origins. There must be plenty of decent employees, but I only got to know 2 personally. One was highly educated and smart in many ways. However, she had some very unchristian views and was deluded into denying the existence of physical matter. I never expected someone who studies astrophysics to be so convinced of metaphysics.

Tang tastes Orangie!

So, what information made you cause doubt? Just curious.


When I watch the actual documentary of how the rocket went to the moon, my brain said, no way, that never happened. I honestly don't remember ever believing in the moon landing, but I definitely remember going to college, and not believing the Mars rover. I let people talk about it, but held my tongue.

 

[NightTwister]

So, what information made you cause doubt? Just curious.


When I watch the actual documentary of how the rocket went to the moon, my brain said, no way, that never happened. I honestly don't remember ever believing in the moon landing, but I definitely remember going to college, and not believing the Mars rover. I let people talk about it, but held my tongue.

I saw that documentary movie too.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

So, what information made you cause doubt? Just curious.


When I watch the actual documentary of how the rocket went to the moon, my brain said, no way, that never happened. I honestly don't remember ever believing in the moon landing, but I definitely remember going to college, and not believing the Mars rover. I let people talk about it, but held my tongue.

1. We covered the Van Allen belt...check

2. One of the interviews of a group of astronauts after their trip seemed unconvincing and too scripted.

3. I expected a LOT more dust upon landing and take off.
The surface is supposed to be dry. There's a lot of thrust.

4. There were photos of close ups of the Apollo that looked like a cheap model reproduction. It had to be, so unless the photos were misrepresented, then the ship was fake.

5. It's my nature to question anything the media and govt publishes. Perception is reality to them. Whether or not it was real wasn't the issue. Was it convincing to the Soviets and American public is one issue.
More important to those involved is whether they got the amount of money they wanted. This is proven a hundred thousand times over,every Drs d Rx and nurses injection of their fake vaccines and harmful chemicals. Their stories and demeanor is very convincing too.
I've seen psychopaths who killed patients in hospice and hospitals. They are nurses and smiling Drs. You can't judge a Jeffery Dalmer by his volks wagon and innocent demeanor. They work in hospitals across the country daily.

6. NASA's historical roots began with a Satanist named Jack Parsons. I've spent too many hours reading his history and listening to the documentaries on his wicked life and business dealings. As a Christian, I should not be deceived by press releases from an organization that has their history.

7. If that makes me a tim foil hat wearer, I will gladly trade it in for one of the suits and helmets that shields a million RADS of radiation.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I saw that documentary movie too.

Was this movie very good?
I liked the Bourne Identity series, but not really his early roles.

 

[NightTwister]

Was this movie very good?
I liked the Bourne Identity series, but not really his early roles.

I really liked this one. It's "re-watchable."

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

So, what information made you cause doubt? Just curious.


When I watch the actual documentary of how the rocket went to the moon, my brain said, no way, that never happened. I honestly don't remember ever believing in the moon landing, but I definitely remember going to college, and not believing the Mars rover. I let people talk about it, but held my tongue.

Thanks for the video on the VA Belt.
The part about going through a thinner area on the way through sounds plausable despite the thin Aluminum and fabric of the suit.
I honestly have no way to verify the guys description since I no nothing about space radiation other than the little I've been told by like sources.

There is footage of the space station orbiting the planet. If that's not a hoax, then that and the satellites must be below that belt. Do you know anything about that?

 

[kinda]

Thanks for the video on the VA Belt.
The part about going through a thinner area on the way through sounds plausable despite the thin Aluminum and fabric of the suit.
I honestly have no way to verify the guys description since I no nothing about space radiation other than the little I've been told by like sources.

There is footage of the space station orbiting the planet. If that's not a hoax, then that and the satellites must be below that belt. Do you know anything about that?

That's all NASA has to do is present it as plausible, then defend it to no end. There is no secret passage way in the Van Allen Radiation Belts for the Saturn Rocket to go through, they are just making it up as they go. They very well can't say, well, we were caught faking it, so we will just admit fooling the public. Ain't gonna happen.

They are then left with a cover story. There is no freaking way any metal could make it through the van allen belts, it's like sticking a fork in the microwave and turning it on for 5 minutes. All the astronauts are lying through their teeth, if they said they been to the moon.

Same goes with the I.S.S.. The official story is that the I.S.S. is at 250 miles above earth, anything above 100 miles above earth is cooked like a 4th July Bar b Q, that is finished off with 10 minutes in a microwave. Well, that's my beliefs anyways.

Going to the moon just isn't possible, even with today's technology. Maybe in a 1000 years there could be a way, but not now. There are just to many obstacles in the way. I really believe man and the devil are trying to get to heaven, without trusting in Jesus, but it's impossible.

I basically see space as a giant solar microwave oven, with millions of meteroids flying around like clockwork. Space is basically God's steam clock and shield. Everybody can see God's amazing time piece and know that nobody is flying free in heaven without invitation. Nobody will convince me that a spaceship make it there and back. It's a fool's quest to goto the moon.

Once again, this is just how I see it.

 

[Gideon300]

Are power plants shielded with aircraft grade aluminum?

No. But nuclear power plants run continually for decades and some radio active materials take thousands of years to decay. The Van Allen belt is thin and so exposure is already limited. Polyethylene provides enough protection in the short term. Remember that it takes about 4-1/2 days to get to the moon.

 

[Gideon300]

That's all NASA has to do is present it as plausible, then defend it to no end. There is no secret passage way in the Van Allen Radiation Belts for the Saturn Rocket to go through, they are just making it up as they go. They very well can't say, well, we were caught faking it, so we will just admit fooling the public. Ain't gonna happen.

They are then left with a cover story. There is no freaking way any metal could make it through the van allen belts, it's like sticking a fork in the microwave and turning it on for 5 minutes. All the astronauts are lying through their teeth, if they said they been to the moon.

Same goes with the I.S.S.. The official story is that the I.S.S. is at 250 miles above earth, anything above 100 miles above earth is cooked like a 4th July Bar b Q, that is finished off with 10 minutes in a microwave. Well, that's my beliefs anyways.

Going to the moon just isn't possible, even with today's technology. Maybe in a 1000 years there could be a way, but not now. There are just to many obstacles in the way. I really believe man and the devil are trying to get to heaven, without trusting in Jesus, but it's impossible.

I basically see space as a giant solar microwave oven, with millions of meteroids flying around like clockwork. Space is basically God's steam clock and shield. Everybody can see God's amazing time piece and know that nobody is flying free in heaven without invitation. Nobody will convince me that a spaceship make it there and back. It's a fool's quest to goto the moon.

Once again, this is just how I see it.

Call God's people and millions of others involved in space programs liars. Then explain to me what possible motive they might have.

Why would anyone want to climb Mt Everest? There is a 25% chance of dying in the attempt. Why would anyone jump out of a perfectly good aircraft and drift down on a bit of rag? By choice? Why would a man try to fly when so many had died in the attempt? Or do you not believe any of those things happen either?

Your beliefs are silly based on your own understanding. You should try finding out facts instead of supposition. Just because you do not understand something does not mean that it's not true. I don't understand differential calculus. I do not ridicule those who do.

 

[Billyd]

I watch TV off a satellite that is in geostationary orbit 22,236 mi above the earth. So much for getting through the Van Allen belts. Those of us who were there know that the landing wasn't fake, and there are many pictures from the Lunar Mapping Orbiter that show every site and the debris field.

In addition, your great grandparents were really smart enough to not only put men on the moon, they sent space craft beyond the edge of the solar system. Suck it up and accept the fact that us old folks are a lot smarter than you think we are.

 

[Eli1]

I watch TV off a satellite that is in geostationary orbit 22,236 mi above the earth. So much for getting through the Van Allen belts. Those of us who were there know that the landing wasn't fake, and there are many pictures from the Lunar Mapping Orbiter that show every site and the debris field.

In addition, your great grandparents were really smart enough to not only put men on the moon, they sent space craft beyond the edge of the solar system. Suck it up and accept the fact that us old folks are a lot smarter than you think we are.

The Internet has caused some "minor" issues with people's thinking.
Just "minor" ones where they can't tell up and down anymore.

 

[Billyd]

The Internet has caused some "minor" issues with people's thinking.
Just "minor" ones where they can't tell up and down anymore.

I see a lot of major issues. People are actually crazy enough to believe that the earth is flat, and there is an ice wall around it.

 

[kinda]

Call God's people and millions of others involved in space programs liars. Then explain to me what possible motive they might have.

Why would anyone want to climb Mt Everest? There is a 25% chance of dying in the attempt. Why would anyone jump out of a perfectly good aircraft and drift down on a bit of rag? By choice? Why would a man try to fly when so many had died in the attempt? Or do you not believe any of those things happen either?

Your beliefs are silly based on your own understanding. You should try finding out facts instead of supposition. Just because you do not understand something does not mean that it's not true. I don't understand differential calculus. I do not ridicule those who do.

Gideon, what you have here is a strawman's argument. Show me where I posted God's people and millions involved are liars? (Reread what my question said, before you respond.) My question above asked, "show me where I posted God's people and millions involved are liars"? This is a two part question, so I would recommend reading maybe a third time, so you don't miss bits, add phrases, or words. If you can't, than please practice your reading comprehension, and don't worry about calculus.

Oh Gideon, I would never ask you a calculus question, when you clearly are failing in reading and understanding what someone is said. Prove me wrong. I do believe you are really good in putting words in people's post, than saying, that the post was silly.....Even though you don't understand was written. You and Billy have this in common. May I guess that you two are both baby boomers, or retirement age?

Until your basic communication skills improve, I will just change the subject when you ask me a question, since it really appears, it's difficult for you to stay on track. Just my two cents friend!


Straw man
"Form of argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent"

 

[kinda]

I watch TV off a satellite that is in geostationary orbit 22,236 mi above the earth. So much for getting through the Van Allen belts. Those of us who were there know that the landing wasn't fake, and there are many pictures from the Lunar Mapping Orbiter that show every site and the debris field.

In addition, your great grandparents were really smart enough to not only put men on the moon, they sent space craft beyond the edge of the solar system. Suck it up and accept the fact that us old folks are a lot smarter than you think we are.

Sorry, I find this topic interesting, so I will ask a question.

Can you prove that the t.v. signal you were watching, came from a satellite, that was in geostationary orbit at approximately 22,236 miles above earth, or is this something you read off a website, and spouted it as a known fact?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Sorry, I find this topic interesting, so I will ask a question.

Can you prove that the t.v. signal you were watching, came from a satellite, that was in geostationary orbit at approximately 22,236 miles above earth, or is this something you read off a website, and spouted it as a known fact?

I sometimes ask myself that too, but not sure how to verify it. There are some satellites that we can see crossing the sky, so I think those particular ones can't be much higher than a jet that's visible with the naked eye. Unless they are incredibly large or lit like a star, I don't know how I can see that far. At the same time, it's hard to know without multiple reliable sources that are trustworthy or verifiable, about the distance from the earth the others are. Fuel capacity would be one limiting factor.

 

[GaryA]

I see a lot of major issues. People are actually crazy enough to believe that the earth is flat, and there is an ice wall around it.

Not looking to start a conversation on Flat Earth in this thread - just want to correct your understanding of the Flat Earth model...

In the Flat Earth model, the ice ring is not around the earth (at its edge); rather, it is around the habitable part of the earth that is inside it - the earth extends far past the ice ring.

 

[GaryA]

There are some satellites that we can see crossing the sky,

There are some [something] that we can see crossing the sky,

I would not recommend assuming-without-proof just exactly what they are...

Based on what I have read/seen/etc. - the size of "satellites" range between a VW Beatle and a school bus.

What is the likelihood that they could be seen at 22,000+ miles away?