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Because physical death was unleashed on all humanity as a consequence of Adam's fall. And babies are human beings.
Rom. 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, upon which all sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Rom. 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, upon which all sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
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Death passing upon all had the effect of either making some more careful to arrive at death and judgment in good standing with God, or of pressuring others to take sinful shortcuts to acquiring resources and pleasures before their temporary life expired.
Jesus was to be a member of humanity through Mary, and of divinity through the Holy Spirit.
Jesus was to be a member of humanity through Mary, and of divinity through the Holy Spirit.
Only sin can cause death. If you do not believe they had sinned, what sin caused their death?
The same was true of Jesus. He never sinned, but died. This is the proof that our sins were laid upon Him.
And this is the point Paul is making in Romans 5. There was no law in place between Adam and Moses, yet people were dying. Since there was only 1 human sin accrued at that point, it must have been Adam's sin imputed to them that brought about their deaths.
The same was true of Jesus. He never sinned, but died. This is the proof that our sins were laid upon Him.
And this is the point Paul is making in Romans 5. There was no law in place between Adam and Moses, yet people were dying. Since there was only 1 human sin accrued at that point, it must have been Adam's sin imputed to them that brought about their deaths.
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So, God can sin? He can lie? He can deny himself (his essence, what and who he is)?
Here's the MW Collegiate Definition of "cannot""
Main Entry:can£not
Pronunciation:*ka-(*)n*t; k*-*n*t, ka-*
Date:15th century
: can not
–cannot but or cannot help but also cannot help : to be unable to do otherwise than
So...when I say that man cannot not sin, I'm implying the antithesis to that proposition: Man cannot be [inherently] righteous.
Here's the MW Collegiate Definition of "cannot""
Main Entry:can£not
Pronunciation:*ka-(*)n*t; k*-*n*t, ka-*
Date:15th century
: can not
–cannot but or cannot help but also cannot help : to be unable to do otherwise than
So...when I say that man cannot not sin, I'm implying the antithesis to that proposition: Man cannot be [inherently] righteous.
If Adam's sin is not imputed to all us, then the analogy in Rom 5:12ff. breaks down badly, since the Last Adam's righteousness is imputed to his people. Adam is the federal head of the human race, while the Last Adam is the federal head of his God's chosen, covenant people. It is precisely because the First Adam's sin was imputed to all his progeny that the Last Adam's righteousness must be imputed to God's people. This is what Federal Headship is all about. This is why no one should want to die IN Adam -- their federal head.
Also, being "disconnected from our Creator" is a FATAL condition! Being separated from him means man is separated from spiritual Life itself -- separated (cut off) from the Author of Life. On the day Adam ate and disobeyed, the Spirit of the Living God departed from him, thus he died.
Also, being "disconnected from our Creator" is a FATAL condition! Being separated from him means man is separated from spiritual Life itself -- separated (cut off) from the Author of Life. On the day Adam ate and disobeyed, the Spirit of the Living God departed from him, thus he died.
Look again. It specifically says in Romans 5:12 that all have sinned (See below). Verse 8 also suggests this. In fact other scriptures also point blank say it. Realize that there is a distinction being made in the chapter between sin and trespass. This is most evident in verse 14.
You also need to be careful about not confusing the natural consequences of sin with judgement for trespass, physical death with spiritual death which is related, and origination of source of consequences with totality of source of consequences as it relates to Adam's sin.
To clarify the last of these, just because sin entered the world through Adam, doesn't mean he is the only one who "accrued" sinned. For one thing, you are forgetting, or maybe not understanding about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. The tree was deception - mixing up truth and error. When Adam took the fruit the whole world changed, and everyone down stream has reaped the confusion that followed, which makes it essentially impossible not to sin.
Romans 5:12 NASB1995
"Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— "
Romans 5:14 NIV
"Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come."
Romans 5:8 NIV
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 3:23 NIV
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God..."
Also possibly pertinent:
Romans 6:20-23 NIV
"When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
You also need to be careful about not confusing the natural consequences of sin with judgement for trespass, physical death with spiritual death which is related, and origination of source of consequences with totality of source of consequences as it relates to Adam's sin.
To clarify the last of these, just because sin entered the world through Adam, doesn't mean he is the only one who "accrued" sinned. For one thing, you are forgetting, or maybe not understanding about the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. The tree was deception - mixing up truth and error. When Adam took the fruit the whole world changed, and everyone down stream has reaped the confusion that followed, which makes it essentially impossible not to sin.
Romans 5:12 NASB1995
"Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— "
Romans 5:14 NIV
"Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come."
Romans 5:8 NIV
"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."
Romans 3:23 NIV
"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God..."
Also possibly pertinent:
Romans 6:20-23 NIV
"When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
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Romans 5:12 is telling us that Adam's sin was imputed to us in the same way Christ's righteousness is. Just as Christ is the 2nd Adam and the results of His actions are imputed to us, so too the first Adam's actions imputed something to us.
The reason this is so is because God chose both Adam and Christ to represent the human race. In Adam all died. In Christ all live. The first representative failed. The 2nd did not.
Not to understand the above is the reason many fall into a myriad of divergent doctrine. There is simply no way a child could die apart from sin because sin causes death. If children do die, and we know that they do, it can only be that sin has been laid to their account.
The reason this is so is because God chose both Adam and Christ to represent the human race. In Adam all died. In Christ all live. The first representative failed. The 2nd did not.
Not to understand the above is the reason many fall into a myriad of divergent doctrine. There is simply no way a child could die apart from sin because sin causes death. If children do die, and we know that they do, it can only be that sin has been laid to their account.
Technically speaking if Peter explained in Acts chapter 2 that if you become saved then the generations after you will be saved it would be the same for those who reject God. Their generations after would not be protected by God but due to generational sin be subjected to what we see many times with birth defects, death, or even child illness. So if we're going by the BIBLE, it's generational sin and not specifically their own sin.
Paul says in Romans 9 that -
9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Adam's sin caused their death. It is not necessary for Adam's sin to be imputed to a child for the child to die. The child can be prone to death despite being sinless, simply because he is a descendant of Adam.
If I say that the person who murders will go to prison, that does not mean that everyone who goes to prison must be a murderer. Saying that the soul that sins will die, does not mean that anyone who dies must have sinned.
9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
Adam's sin caused their death. It is not necessary for Adam's sin to be imputed to a child for the child to die. The child can be prone to death despite being sinless, simply because he is a descendant of Adam.
If I say that the person who murders will go to prison, that does not mean that everyone who goes to prison must be a murderer. Saying that the soul that sins will die, does not mean that anyone who dies must have sinned.