What is the Meaning of This Parable

[Musicmaster]

I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM

 

[Magenta]

I can't say I understand your question. Plus I don't really do commentaries. I certainly do not have bookshelves full of them LOL. As to the parable itself, it is my understanding that Jesus is alluding to His own three years of ministry, the fig tree being representative of Israel and the temple system, which Jesus foretold the end of and actually cursed for being unfruitful, on His way to Jerusalem during what is often referred to as holy week (leading up to Jesus' crucifixion). This was an indication of how unfruitful the temple sacrificial system was, and in cursing the fig tree for its lack of fruit, Jesus was indicating that that whole system was coming to an end.

 

[Marilyn]

I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM

Hi MM,

Jesus came to confirm the promises to Israel. (Rom. 15: 8) Thus this parable concerns Jesus coming to Israel seeking to find them repentant. For 3 years of His ministry He sought fruit from Israel, but didn`t find it so that generation and succeeding generations were `cut off.`

 

[Adstar]

I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM

God does not give up on people simply because they resisted His leading once.. God will make multiple attempts to move a person before eventually giving them over to delusions and deceptions..

 

[Musicmaster]

I can't say I understand your question. Plus I don't really do commentaries. I certainly do not have bookshelves full of them LOL. As to the parable itself, it is my understanding that Jesus is alluding to His own three years of ministry, the fig tree being representative of Israel and the temple system, which Jesus foretold the end of and actually cursed for being unfruitful, on His way to Jerusalem during what is often referred to as holy week (leading up to Jesus' crucifixion). This was an indication of how unfruitful the temple sacrificial system was, and in cursing the fig tree for its lack of fruit, Jesus was indicating that that whole system was coming to an end.

That's pretty much what I got from it, but I think there's more. Sorry my question wasn't more clear, and thank you for taking the time to respond to this inquiry. I like asking others to see if maybe there's something I might have missed...sort of like brainstorming.

What I was looking for is the parallel in the events within Israel that parallel this parable. I think there's a precise parallel in the latter portion of that parable with an actual event within Acts. I wanted to see if I were among the few who saw it.

Blessings to you and yours.

MM

 

[cv5]

I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM

Funny you should ask...

https://www.sermonaudio.com/solo/cliffside/sermons/48162025384/

One needs to study the cursing of the fig tree first, then move on to Matt 21, Mark 11 and of course Genesis 3.
Really, all and every statement regarding fig trees, leaves and fruit and put them all together.

 

[Musicmaster]

Hi MM,

Jesus came to confirm the promises to Israel. (Rom. 15: 8) Thus this parable concerns Jesus coming to Israel seeking to find them repentant. For 3 years of His ministry He sought fruit from Israel, but didn`t find it so that generation and succeeding generations were `cut off.`

That's a good way to put it, and thanks for taking the time to respond. This will be interesting exploring this more deeply. Don't worry, though. I've heard other lessons on other topics where someone would take a verse or two and beat them to death with allusions and similes of meaning they thought was doing to dredge every scrap of meaning when only one of the assumptions may have been the intent of the Lord. It's indeed exciting to explore the things of the Lord.

Blessings to you and yours.

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

God does not give up on people simply because they resisted His leading once.. God will make multiple attempts to move a person before eventually giving them over to delusions and deceptions..

I'm not sure how you arrived at this from that parable, but it would be interesting to see further expounding on your thoughts about this.

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

Much of that parable seems fairly easy to understand:

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.

This is straight forward for the sake of parallels, in that the vineyard is the world, and the free is Israel. The fruit has parallels throughout, spanning from obedience all the way to spiritual fruits.

7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?

Now, if Yahshuah is the "certain man," then the dresser is...whom, or perhaps...Whom? It seems reasonable within the context of this particular parable that the dresser is the Father. I will address this in more detail later...

8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

So, adding one more year while the "dresser" fertilized and cared for it to get it to bear fruit, that has a parallel. What, or who, do you think that is?

MM

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM

13 There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”​

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6 He also spoke this parable: “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none. 7 Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, ‘Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?’ 8 But he answered and said to him, ‘Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it. 9 And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.’ ”​

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[The New King James Version (Lk 13:1–9). (1982). Thomas Nelson.]​

The parable is about God's longsuffering with sinners. He wants them to come to repentance, but His patience will eventually run out. Then there will be judgement.

Notice in the story that led to Him telling the parable that He was addressing the peoples' belief that those who suffered calamity were more deserving of punishment than the ordinary person. He said the Galileans who perished were not a special class of sinner, but all Galileans would perish if they didn't repent. He said the same thing about the inhabitants of Jeruselem on whom the tower of Sloam fell. They were not especially sinful, but all inhabitants of Jerusalem would perish if they did not repent.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM

It’s about Israel and thier rebellious kingdom and how the messiah was thier last hope of salvation.

 

[Musicmaster]

13 There were present at that season some who told Him about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Do you suppose that these Galileans were worse sinners than all other Galileans, because they suffered such things? 3 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish. 4 Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell and killed them, do you think that they were worse sinners than all other men who dwelt in Jerusalem? 5 I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.”​

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6 He also spoke this parable: “A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none. 7 Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, ‘Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?’ 8 But he answered and said to him, ‘Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize it. 9 And if it bears fruit, well. But if not, after that you can cut it down.’ ”​

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[The New King James Version (Lk 13:1–9). (1982). Thomas Nelson.]​

The parable is about God's longsuffering with sinners. He wants them to come to repentance, but His patience will eventually run out. Then there will be judgement.

Notice in the story that led to Him telling the parable that He was addressing the peoples' belief that those who suffered calamity were more deserving of punishment than the ordinary person. He said the Galileans who perished were not a special class of sinner, but all Galileans would perish if they didn't repent. He said the same thing about the inhabitants of Jeruselem on whom the tower of Sloam fell. They were not especially sinful, but all inhabitants of Jerusalem would perish if they did not repent.

Would you show to us a parallel in the Bible where sinners in general are portrayed as an olive tree? This was unexpected, and is a point of curiosity to me.

Thanks

MM

 

[Musicmaster]

It’s about Israel and thier rebellious kingdom and how the messiah was thier last hope of salvation.

Do you see anything in the timelines in that parable, and anything else with which it may compare that happened after, or before, the timelines in that parable?

MM

 

[Jimbone]

There is also another parable that gets even more specific than this, the parable of the wicked tenants. Matthew 21:33-46

33 “Hear another parable. There was a householder who planted a vineyard, and set a hedge around it, and dug a wine press in it, and built a tower, and let it out to tenants, and went into another country. 34 When the season of fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants, to get his fruit; 35 and the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first; and they did the same to them. 37 Afterward he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir; come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ 39 And they took him and cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. 40 When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” 41 They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death, and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the scriptures:

‘The very stone which the builders rejected
has become the head of the corner;
this was the Lord’s doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?

43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it.”

45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. 46 But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because they held him to be a prophet.

This is pretty clear down to the Pharisees understanding the He was talking about them. This is also exactly what happen at the end of the AGE that Jesus told them was coming before THAT generation pasted away. That happened within 40 years of when He said it when Rome invaded and torn down the temple, not one brick left on another. It all happened EXACTLY how He said it would, EXACTLY when He said it would and for some reason we have created this "future to us" idea that frankly makes Jesus either wrong or a liar.

He's not, but if you buy into the idea that everything Jesus said would happen "before this (the generation He was speaking to) generation passed away, that he told "there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom", or when He said "When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes", even strange little things like on the way to the cross when he tells the weeping women not to cry for Him, but to cry for THIER children, then you have to think He was wrong or lying. If there's another logical reason I haven't heard it.

The point I'm making is that I agree these parables are about Israel and the future relationship with God. Many call this the "replacement theory", which I don't agree with. I just like to call it the "plan from the beginning".

Replacement Theory makes it seem like it means that the Jews are "replaced", when that couldn't be further from the truth. I know a TON of Jewish Christians. They are no more "cut off" than anyone else. What I do not agree with is this idea that God has some other way for the Jews in the future. That the current earthly "Israel" that reject and hate Jesus and His people, are still "God's chosen" in the same way. They were "chosen to bring forth the Messiah. Guess what? They did. Now He is the ONLY way and no one comes to the Father but through Him. Just like these parables are saying, the tree didn't produce fruit so was cut down and a new tree was planted. The branches of that tree can be grafted in, but I don't say that in boasting and self righteous arrogance, because my branch can be pruned off still as well. The end of the AGE that Jesus spoke of was the end of the Mosaic sacrificial system. Now "a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God".

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Do you see anything in the timelines in that parable, and anything else with which it may compare that happened after, or before, the timelines in that parable?

MM

It’s not specific to an event parables aren’t like that remember Johns ministry



“He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground? And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung it: and if it bear fruit, well: and if not, then after that thou shalt cut it down.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:6-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what’s the message in this parabolic story ? What’s the story really about ?

“And he began to speak unto them by parables. A certain man planted a vineyard, and set an hedge about it, and digged a place for the winefat, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country

. And at the season he sent to the husbandmen a servant, that he might receive from the husbandmen of the fruit of the vineyard. And they caught him, and beat him, and sent him away empty. ( early prophets )

And again he sent unto them another servant; and at him they cast stones, and wounded him in the head, and sent him away shamefully handled. And again he sent another; and him they killed, and many others; beating some, and killing some.( latter prophets )

Having yet therefore one son, his wellbeloved, he sent him also last unto them, saying, They will reverence my son.”( the dresser of the vineyard who came to save it )
‭‭Mark‬ ‭12:1-6‬ ‭

Remember johns ministry ?

“But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance: and think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those parables hold a message they aren’t about past events but about the story of the relationship between zgod and Israel and how it had come to a point of no return the messiah was the last Hope

In the parable he is the dresser who comes to fertilize and dig around and tend the garden trying to bring. Forth fruit so it’s not hewn down and thrown away . Parables are different from prophecy or straight forward lessons

Aeschylus one holds a narrative based on the relationship between God and mankind

 

[Musicmaster]

There is also another parable that gets even more specific than this, the parable of the wicked tenants. Matthew 21:33-46

33 “Hear another parable. There was a householder who planted a vineyard, and set a hedge around it, and dug a wine press in it, and built a tower, and let it out to tenants, and went into another country. 34 When the season of fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the tenants, to get his fruit; 35 and the tenants took his servants and beat one, killed another, and stoned another. 36 Again he sent other servants, more than the first; and they did the same to them. 37 Afterward he sent his son to them, saying, ‘They will respect my son.’ 38 But when the tenants saw the son, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir; come, let us kill him and have his inheritance.’ 39 And they took him and cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. 40 When therefore the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?” 41 They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death, and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”

42 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the scriptures:

‘The very stone which the builders rejected
has become the head of the corner;
this was the Lord’s doing,
and it is marvelous in our eyes’?

43 Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it.”

45 When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them. 46 But when they tried to arrest him, they feared the multitudes, because they held him to be a prophet.

This is pretty clear down to the Pharisees understanding the He was talking about them. This is also exactly what happen at the end of the AGE that Jesus told them was coming before THAT generation pasted away. That happened within 40 years of when He said it when Rome invaded and torn down the temple, not one brick left on another. It all happened EXACTLY how He said it would, EXACTLY when He said it would and for some reason we have created this "future to us" idea that frankly makes Jesus either wrong or a liar.

He's not, but if you buy into the idea that everything Jesus said would happen "before this (the generation He was speaking to) generation passed away, that he told "there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom", or when He said "When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next, for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes", even strange little things like on the way to the cross when he tells the weeping women not to cry for Him, but to cry for THIER children, then you have to think He was wrong or lying. If there's another logical reason I haven't heard it.

The point I'm making is that I agree these parables are about Israel and the future relationship with God. Many call this the "replacement theory", which I don't agree with. I just like to call it the "plan from the beginning".

Replacement Theory makes it seem like it means that the Jews are "replaced", when that couldn't be further from the truth. I know a TON of Jewish Christians. They are no more "cut off" than anyone else. What I do not agree with is this idea that God has some other way for the Jews in the future. That the current earthly "Israel" that reject and hate Jesus and His people, are still "God's chosen" in the same way. They were "chosen to bring forth the Messiah. Guess what? They did. Now He is the ONLY way and no one comes to the Father but through Him. Just like these parables are saying, the tree didn't produce fruit so was cut down and a new tree was planted. The branches of that tree can be grafted in, but I don't say that in boasting and self righteous arrogance, because my branch can be pruned off still as well. The end of the AGE that Jesus spoke of was the end of the Mosaic sacrificial system. Now "a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God".

Oh, Jimbone, I completely agree with you in that replacement theology is not of God. I'm sure Satan likes for people to believe that Israel has been permanently replaced by the Church. Some of the other parallels you stated are of interest, but I don't see how the timelines in the parable fit the narratives you brought up. Could you elaborate as to how the three years and the one year fit into that?

Thanks

MM

 

[NewLifeInChrist]

Would you show to us a parallel in the Bible where sinners in general are portrayed as an olive tree? This was unexpected, and is a point of curiosity to me.

Thanks

MM

No, I don't feel like that research on my part is needed. When interpreting parables, I try to understand them in the context they were given. In this case, Jesus was addressing a common misunderstanding that people who suffer calamity are being punished by God for their misdeeds and those who do not suffer calamity are less deserving of punishment. His punchline, repeated twice in the back-story, "unless you repent you will all likewise perish" must find it's way into the parable. Saying it is found in the kingdom of God being ripped away from Israel for not receiving their promised Savior does not fit the context, in my opinion.

 

[Musicmaster]

No, I don't feel like that research on my part is needed. When interpreting parables, I try to understand them in the context they were given. In this case, Jesus was addressing a common misunderstanding that people who suffer calamity are being punished by God for their misdeeds and those who do not suffer calamity are less deserving of punishment. His punchline, repeated twice in the back-story, "unless you repent you will all likewise perish" must find it's way into the parable. Saying it is found in the kingdom of God being ripped away from Israel for not receiving their promised Savior does not fit the context, in my opinion.

I agree that it's not about the Kingdom being ripped away from their hands. No. Temporarily suspended, yes, but not ripped from away from them in perpetuity. The Kingdom was promised to Abraham and his descendants, and the Lord is not known to take back His promises made to men who were long since deceased from this world, with those promises made on basis that is no longer alterable because of disobedience.

A tree cut down can still have renewal by way of a new seed, seedling or sapling tree planted to grow up in its place.

Good stuff, but I think there's more...

MM

 

[cv5]

I'm sure there are some out there who have loads of commentaries sitting on their home library shelves within which they can look this up and get some unacquainted scholar's opinion. Some of those commentaries can weight upwards of ten pounds, and still be ten pounds of worthless paper that fails much of the time to measure up to the standard of scriptural truth.

So upon your own personal study in the broadness of your knowledge of scripture, to what events in scripture can this possibly have alluded to dare we think outside the box of religious paradigms?

Luke 13:6-9
6 He spake also this parable; A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none.
7 Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking fruit on this fig tree, and find none: cut it down; why cumbereth it the ground?
8 And he answering said unto him, Lord, let it alone this year also, till I shall dig about it, and dung [it]:
9 And if it bear fruit, [well]: and if not, [then] after that thou shalt cut it down.

MM

Selling of salvation is the key principle in play here.....and also that which is being terminated.
The inclusion of the cursing of the fig tree is essential and must be concatenated with every other fig tree/leaf/fruit reference.

Mar 11:14
In response Jesus said to it, “Let no one eat fruit from you ever again.” And His disciples heard it.

Mar 11:15
So they came to Jerusalem. Then Jesus went into the temple and began to drive out those who bought and sold in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves.

 

[Jimbone]

Oh, Jimbone, I completely agree with you in that replacement theology is not of God. I'm sure Satan likes for people to believe that Israel has been permanently replaced by the Church. Some of the other parallels you stated are of interest, but I don't see how the timelines in the parable fit the narratives you brought up. Could you elaborate as to how the three years and the one year fit into that?

Thanks

MM

I don't understand your question fully. I see the one year thing in the fig tree parable, but am not seeing 3 years in either one. I'm sure I'm just missing, or misunderstanding, but I have to admit I' don't understanding exactly what you're asking. I'd be more than happy to answer if I can, but I just want to make sure I'm answering exactly what you're asking.