Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[Cameron143]

You never consider a candidate's past when deciding how to vote?


Where?

Just reread your posts.

 

[Eli1]

That's not even the worst of it. what about the mutilation of children and teenagers to conform to the promotion of demonic transgenderism.

As to anyone claiming to be neutral today, that it a complete lie. Even you cannot be neutral given what has been done to America, and what is being done to the West. Conservatives from the West are flocking to Russia which upholds conservative values. Yes Putin is an evil man, but when Tucker Carlson visited Moscow, he was stunned to see how clean it was in comparison to American cities today.

I can't answer this point of Westerners leaving for Russia because it would be very offensive to a lot of people. I usually see a lot of offensive things in this forum, but i am very forgiving.

But what i have seen is the dilution of language because during my 30 years in USA, it has made zero difference on my daily life as to who is president. Zero.
But what i have noticed is that the left is trying to regulate language, which is a move that the old USSR used to do.
Because these social upheavals are bigger then us, i expect that this move by the left to control language and ideas will be counterbalanced by itself. Right now in the form of Trump who i would vote for if i lived in a swing state.

 

[JayBird]

If you agree to live in a society where everyone is free to do whatever they want without causing anarchy, then why are you even debating to begin with? Since nothing is going to happen to you physically?

I don't understand your point. Are you saying Americans should not have the freedom and liberty to live as they wish?

But if you live in a society where if you don't accept that a man in a dress is a woman and this results in you losing your job

That's between the employee and the employer. If the employer says employees have to refer to trans people by their preferred gender, then people who can't do that shouldn't work there.

That's the free market.

then the next reaction to this is Trump installing a Christian Theocracy where you will be required to have a mullet haircut and drive a Ford pickup truck.

Sorry, not following you.

 

[JayBird]

Just reread your posts.

So you can't show where I lied, but you still accuse me of it.

I pray God forgive you.

 

[Eli1]

I don't understand your point. Are you saying Americans should not have the freedom and liberty to live as they wish?

Why are you arguing against Conservatives is everyone is free to live as they wish?

That's between the employee and the employer. If the employer says employees have to refer to trans people by their preferred gender, then people who can't do that shouldn't work there.

That's the free market.


Sorry, not following you.

Then the free society will elect Trump because a current segment of the market doesn't like when they mock their senses.

 

[ZNP]

1 Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?...9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Would you dare to have a thief rule over your bank account?

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Apparently you can't hardly discuss anything on this forum anymore without these shills showing up and talking about Trump and Harris. I don't understand why they are so paranoid, you mention thieves and they assume you are talking about the Democrats. So I provide this video which beautifully illustrates what happens when you let thieves become the rulers.

 

[Cameron143]

So you can't show where I lied, but you still accuse me of it.

I pray God forgive you.

Hi kettle.

 

[JayBird]

Why are you arguing against Conservatives is everyone is free to live as they wish?

Could you restate your question please?

Then the free society will elect Trump

I certainly hope not.

If the federal government can prosecute people for living a lifestyle that you don't like, what makes you think that won't be turned on Christians later in the future? What happens when secularists gain power and decide to crack down on conservatives or Christians?

 

[Eli1]

Could you restate your question please?


I certainly hope not.

If the federal government can prosecute people for living a lifestyle that you don't like, what makes you think that won't be turned on Christians later in the future? What happens when secularists gain power and decide to crack down on conservatives or Christians?

Let’s summarize.

- I suggested that in order to have a more normal dialogue towards the center of the scale then the left should admit that a man in a dress is not a woman.
- You then said that all Americans have freedom and liberty to live as they wish.
- Then i said that if everyone has freedom and liberty to live as they wish, then why are you even arguing against conservatives?
- You then said that the free-market determines what a private employer should do.
- I then said that the free-market might correct itself by electing Trump.
- You then said: I hope not. Because then the Christian theocracy will persecute people for many things including language usage while ignoring that the government on the left has set the standards in the market by their language usage to call a man in a dress .. a woman.

This is where we are.

 

[HeIsHere]

So you can't show where I lied, but you still accuse me of it.

I pray God forgive you.

I really do not understand these accusations on a message board, you are a liar, you are a hypocrite, you should apologize ... people can police themselves, if they do they do, if they don't that is there problem.

 

[JayBird]

Let’s summarize

- I suggested that in order to have a more normal dialogue towards the center of the scale then the left should admit that a man in a dress is not a woman.
- You then said that all Americans have freedom and liberty to live as they wish.
- Then i said that if everyone has freedom and liberty to live as they wish, then why are you even arguing against conservatives?
- You then said that the free-market determines what a private employer should do.
- I then said that the free-market might correct itself by electing Trump.
- You then said: I hope not. Because then the Christian theocracy will persecute people for many things including language usage while ignoring that the government on the left has set the standards in the market by their language usage to call a man in a dress .. a woman.

This is where we are.

Ok, thanks for the summary.

 

[JayBird]

I really do not understand these accusations on a message board, you are a liar, you are a hypocrite, you should apologize ... people can police themselves, if they do they do, if they don't that is there problem.

Well, like I posted a few days ago, it seems one of the reasons some people identify with Trump is because like him, they too engage in personal attacks, name calling, and overall nastiness.

 

[Eli1]

Ok, thanks for the summary.

Okay so now that we've done a full circle, do you think it's reasonable to say that a man in a dress is not a woman?
You know since we're independents and we are able to see outside of team sports?

 

[JayBird]

do you think it's reasonable to say that a man in a dress is not a woman?

Honestly, it's none of my business. If the neighbor down the street wants to believe they're the greatest basketball player in the world, how does that matter to me?

You know since we're independents and we are able to see outside of team sports?

Yep, which means we can vote on values like freedom and liberty.

 

[Eli1]

Honestly, it's none of my business. If the neighbor down the street wants to believe they're the greatest basketball player in the world, how does that matter to me?

Ah, but now we going to do another circle.
If it's none of your business what people do, then why are you even arguing with conservatives about their beliefs in their business?

 

[JayBird]

If it's none of your business what people do, then why are you even arguing with conservatives about their beliefs in their business?

Because it's not so simplistically black and white.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

So then I can expect in the future, to never see you pointing out anyone's sins or flaws, right?

How about you stop flappin' the gums and listen to what is being said. Politicians aren't pastors. Just like sports figures aren't, or actors. You don't stop watching sports because of their lives. Or stop watching movies because of actors. But hey, listen, if you can find the perfect moral candidate to vote for, let me know. Let us know!! We'll all flock to the person you believe is perfect.

 

[Eli1]

Because it's not so simplistically black and white.

You sure you're an independent?
You call a man in a dress a "vague" subject which falls under the category of personal freedoms but you find more nuance in conservatives?

 

[JayBird]

Politicians aren't pastors. Just like sports figures aren't, or actors. You don't stop watching sports because of their lives. Or stop watching movies because of actors. But hey, listen, if you can find the perfect moral candidate to vote for, let me know. Let us know!! We'll all flock to the person you believe is perfect.

Again you seem to be missing the point.

If you want the credibility to go around condemning others for sexual sins, you can't simultaneously excuse the same thing (or worse) with Trump.

Well, I guess you can try but you won't have any credibility, you'll likely be seen as hypocritical, and you may even turn people against the Gospel.

 

[JayBird]

You sure you're an independent?

Registered Independent my whole life.

You call a man in a dress a "vague" subject which falls under the category of personal freedoms but you find more nuance in conservatives?

If someone is trans, in the vast majority of cases it's none of my business because it doesn't affect me. Some conservative and liberal policies and proposals do affect me.