Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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HeIsHere

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Ask yourself why "they" despise BOTH Trump and RFK Jr.
Will things change for the better? Maybe. Maybe not.
But its a decent start.

Furthermore, there seems to be little in the way of alternatives.
My knowledgeable, rational side says it is just a true LARP of the Masonic floor, no grey, black and white and the vitriol goes both ways.

My hopeful side is maybe they do threaten the power structure.
I absolutely agree maybe, maybe not.

We will know shortly I think.
 

HeIsHere

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Usually the laws and processes of a nation function just fine regardless who is president that's why for me it's mostly entertainment because it has no changes in my real life or the real life of my family, extended family, friends or the whole damn state where i live in for that matter.
The only thing that has changed is that these rules and processes have changed a bit due to the left which is trying to dilute language. So they are the first to cause a reaction in the society.
But since there's so much money in USA, nobody has the need to start a revolution.
As the Greeks said "Democracy begins with a full stomach". So when the USA runs out of money, then people will learn math again and how to balance the budget. For now it's just Party Mode and throwing money away.
Unless you are physically or mentally disabled, there is no reason to be poor in USA. No reason. In fact a lot of people make a lot of money here doing useless positions which shouldn't exist and they make like $100K a year.
So when you donate money, you want to make sure you're donating to organizations or churches who help the physically or mentally disabled.
This is why it's literally meaningless as to who is president because society functions just fine on a day-to-day basis due to laws and processes.
In this election though, Trump is going to be the tool to balance the equation started from the left.
Very interesting take.
We may not realize the affect of government because it may be like the boiling frog analogy.

You may not have been affected but many countries around the world have been affected by the actions of the President, one being the weapons of mass destruction lie and how many died in that war???
 
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Ask yourself why "they" despise BOTH Trump and RFK Jr.
And then tried to knock them both off or out.

Will things change for the better? Maybe. Maybe not.
But its a decent start.

Furthermore, there seems to be little in the way of alternatives.
Marina Abramovic agrees with you. :eek:
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Ask yourself why "they" despise BOTH Trump and RFK Jr.
And then tried to knock them both off or out.

Will things change for the better? Maybe. Maybe not.
But its a decent start.
Furthermore, there seems to be little in the way of alternatives.
Watched Bill Maher yesterday to see his POV. He said the nastiest things he could come up with about RFK. If he's no threat, why rip him apart? It's like they're done with Trump, lets all train on RFK.
 

Eli1

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Very interesting take.
We may not realize the affect of government because it may be like the boiling frog analogy.

You may not have been affected but many countries around the world have been affected by the actions of the President, one being the weapons of mass destruction lie and how many died in that war???
Absolutely correct.
The population is isolated here physically and mentally to the realities of war. They haven't had a war since the civil war and WW2 barely affected them.
It's all talking points in the news. They have no idea that their houses can turn into rubble from bombs or tanks.
So this blessing has caused some boredom maybe because the most important things like homelessness, drugs, infrastructure, immigration, health, cost of living are put in the back burner.
What's put in the front burner is making bathrooms for people with "no identities" and "green" projects.
 

HeIsHere

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Absolutely correct.
The population is isolated here physically and mentally to the realities of war. They haven't had a war since the civil war and WW2 barely affected them.
It's all talking points in the news. They have no idea that their houses can turn into rubble from bombs or tanks.
So this blessing has caused some boredom maybe because the most important things like homelessness, drugs, infrastructure, immigration, health, cost of living are put in the back burner.
What's put in the front burner is making bathrooms for people with "no identities" and "green" projects.
There is so much to discuss on this, so are many factors, it literally makes my head hurt!
 

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🔥HERE WE GO🔥

-RFK Jr. will be “actively campaigning” with Trump

-Trump will have a series of announcements revealing “other Democrats joining his campaign”

-Trump and RFK Jr. are all-in on making American healthy again

The campaign is just getting started!
 

JayBird

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They were given the liberty to live as they wished, that wasn't good enough. Then they wanted gay wedding cakes made

So? Are you saying they shouldn't be able to buy things?

and pastors forced to marry them,
Never happened in the US.

and gay porn read to school kids and drag queens reading to children while shaking their penis in their faces. They demand to be in women's bathrooms, showers and other private places. They want to be in womens sports. And they want us to agree with everything they believe they are. They demand to be called by certain pronouns and wait and see if you won't be jailed if you don't give in to their demands. That's the issue.
You're missing the point again.

When you decided that Trump's lifetime of sexual sin was acceptable and not important enough to lead you to not support him, you surrendered all ability to lecture anyone else about sexual sins.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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So? Are you saying they shouldn't be able to buy things?
Yes, that's what I'm saying. Gays should never, never, never, ever be able to buy things. That's exactly what I said. :rolleyes::cautious::poop:


Never happened in the US.
I said they wanted, and yes it can and will happen, watch and see.


You're missing the point again.
No I'm not.


When you decided that Trump's lifetime of sexual sin was acceptable and not important enough to lead you to not support him, you surrendered all ability to lecture anyone else about sexual sins.
Nope, but you keep chewin' on that rope. No one here ever said sin was acceptable,we did agree that Christians have voted for other presidents with moral failure. We also said of two platforms, one was Biblical the other is not. It's quite simple, but you keep twistin' in the wind over it.
 

JayBird

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Yes, that's what I'm saying. Gays should never, never, never, ever be able to buy things. That's exactly what I said.

So why does them buying things bother you so?


I said they wanted, and yes it can and will happen, watch and see.
The US has had for a very long time, and still has, churches that refuse to marry interracial couples, yet the government hasn't forced them to change, because doing so would be an obvious infringement on their freedom of religion. The same holds true for gay marriages.

No one here ever said sin was acceptable
You're effectively saying it's not important.

we did agree that Christians have voted for other presidents with moral failure. We also said of two platforms, one was Biblical the other is not. It's quite simple, but you keep twistin' in the wind over it.
There's a big difference between a candidate that finagled their taxes, got divorced, or had one affair decades ago, and one who has the ridiculously sinful life of Donald Trump.

By supporting him and making excuses for his bragging about grabbing women by their privates (while his wife was home with their new baby), paying porn actresses to keep quiet about their affairs, appearing in Playboy videos, sexually assaulting a woman, bragging about barging into women's changing rooms, etc., you're implying that you're okay with those things.

Throw in his extreme love of money, greed, scams, fraud, nastiness, hate, and even leading a church in a chant of a dirty word (while kids were there), and we're in a whole different world than your typical politician.

Add in how he turned on a Christian man in Mike Pence on Jan 6 and didn't even try and stop his mob from trying to find and hang him!

Making excuses for, and waving away all of that comes with a price. And sadly, it seems you have made that deal.