Donald Trump: Using Fear and the Race Card?

[JayBird]

Who cites a live source. I told you where you could hear a sitting Congressman confirming in his own words that the Senate bill that was sent back to the House was a completely different bill than the House bill sent to the Senate.

Right, because the Senate bill wasn't a revised version of the House bill. They were two separate bills as I said.

If you continue to put out false information now, it is because you are dishonest. Three other Congressmen were on the same podcast. None discredited his remarks. Four people who have intimate knowledge of both bills confirm what I said to you. Are they lying?

I think you lost track of the discussion.

 

[Cameron143]

Where did that happen?

And are you opposed to the assault of police officers like I am?

Google riots in the summer of 2020. You have been told before. Hard to believe there were nearly 600 riots and you never heard.

 

[mailmandan]

Where did that happen?

And are you opposed to the assault of police officers like I am?

During the riots in the summer of 2020. Around 2 billion dollars in property damage and at least 25 deaths.

Of course I am opposed to the assault of police officers. I stand with law and order and not lawlessness.

 

[JayBird]

During the riots in the summer of 2020. Around 2 billion dollars in property damage and at least 25 deaths.

Where were any cities burned down with no one being prosecuted?

Of course I am opposed to the assault of police officers. I stand with law and order and not lawlessness.

Then you're opposed to Trump planning to release the people who assaulted officers on Jan 6, right?

 

[Cameron143]

Right, because the Senate bill wasn't a revised version of the House bill. They were two separate bills as I said.


I think you lost track of the discussion.

No. You are simply dishonest. You, yourself, posted how the Senate bill codified illegal immigration and then say Trump is responsible for the open border because he was against a bill that allowed for illegal immigration.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Yep, which is why I cannot give my vote to a man... hating one's neighbor.

Elaborate on that one? Not following.

Okay, then provide a source or citation to support that claim.

What claim? That the borders are open?? You just said Biden closed them! Which is it?

Do you pay attention to the news and politics much? If you do, then you already know that President Biden issued his EO closing down the border after Trump had House Republicans kill the immigration reform bill, that would have mandated by law the closure of the border.

Too little too late. Biden could have done from the get go. Instead he tore down everything Trump did, sold the wall for pennies and let them invade the country.

Do you think more tax cuts for billionaires and mega corporations are the solution to that?

They already pay the highest taxes. Keep it up and they will simply move to Mexico.

So you're against providing things like SNAP to poor people?

Yes, down with poor people. Let 'em starve. Wow, this is one I never say but do you have trouble with comprehension or are you gas lighting? Because you didn't get that from what I said.

And Trump was the first President since Hoover to leave office with a negative jobs creation record.

I wonder, humm, what could cause that, humm... Had nothing to do with the Rona??

 

[mailmandan]

Google riots in the summer of 2020. You have been told before. Hard to believe there were nearly 600 riots and you never heard.

Well, the lineral news media did a good job of sweeping those numerous riots that took place during the summer of 2020 under the carpet. They constantly remind us about J6 though and there is a reason for that.

 

[Cameron143]

Well, the lineral news media did a good job of sweeping those numerous riots that took place during the summer of 2020 under the carpet. They constantly remind us about J6 though and there is a reason for that.

He's a troll. I personally told him about the riots before.

 

[JayBird]

You, yourself, posted how the Senate bill codified illegal immigration

I did? Where?

and then say Trump is responsible for the open border because he was against a bill that allowed for illegal immigration.

Are you okay?

To repeat, there is no "open border".

No one is proposing to have an "open border".

The border is currently closed under President Biden's EO.

The Senate bipartisan immigration reform bill, led by Sen. Lankford (R-OK) is not a modified version of the House bill. The two are separate.

Trump ordered Republicans to kill the Senate reform bill.

After Republicans obeyed Trump's orders, President Biden issued his EO closing the border.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

So your argument is that Trump's sin of love of money is okay because Oprah and Obama are guilty of the same sin?

I didn't say they sinned you did. I don't think having money is a sin. If you worked for it, it's yours. I'm not communist. I didn't say any of them sinned.

You're assuming that I'm supporting and voting for Dems, but you're in error.

Well you should be, you could be the poster person for them the way you argue.

Again, the point is, by supporting Trump and excusing all his many sins, you are telling everyone that blatant sinning isn't a big deal for you,

Bub we're done with your gas-lighting on this one. It's been answered a dozen times and you still come back with the same lie. It's not gonna be answered again.

 

[Cameron143]

I did? Where?


Are you okay?

To repeat, there is no "open border".

No one is proposing to have an "open border".

The border is currently closed under President Biden's EO.

The Senate bipartisan immigration reform bill, led by Sen. Lankford (R-OK) is not a modified version of the House bill. The two are separate.

Trump ordered Republicans to kill the Senate reform bill.

After Republicans obeyed Trump's orders, President Biden issued his EO closing the border.

I'm out of troll food. Someone else can feed you. I've had my fill of lies. Grace and peace.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Where were any cities burned down with no one being prosecuted?

Businesses were burned flat to the ground. I don't have stats on which were or weren't prosecuted.

Then you're opposed to Trump planning to release the people who assaulted officers on Jan 6, right?

IF that is proved and everything is opened up for all of us to see what happened on video with no editing, then if they assaulted officers they should do time. Just as soon as every BLM protester is put back in jail to do their time.

 

[mailmandan]

I'm out of troll food. Someone else can feed you. I've had my fill of lies. Grace and peace.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

You seem to have forgotten that I'm an Independent, and am not here supporting Harris.
.

I'm starting to agree with others here. You're trolling. People have answered you a dozen times and you play obtuse. I think it's about time to cut the feed to the troll.

 

[JayBird]

Elaborate on that one? Not following.

Trump constantly insults Americans and calls them names. That's like his calling card!

He says people "poison the blood of our country", calls some Americans "vermin", and says some Americans need to be "rooted out".

In my entire life, I've never seen a candidate pour out so much nastiness and hate towards our neighbors.

What claim?

You said Dems have advocated for open borders for 3.5 years.

Too little too late. Biden could have done from the get go. Instead he tore down everything Trump did, sold the wall for pennies and let them invade the country.

Sold the wall? Tore down everything? Citation or source please.

And it disheartens me greatly to see Christians referring to migrant families as an "invasion". Christ was very clear about how we're to treat the least of us, something I think you would do well to pray on.

They already pay the highest taxes. Keep it up and they will simply move to Mexico.

If you think the problem in the US is that billionaires and mega corporations just don't have enough money, we'll have to disagree.

Yes, down with poor people. Let 'em starve. Wow, this is one I never say but do you have trouble with comprehension or are you gas lighting? Because you didn't get that from what I said.

Glad to see we agree on the importance of programs that help the poor.

I wonder, humm, what could cause that, humm... Had nothing to do with the Rona??

Yes it did. And in the last 3.5 years all those jobs have come back plus an additional 6 million. Hopefully we agree that that's a good thing.

 

[JayBird]

I didn't say they sinned you did. I don't think having money is a sin. If you worked for it, it's yours. I'm not communist. I didn't say any of them sinned.

What do you think is the difference between having money, and the love of money?

Bub we're done with your gas-lighting on this one. It's been answered a dozen times and you still come back with the same lie. It's not gonna be answered again.

What lie?

And what do you think about Mike Pence, a good Christian man and Trump's Vice President, who refuses to support or vote for Trump?

 

[JayBird]

I'm out of troll food. Someone else can feed you. I've had my fill of lies. Grace and peace.

Please stop the personal attacks. And if you're going to accuse someone of lying, there's a moral obligation to do more than just accuse. We're Christians, we're supposed to be better than that.

 

[JayBird]

Businesses were burned flat to the ground. I don't have stats on which were or weren't prosecuted.

Yep, businesses were burned and people were prosecuted for it. No cities were burned to the ground however.

IF

that is proved and everything is opened up for all of us to see what happened on video with no editing, then if they assaulted officers they should do time. Just as soon as every BLM protester is put back in jail to do their time.

They either pleaded guilty or were convicted in court for assaulting officers on Jan 6.

Do you support Trump's promise to release them?

 

[JayBird]

I'm starting to agree with others here. You're trolling. People have answered you a dozen times and you play obtuse. I think it's about time to cut the feed to the troll.

I'm getting the impression that "you're a troll" is nothing more than a lazy excuse to exit a discussion that isn't going well. So rather than engage honestly and openly, just call the other person a troll and leave.

I think you can do better than that.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I'm getting the impression that "you're a troll" is nothing more than a lazy excuse to exit a discussion that isn't going well. So rather than engage honestly and openly, just call the other person a troll and leave.

I think you can do better than that.

No we're all well versed in trolls here. We know who you are. Mods usually step in and remind us about these situations. I have a dog that chases it's tail less than you do. I'm done with the same questions every time. It's old. When you bring better, I will. Till then, no feeding from here.