Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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NightTwister

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How is Harris responsible for the UCs that didn't appear in 2019-2020, during the Trump administration?
She's responsible for the ones that occurred since Jan 20, 2021. She's responsible for any before then too if they lost track of them after that date.
 

JayBird

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She's responsible for the ones that occurred since Jan 20, 2021. She's responsible for any before then too if they lost track of them after that date.
And by the same token the Trump administration is responsible for the same thing that occurred on their watch.

As the IG report makes clear, it's a problem not specific to one administration.

Trump is currently campaigning on increasing family separation and taking children from their parents, so if one is concerned about keeping children with their families, they should vote accordingly.
 

NightTwister

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And by the same token the Trump administration is responsible for the same thing that occurred on their watch.

As the IG report makes clear, it's a problem not specific to one administration.

Trump is currently campaigning on increasing family separation and taking children from their parents, so if one is concerned about keeping children with their families, they should vote accordingly.
The numbers are completely different. Trump tried to seal that border and the Democrats fought against him every way they could. The Democrats are encouraging everyone to come, including those trafficking people. Now Kamala wants to make them citizens. Trump supports separating children from "supposed" family until it can be confirmed that they truly are. That's how you stop human trafficking. You should vote accordingly.
 

JayBird

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The numbers are completely different.
How so?

Trump tried to seal that border and the Democrats fought against him every way they could. The Democrats are encouraging everyone to come, including those trafficking people. Now Kamala wants to make them citizens. Trump supports separating children from "supposed" family until it can be confirmed that they truly are. That's how you stop human trafficking. You should vote accordingly.
I'm going to assume that you cannot provide any sources or citations for these claims, and that they are just your opinions.

Meanwhile in reality, Biden's Executive Order closed the border, while Trump ordered Republicans to kill immigration reform efforts so he could have something to campaign on. So according to your logic, Trump is facilitating human trafficking.
 

NightTwister

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How so?


I'm going to assume that you cannot provide any sources or citations for these claims, and that they are just your opinions.

Meanwhile in reality, Biden's Executive Order closed the border, while Trump ordered Republicans to kill immigration reform efforts so he could have something to campaign on. So according to your logic, Trump is facilitating human trafficking.
You've cited nothing for yours. This is silly. So again, How much is the Harris campaign paying you?
 

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I'll wait until you tell me how much the Harris campaign is paying your for trolling here.
Isn't it peculiar though that a newbie would have no interest in this site apart from defending Harris?
 

Jimbone

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How so?


I'm going to assume that you cannot provide any sources or citations for these claims, and that they are just your opinions.

Meanwhile in reality, Biden's Executive Order closed the border, while Trump ordered Republicans to kill immigration reform efforts so he could have something to campaign on. So according to your logic, Trump is facilitating human trafficking.
Where are your sources? You make a lot of claims yourself. Where are ANY of your sources smart guy? You define communism, you give a source for every talking point you repeat. You back up every word that comes out of your mouth. I can't stand the "copout" phrases that are used to move past a topic without actually dealing with it. Stop acting like you are making good argument with lies from one end to the other.

Example. You said the economy is doing good. No it's not, I make more than I've ever made in my life yet can barely afford to feed my family. Something I had NO problem at all doing 4 years ago making less. Was saving money. I know the TV will tell you that $100 worth of groceries will now cost $120, but that is a lie. You ever try that Walmart "reorder" button that orders everything from that list. Well if you take an order from 4 years ago and hit reorder, it comes out to a LOT more than 20%. I saw one that was $126.67, now cost $414.39. They tried to "debunk" this saying it was because of discounts and not inflation, but I'm sorry $300 worth of discount is a lie. Everyone I talk to is struggling because of this leadership. You denying it does nothing but make you look like a brainwashed cult member. You can't be reasoned with when you swallow the lies whole and support & repeat the wickedness. You're just dead wrong about the working mans economy. Dead wrong.
 

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Isn't it peculiar though that a newbie would have no interest in this site apart from defending Harris?
No, it's obviously how they are stirring up division this time around, and is EXACTLY what the wicked powers in charge would do.
 

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Where are your sources? You make a lot of claims yourself. Where are ANY of your sources smart guy?
Specify what you want me to provide a source for and I'll be happy to oblige.

You define communism, you give a source for every talking point you repeat. You back up every word that comes out of your mouth.
Thanks! :)

Example. You said the economy is doing good. No it's not, I make more than I've ever made in my life yet can barely afford to feed my family. Something I had NO problem at all doing 4 years ago making less. Was saving money. I know the TV will tell you that $100 worth of groceries will now cost $120, but that is a lie.
You're referring to post-pandemic inflation, which was a global phenomenon, with the US faring much, much better than a lot of other countries. Plus, we've managed to bring inflation down to less than 3% without having to go through a recession, something economists were surprised at.

And please stop the personal attacks.
 

Jimbone

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How so?


I'm going to assume that you cannot provide any sources or citations for these claims, and that they are just your opinions.

Meanwhile in reality, Biden's Executive Order closed the border, while Trump ordered Republicans to kill immigration reform efforts so he could have something to campaign on. So according to your logic, Trump is facilitating human trafficking.
Source for Biden closing the boarder. Please post the proposed policy that was going to "close the boarder". I'm waiting. No just a source that makes this claim, but I want to read in the policy where it says they're closing the boarder. Letting in 1000's of illegal's daily isn't closing the boarder. That's a lie.
 

Jimbone

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Specify what you want me to provide a source for and I'll be happy to oblige.


Thanks! :)


You're referring to post-pandemic inflation, which was a global phenomenon, with the US faring much, much better than a lot of other countries. Plus, we've managed to bring inflation down to less than 3% without having to go through a recession, something economists were surprised at.

And please stop the personal attacks.
It's a compliment right?
So still just empty assertions. So surprising. Also I'm sorry "smart guy" is name calling to you. It was a compliment. Prove it wasn't.
 

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"When all else fails, a total pig-headed unwillingess to look facts in the face will see us through." -General Melchett. Mainly because it describes 90% of this country.
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Yes, I admit that I have no idea who Black Adder is. I see that Rowan Atkinson is a part of the troupe. He's a funny guy.
 

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Between 2019 and 2023, more than 32,000 unaccompanied minors failed to show up for their immigration court hearings, and ICE was “not able to account” for all of their locations, according to a report from the ICE inspector general’s office. Border Czar Kamala Harris is responsible for this.
They cannot all be in John Podesta's basement. But when you include all of his like-minded Democrat cabal, it certainly is possible.
 

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Did they cite a specific policy, EO, regulation, or other material?


Sorry, but the claims don't match up with the actual funding requests or President Biden's subsequent actions, namely closing the border, and negotiating on and supporting the immigration reform bill.

But if you have more info, I'll certainly look at it.
Bannon had officials on explaining prior to the vote why they would vote against it because the funding was not to shut down the immigration, it was to pay for more people to facilitate it. That was the reasoning for not voting for that bill. If you give me the date that they voted against it I will provide links to some of those interviews.
 

JayBird

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Bannon had officials on explaining prior to the vote why they would vote against it because the funding was not to shut down the immigration, it was to pay for more people to facilitate it. That was the reasoning for not voting for that bill. If you give me the date that they voted against it I will provide links to some of those interviews.
The good thing is with things like this, the bill itself is publicly available.

https://www.lankford.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/MCC24166.pdf

From what I've read, it severely rolls back the asylum system, raises the criteria for granting asylum, mandates the closing of the border when crossings get above 5,000 per day between ports of entry, speed up the immigration court system which would speed up deportations and reduce the number of people who just stay illegally, increases detention capacity.

On a related note, did you see this about Steve Bannon? Some of his own employees are admitting that he's been aiding white supremacist terrorists recruit and radicalize people. :oops:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...neo-nazi-terrorist-group-steve-bannon-account