Preparation vs prevention

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JTB

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Everlasting-Grace said:
so MAGA is angry and this is wrong?

I think they have a right to be angry considered what has been pushed on them the last three years.. Even Jesus got angry and overturned tables when they used his fathers house as a den of thieves.
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It's been going on for way more than 3 years. The libs have been pushing their godless agenda for decades.

And that's the enemy's plan. To create an evil so heinous on the left, that believers will swallow any lie the right puts forth.

The enemy of our enemy is NOT our friend.

The left deceives the world, the right deceives believers.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Sure it's real, but it's also illegal. But random businesses price gouging doesn't raise prices across an industry, only in a locality. It generally happens when there has been a catastrophe and is short term.
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So, we have obviously been in a state of inflation/price gouging here in the US.

But so has the whole world.

Do US libs really control prices across the entire world?
 
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JTB said:
So, we have obviously been in a state of inflation/price gouging here in the US.

But so has the whole world.

Do US libs really control prices across the entire world?
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Inflation yes. Price gouging no.
 
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JTB said:
It's been going on for way more than 3 years. The libs have been pushing their godless agenda for decades.

And that's the enemy's plan. To create an evil so heinous on the left, that believers will swallow any lie the right puts forth.

The enemy of our enemy is NOT our friend.

The left deceives the world, the right deceives believers.
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Thats ok, MAGA is not really the right. the far right rejects MAGA also.

But hey, you go vote for whoever you think will best benefit you and your family. And I will do the same
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
The banks are the problem. they keep giving people loans they can't afford..

If people stop buying, prices will come down. but people are too greedy.
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Some banks. And they do so because the government has used the taxpayer's money to bail them out. Until good behavior is incentivized and bad behavior is punished, no reason to expect a change.
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
The banks are the problem. they keep giving people loans they can't afford..

If people stop buying, prices will come down. but people are too greedy.
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Gotta agree with you on this one :)
 
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Cameron143 said:
Some banks. And they do so because the government has used the taxpayer's money to bail them out. Until good behavior is incentivized and bad behavior is punished, no reason to expect a change.
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Agree with this too! :)

(You make it hard to argue when you make agreeable statements like this lol)
 
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Everlasting-Grace said:
But hey, you go vote for whoever you think will best benefit you and your family. And I will do the same
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On the surface I have no problem with this.

The issue is, all them prophesies that say false prophets/teachers/leaders will come claiming God's Name, while in reality leading them away from His ways. And Jesus' statement that some will go so far as to walk away from Him.

MAGA/Republicans are claiming God's Name. Yet look at all the ways they are actually going against His will:

Mammon worship
Cheating workers
Immorality
Abandoning the poor, sick, and foreign
Self idolatry
Embracing lies and deceptions
Hypocrisy

Look at the Fruit of the Spirit:

Love
Joy
Peace
Patience
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self -control

I don't see much of than in Maga circles. They HATE their enemies. They threaten civil war. They are not gentle in what they preach. They're a mob out of control.

And I'll bring us back to the subject of the OP:

God told us how it will be in the end. Did He then tell us to 1) try and stop it, or 2) prepare for it.

Just like the Jews calling for a King, Christians today are looking for an earthly ruler to save them from the evils of he godless left.

How did that work out for the Jews? Do you really expect it to work out for us?

Learn from the past. Learn from prophesy.

No earthly king will save us from what is coming, and indeed is already here. And you're deceived if you think one will.
 
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JTB said:
You're right.

Price gouging is a republican thing
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Price gouging has nothing to do with one's party affiliation. And it can only occur when there is an immediate and dramatic shortage due to catastrophic events. For example, when a hurricane causes power outages and people need ice to keep their groceries from spoiling. If a store sells ice for $8 a bag instead of the normal $2 a bag, that is price gouging. If a company has an increase in the costs of producing their product and raises their prices to cover their costs, that is not price gouging.
In a free market system we are protected from companies charging excessive rates because of competition. This is the reason monopolies are illegal.
 
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JTB said:
On the surface I have no problem with this.

The issue is, all them prophesies that say false prophets/teachers/leaders will come claiming God's Name, while in reality leading them away from His ways. And Jesus' statement that some will go so far as to walk away from Him.

MAGA/Republicans are claiming God's Name. Yet look at all the ways they are actually going against His will:

Mammon worship
Cheating workers
Immorality
Abandoning the poor, sick, and foreign
Self idolatry
Embracing lies and deceptions
Hypocrisy
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You are grossly misinformed

Look at the Fruit of the Spirit:

Love
Joy
Peace
Patience
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self -control

I don't see much of than in Maga circles. They HATE their enemies. They threaten civil war. They are not gentle in what they preach. They're a mob out of control.
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Again, you are grossly misinformed.

What war broke out when trump was shot? What riots did you see, what evil did you see?

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And I'll bring us back to the subject of the OP:

God told us how it will be in the end. Did He then tell us to 1) try and stop it, or 2) prepare for it.

Just like the Jews calling for a King, Christians today are looking for an earthly ruler to save them from the evils of he godless left.

How did that work out for the Jews? Do you really expect it to work out for us?

Learn from the past. Learn from prophesy.

No earthly king will save us from what is coming, and indeed is already here. And you're deceived if you think one will.[/QUOTE]
again, You vote for whoever you want,

I will vote MAGA
 
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JTB said:
1. Rich people don't create jobs, consumers do.
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Consumers do make jobs; however, the ones doing those jobs that consumers want done are usually businesses that work out the logistics of getting things done to meet consumer demand. Those logistics usually include dividing a job into smaller jobs effectively multiplying the number of jobs.
JTB said:
2. Stuffing the pockets of the rich in hopes it will trickle down is like giving 1 dog 10 bones, expecting he'll share them with 9 other dogs.
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I don't see many people working for free, that's for sure... but what do you mean by "stuffing the pockets of the rich"? If you're talking about Government redistribution of wealth to the rich then we certainly agree. But if you mean that not taxing them into oblivion is somehow "stuffing their pockets", that's insane.
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3. If a company raises prices but their profits remain the same, that's inflation. If a company raises prices and their profits rise, that profiteering.
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If profits don't go up during inflation; then real profits are actually going down. Just like real wages went down and the value of cash savings went down. That business will stagnate; and the employees will start looking for another business that can pay their wages adjusted for inflation. Now, if they make disproportionately huge profits, and never raise wages with inflation, then sure- that's profiteering.
 
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JTB said:
The neighbors held a republican meeting the other night. I went and found that there was no food, even tho it was held at suppertime. So I suggested we call for a pizza. Everyone agreed, so I took the initiative, collected money from the others and made the call. When the pizza came it was cut into 10 slices. Since I spearheaded the effort, I was first at the table. I took 9 slices. Everyone else b!tched and moaned an complained that I didn't leave enough for them. I had to laugh, and said I thought this was a group of republicans, not a bunch of whiney liberals!
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Good; that's what they get for falling for a communist ploy.
 
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JTB said:
The neighbors held a republican meeting the other night. I went and found that there was no food, even tho it was held at suppertime. So I suggested we call for a pizza. Everyone agreed, so I took the initiative, collected money from the others and made the call. When the pizza came it was cut into 10 slices. Since I spearheaded the effort, I was first at the table. I took 9 slices. Everyone else b!tched and moaned an complained that I didn't leave enough for them. I had to laugh, and said I thought this was a group of republicans, not a bunch of whiney liberals!
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I Hope this was a joke.

Because what you did is exactly what MOST republicans are fighting against.

The government takes your money, then gives it to oh lets see, Illegals, Ukraine, People that do not work. Children to have their sex organs cut off. etc etc.

You know. what the government run by the communist liberals have been doing for the last three years

I mean what you did would make sense if it was a liberal party you joined, But a republican party?
 
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