Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
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Hey Jay, let's keep this above the belt ok? You don't know me and don't presume that you do. You ask me what I think, you don't tell me what I think. We understand each other?? Good!! Trump is no more immoral than anyone else running for office. I've already proved that in another post. So you can step off and watch your accusations. Got it bro??!
I'm responding to what you posted.
Trump is hardly "no more immoral than anyone else". Who else has bragged about hitting on women while his wife was at home with their new baby? Who else has bragged about grabbing women by their privates? Who else has had affairs with porn actresses? Who else has appeared in Playboy videos? Who else has bragged about walking into women's dressing rooms unannounced?
And again, by excusing all of that you're effectively saying sexual morality doesn't matter to you. If it did, you'd never give your support or vote to such a hedonist.
Trump is hardly "no more immoral than anyone else". Who else has bragged about hitting on women while his wife was at home with their new baby? Who else has bragged about grabbing women by their privates? Who else has had affairs with porn actresses? Who else has appeared in Playboy videos? Who else has bragged about walking into women's dressing rooms unannounced?
And again, by excusing all of that you're effectively saying sexual morality doesn't matter to you. If it did, you'd never give your support or vote to such a hedonist.
Huh? So a lifetime living a hedonistic, sexually immoral lifestyle for which Trump even said he doesn't need to ask God for forgiveness for, can all be waved away because it wasn't within the last 5 years?
Why are you so eager to make apologies for Trump's immorality? Sin is sin, no matter who does it, is it not?
Why are you so eager to make apologies for Trump's immorality? Sin is sin, no matter who does it, is it not?
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1 Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?...9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Would you dare to have a thief rule over your bank account? What do you think happens if an idolater rules over the Olympics, or the Oscars, or the Grammy's, or the Super Bowl? Would you let fornicators and adulterers rule over the schools and the government? Don't you think fornicators and adulterers have a vested interest in legalizing abortion?
What we are seeing right now is what happens when the unrighteous rule. For example, they are now proposing to tax unrealized capital gains. Suppose you bought your house for 10k back in the 1960s. You have put a lot of work into that house over the last sixty years and now it is worth 500k. The government wants you to come up with about 70k to give them in "unrealized capital gains"? What are we talking about? That house that you bought for 10k, you can't buy a house like that for 10k today. If you adjust for inflation it would be at least 300k. So are they going to adjust for inflation? Of course not. You put a lot of money into fixing up that house, can you deduct all the money you have spent on the house for the last sixty years? Of course not. This is simply theft. If they take 75k from you and all your neighbors and everyone in the country what do you think will happen to housing prices? If they go down will you get a tax write off next year for unrealized capital losses? These laws are being proposed by thieves.
Consider Social Security. The fund is about $3 trillion dollars. All the gold in the commodity market is worth about $13 trillion. Imagine if all the money taken from Americans for Social Security had gone to buy gold. The price of gold would be much higher than it is now. Instead of $2,500 it might be $3,000 or more likely $4,000. In 1970 gold was $40 an ounce. To go from $40 to $4,000 an ounce would be better than just about any investment you could have bought in 1970. You would be assured of not losing money and instead since you knew that the fund would be buying up a lot of gold it would be safe bet you would do very well. Instead what is the fund filled with? IOU's from the US government which is run by thieves and is bankrupt. You let thieves take your retirement money. Remember, every month you paid taxes on your income and some of the money was also taken for Social Security. Well now they want to tax the Social Security! Why? You already paid taxes on that money. This is what happens when you let thieves take charge of your bank account.
Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Jesus warned you. Paul warned you. Did you heed the warning?
Would you dare to have a thief rule over your bank account? What do you think happens if an idolater rules over the Olympics, or the Oscars, or the Grammy's, or the Super Bowl? Would you let fornicators and adulterers rule over the schools and the government? Don't you think fornicators and adulterers have a vested interest in legalizing abortion?
What we are seeing right now is what happens when the unrighteous rule. For example, they are now proposing to tax unrealized capital gains. Suppose you bought your house for 10k back in the 1960s. You have put a lot of work into that house over the last sixty years and now it is worth 500k. The government wants you to come up with about 70k to give them in "unrealized capital gains"? What are we talking about? That house that you bought for 10k, you can't buy a house like that for 10k today. If you adjust for inflation it would be at least 300k. So are they going to adjust for inflation? Of course not. You put a lot of money into fixing up that house, can you deduct all the money you have spent on the house for the last sixty years? Of course not. This is simply theft. If they take 75k from you and all your neighbors and everyone in the country what do you think will happen to housing prices? If they go down will you get a tax write off next year for unrealized capital losses? These laws are being proposed by thieves.
Consider Social Security. The fund is about $3 trillion dollars. All the gold in the commodity market is worth about $13 trillion. Imagine if all the money taken from Americans for Social Security had gone to buy gold. The price of gold would be much higher than it is now. Instead of $2,500 it might be $3,000 or more likely $4,000. In 1970 gold was $40 an ounce. To go from $40 to $4,000 an ounce would be better than just about any investment you could have bought in 1970. You would be assured of not losing money and instead since you knew that the fund would be buying up a lot of gold it would be safe bet you would do very well. Instead what is the fund filled with? IOU's from the US government which is run by thieves and is bankrupt. You let thieves take your retirement money. Remember, every month you paid taxes on your income and some of the money was also taken for Social Security. Well now they want to tax the Social Security! Why? You already paid taxes on that money. This is what happens when you let thieves take charge of your bank account.
Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: 20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Jesus warned you. Paul warned you. Did you heed the warning?
But he also said he's never done anything he needs to ask God's forgiveness for. Doesn't sound like he's changed.
He's almost 80, so his days of adultery, fornication, and sexual assault are hopefully over.
Have you ever seen or heard him apologize or ask forgiveness for any of his past behavior?
He's almost 80, so his days of adultery, fornication, and sexual assault are hopefully over.
Have you ever seen or heard him apologize or ask forgiveness for any of his past behavior?
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We've been through this before. Let's bring you up to date. Christians voted Bill Clinton back into office after what he did IN the WH. We were told then by the Dems that what Clinton did in his personal life didn't affect the job he did as president. Christians backed Mc Cain, who admitted to cheating on his ill wife more than once. Christians backed Obama who was rumored to have gay sex and wrote a diary about his feelings for men. Bush Jr admitted to saying inappropriate things to women and having trouble with alcohol, which he got under control before he got into the WH. Biden has been accused of sexually assaulting a women. He had to promise he would stop touching and sniffing women because they were uncomfortable. People that have worked in his secret service said he was known for swimming naked in front of the women agents. And last but not least Harris was dating Willie Brown while he was still married. So you who is without sin, cast the first stone.
Now, all have sinned. I explained my stance. Now you will stop that accusation!
Now, all have sinned. I explained my stance. Now you will stop that accusation!
I never said anything about him being disqualified.
I'm pointing out the problem with Trump supporters saying sexual morality is important, while simultaneously waving away and excusing Trump's lifetime of sexual immorality, for which he's never apologized or asked God's forgiveness.
Again, he literally said he's never done anything that he needs to seek God's forgiveness for.
I'm pointing out the problem with Trump supporters saying sexual morality is important, while simultaneously waving away and excusing Trump's lifetime of sexual immorality, for which he's never apologized or asked God's forgiveness.
Again, he literally said he's never done anything that he needs to seek God's forgiveness for.
What's your point? It kinda comes across as a "other people have been hypocrites, so it's okay if I am too".
This isn't complicated. If you go around condemning other people for engaging in sexual immoral behaviors, while simultaneously turning a blind eye to, or even justifying, Trump's lifetime of sexual immorality, a lot of people are going to see that as hypocritical.
And all that accomplishes is your original message against sexual sin is completely lost and forgotten.