Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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JayBird

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Not true.. no matter what you say,,
What do you think the rate is?

I'm sorry, you may be a good person and all, but I can't just take your word for things like that. If you have info you think I need to consider, please post it. If all you have is "not true" with nothing else, I'll just thank you for your opinion and move on.
 

cv5

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It shows that inflation isn't tied to anything specific to the US, and when comparing how we've managed it versus other countries, we've done extremely well (namely bringing inflation down to less than 3% without going through a recession).
Hey buddy.....why no response to my many fine and entirely educational posts?

ROFL
 

SonJudgment

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The money was Iran's to begin with, and was held frozen in a S. Korean account. After the deal was reached to free American prisoners from Iran, the money was transferred to Qatar where they and the Swiss oversaw it (to ensure it was specifically spent on food, medicine, etc.).


I think supporting our allies is important, especially when we do so in cooperation with our other allies. It's a good way to maintain unity in the face of Russian aggression.
Pretty bad move giving your enemy a bunch of money. Not a great look justifying aiding and abetting an enemy of the USA. Trump tried to redeem the government by cancelling the disastrous Iran Deal but the democrats went right back to it, that's incredibly suspicious.


America does not have an alliance with Ukraine. You could justify giving them some aid, but the amount of the aid given to them, how it has had almsot no battlefield effect, and the timing when the democrats had destroyed America's economy sis an incredibly bad move. It's is in fact insulting that the democrats withheld the Trump stimulus during such a hard time to instead pour hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine The first job of the American government is to take care of its own citizens, a principle Trump udnerstood very well, it's not their job to take care of everyone else's citizens to the detriment of the American citizen.
 

SonJudgment

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Your right, democrats as a party are not communist, or socialist. But they have a group of people within them that are. Sadly, they are the ones running the democrat party right now.
I sort of agree with this. They have some that say they are communist, mostly the naive college students, but they're not really even that. They're just degenerates really trying to be edgy that are easily manipulated by the plain old corrupt higher ups.
 

SonJudgment

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Biden was comprimised. and sadly he was protected by the system, so he could not be impeached.. He had no choice in giving money to China and others. because he did illegal things for them when he was vice president.

Yes, it is pretty obvious he has been a puppet for a while. Really the entire democrat party has gone so far into corruption and wickedness that really their entire group is guilty. They need to be defeated in a big way, this is the only way that they could realistically reform themselves.
 

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SINCE HARRIS TOOK OFFICE

Gas: +50.5%
Electricity: +31.7%
Fuel oil: +49.1%
Airfare: +22.6%
Hotels: +51.2%
Groceries: +21.6%
Eating out: +23%
Baby food: +30.1%
K-12 food: +65.5%
Rent: +22%
Transportation: +32.9%
Car insurance: +54%
Real average weekly earnings: -3.9%
but the economy is so much better..lol
 

JayBird

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Pretty bad move giving your enemy a bunch of money.
How would you have worked to free the Americans that were held in Iran's prisons?

America does not have an alliance with Ukraine.
They are most certainly considered one of our allies.

You could justify giving them some aid, but the amount of the aid given to them, how it has had almsot no battlefield effect, and the timing when the democrats had destroyed America's economy sis an incredibly bad move. It's is in fact insulting that the democrats withheld the Trump stimulus during such a hard time to instead pour hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine The first job of the American government is to take care of its own citizens, a principle Trump udnerstood very well, it's not their job to take care of everyone else's citizens to the detriment of the American citizen.
I don't know what you're talking about with "Democrats destroyed America's economy", since when at the end of the Trump administration the US was tanking, and since President Biden took over America has gained back all the jobs lost under Trump (plus another 6 million jobs), brought inflation back down to pre-pandemic levels without going through a recession, the stock market surged to record highs, wages rose, we made the largest investment in America's infrastructure since the 50's, GDP surged, violent crime plummeted, more Americans have health insurance, corporate profits rose by 30%+
 

Everlasting-Grace

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How would you have worked to free the Americans that were held in Iran's prisons?


They are most certainly considered one of our allies.


I don't know what you're talking about with "Democrats destroyed America's economy", since when at the end of the Trump administration the US was tanking, and since President Biden took over America has gained back all the jobs lost under Trump (plus another 6 million jobs), brought inflation back down to pre-pandemic levels without going through a recession, the stock market surged to record highs, wages rose, we made the largest investment in America's infrastructure since the 50's, GDP surged, violent crime plummeted, more Americans have health insurance, corporate profits rose by 30%+
if there was any more proof needed that this guy does not know what he is talking about here we have it.

He has bought into the media lie.. Things are ten times worse today than when Biden took over. anyone who thinks different needs to get out in the real world.. and talk to everyday people who are struggling..
 

SonJudgment

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How would you have worked to free the Americans that were held in Iran's prisons?


They are most certainly considered one of our allies.


I don't know what you're talking about with "Democrats destroyed America's economy", since when at the end of the Trump administration the US was tanking, and since President Biden took over America has gained back all the jobs lost under Trump (plus another 6 million jobs), brought inflation back down to pre-pandemic levels without going through a recession, the stock market surged to record highs, wages rose, we made the largest investment in America's infrastructure since the 50's, GDP surged, violent crime plummeted, more Americans have health insurance, corporate profits rose by 30%+
The democrats have kept American's economy stagflating badly with their corrupt policies of giving kickbacks tothe megarich and paying out excessive amounts of money to foreign nations, some of which are even our enemies. Their promises of investing in American infrastructure and bringing back jobs are on paper only. The American have not forgotten that it is the democrats that allowed the pandemic to spread by calling Trump racist and demanding he keep the border open with their corrupt benefactors in China. The American people have not forgotten the draconian methods the democrats went to withthe covid measures and all the gaslighting they attempted. By all means though continue to try to gaslight the American people otherwise as if their lives are better under he democrats than they were under Trump, it will only infuriate them against the democrats further andis the best way to get Trump back in office.
 

JayBird

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The democrats have kept American's economy stagflating badly with their corrupt policies of giving kickbacks tothe megarich
If you're against economic policies that favor the rich, how can you support Trump who is promising to give the rich even more tax cuts? Or how he told oil execs that if they just give him a billion dollars, he'll shape policy however they want? Or picked a venture capitalist as his VP? Or stacked his first cabinet with Goldman-Sachs execs?

Their promises of investing in American infrastructure and bringing back jobs are on paper only.
I'm sorry, but huh? Are you actually arguing that no infrastructure projects are being implemented and that the jobs numbers are fake?

The American have not forgotten that it is the democrats that allowed the pandemic to spread by calling Trump racist
Sorry, but again, huh? The virus spread because Dems called Trump racist? o_O
 

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The democrats have kept American's economy stagflating badly with their corrupt policies of giving kickbacks tothe megarich and paying out excessive amounts of money to foreign nations, some of which are even our enemies. Their promises of investing in American infrastructure and bringing back jobs are on paper only. The American have not forgotten that it is the democrats that allowed the pandemic to spread by calling Trump racist and demanding he keep the border open with their corrupt benefactors in China. The American people have not forgotten the draconian methods the democrats went to withthe covid measures and all the gaslighting they attempted. By all means though continue to try to gaslight the American people otherwise as if their lives are better under he democrats than they were under Trump, it will only infuriate them against the democrats further andis the best way to get Trump back in office.
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SonJudgment

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If you're against economic policies that favor the rich, how can you support Trump who is promising to give the rich even more tax cuts? Or how he told oil execs that if they just give him a billion dollars, he'll shape policy however they want? Or picked a venture capitalist as his VP? Or stacked his first cabinet with Goldman-Sachs execs?


I'm sorry, but huh? Are you actually arguing that no infrastructure projects are being implemented and that the jobs numbers are fake?


Sorry, but again, huh? The virus spread because Dems called Trump racist? o_O
Not against policies that favor the rich as long as they also favor the regular people. The truth is Trump was good for the regular people and the rich, Trump was good for everybody and under Trump everybody was upwardly mobile. Under the demcorats on the other hand only their corrupt buddies and foreigners are getting any richer while the American people suffer as a direct consequence of their mismanagement and corruption. The beauty here is the regular people know it too, so the more the democrats attempt to gaslight and lie about it the more it serves two functions in one removing the trust in the democrats to actually fix the problems they cuased since they cannot even acknowledge it, and two gives the common man more of a reason to get Trump back since we know he wil lcertainly fix their problem and he will certainly make the living standard of the common American great again.

Yes the infrastructure bills were a farce, it was just a way for the democrats to corruptly give kickbacks to their megarich friends. We have seen no real restoration of our infrastructure, that money vanished into the pockets of a select few.


Yea we remember that Trump wanted to close the border with China and the democrats made their familiar false claims of racism to keep those borders open and that allowed the virus to spread rapidly. Let's not forget how many of the democrats are in bed with the manufacturing of the virus as well as covering up its origins and release, and all the lengths they went to in the most draconian and corrupt ways possible against the America people with their lockdowns and mask measures which didn't work at all. They spent too much time dividing and vilifying the American people for us to forget too quickly now. Though it is a great thing for them to remind us some more.
 

cv5

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Their promises of investing in American infrastructure and bringing back jobs are on paper only. The American have not forgotten that it is the democrats that allowed the pandemic to spread by calling Trump racist and demanding he keep the border open with their corrupt benefactors in China. The American people have not forgotten the draconian methods the democrats went to withthe covid measures and all the gaslighting they attempted. By all means though continue to try to gaslight the American people otherwise as if their lives are better under he democrats than they were under Trump, it will only infuriate them against the democrats further and is the best way to get Trump back in office.
You possess excellent recall.
No high speed rail. No internet. No positive border action. No nothing.

Just vast giveways to Ukraine while the Big Guy and his cronies make their 10%.

Paul A. Szypula 🇺🇸 on X: "3 years ago, Kamala Harris was appointed Internet Czar to lead the $42 billion upgrade in the US. Since then, not one person has been connected to the internet by any of that money and no projects are underway. https://t.co/JlVlc9bdnA" / X
 

SonJudgment

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I am actualyl surprised Trump and the Republicans don't seize on this point, the big democrat spending bills of the past 4 years are the most naked grifts of all time. Makes all the money blown on Ukraine seem like pennies by comparison. What's more is really all that money went straight into the pockets of a select few too. Trump spent big and that is a bad mark on him, but when Trump spent big he made sure all the American people got a cut of that, which is not the case with the democrats.
 

cv5

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if there was any more proof needed that this guy does not know what he is talking about here we have it.

He has bought into the media lie.. Things are ten times worse today than when Biden took over. anyone who thinks different needs to get out in the real world.. and talk to everyday people who are struggling..
Proof? The proof of who he is and why he is and why he is here.....is so blatantly obvious even the Geico caveman could figure it out.

Same goes for @tedincarolina

Both newbies, both running the same boiler room operation.
 

JayBird

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Not against policies that favor the rich as long as they also favor the regular people.
So how do more tax cuts for the super rich favor regular people?

The truth is Trump was good for the regular people and the rich, Trump was good for everybody and under Trump everybody was upwardly mobile.
Trump was the first President since Hoover to leave office having lost more jobs than when he started.

Under the demcorats on the other hand only their corrupt buddies and foreigners are getting any richer while the American people suffer as a direct consequence of their mismanagement and corruption.
How?

Yes the infrastructure bills were a farce, it was just a way for the democrats to corruptly give kickbacks to their megarich friends. We have seen no real restoration of our infrastructure, that money vanished into the pockets of a select few.
Do you have any support for this claim, or is it your opinion? Because the data clearly shows otherwise.

For example, the Small Business Administration noting that "More Business Applications Filed Under President Biden than Any President in American History".

https://www.sba.gov/article/2024/06...ic-18-million-new-business-applications-filed

The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law authorized more than $5 billion in funding for agriculture, infrastructure and economic development in rural areas.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...mpact-bidenomics-rural-communities-rcna123144

Yea we remember that Trump wanted to close the border with China and the democrats made their familiar false claims of racism to keep those borders open and that allowed the virus to spread rapidly. Let's not forget how many of the democrats are in bed with the manufacturing of the virus as well as covering up its origins and release, and all the lengths they went to in the most draconian and corrupt ways possible against the America people with their lockdowns and mask measures which didn't work at all. They spent too much time dividing and vilifying the American people for us to forget too quickly now. Though it is a great thing for them to remind us some more.
I'm sorry, but without support or citations for those rather extreme claims, I'm not going to just take your word for it.