Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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He is not nearly so grand and glorious as he holds himself up to be. He's a liar. He's a fornicator. He claims that he's never needed God's forgiveness. Just that alone causes me to question why believers would think that he's some greater person than anyone else.
Yeah I keep hearing the left saying he's a liar, but it's kinda hard to hear them over their own LIES!! Biden couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. I posted all kinds of major lies he's told. I don't believe Trump is a liar. Biden is a fornicator, someone came out and said they had gay sex with Obama and I don't know if it's been debunked but it was said love letters were found he wrote talking about wanting to be with men. John Mc Cain admitted to being unfaithful to his wife and Clinton fornicated IN THE WH !! And Christians voted for all of them!! I don't believe the porn star story nor do I believe the one that just "won" her case. She's a silly idiot and I hope he fights against it.

He believe, honestly believes and understands in his mind that denigrating and disrespecting people is how you get things done. I'm sorry, but there is nothing godly in that. In fact, God's word says that we give everyone the respect and honor that they are due.
Well, he's been given no respect. He's treated like he's a fool, an utter simpleton. As I said to one such person who started in on me with that junk, "what do you do for a living? I continued to point out what Trump has accomplished in his lifetime. Then finished, " and what have you done?!" The conversation was quickly over. He's mocked by tv journalists who are bought and paid for by the WH, he's mocked about everything about him, even the color of his skin. Like Hollywood isn't completely orange. smh Trump is trying to defend himself. I understand it. I wish he would stop and realize it's just trash that are talking about him and they don't deserve a second of his time. Like the "women" of the view. The one that calls herself Joy claimed to be a "good Christian" and yet has been sleeping with a man she isn't married to for years. She's no one to be pointing fingers at anyone!

Now, let's look at VP Harris and the type of person that she is. She's only been married once. So, on the matter of a godly marriage, that puts here ahead of the GOP contender.
She had a well known relationship with Willie Brown, mayor of San Fran. He was not divorced from his wife at the time. Otherwise known as fornication.

Now, whether she tells lies or not is always going to be seen differently by different folks, but for me, I don't think I've heard anything near the amount of lying that I hear from the GOP contender.
So while she likely isn't perfect in her abilities at being truthful, I find that her words are more reliable than his.
Are you serious right now??? She lied to the entire country for 4 yrs!! She said that there was nothing wrong with Biden. That may be a bigger lie than any of them told! She's lying now about being border czar! She's changed just about every POV she had and is reinventing herself as we speak! Oh, you better believe she lies. Huge lies!



She is able to work with others fairly well. Yes, she's had those in her past that have had issues, but then, if you've read about those who have been aligned with the GOP contender, about 80% of the people who have ever worked with him have some fairly derogatory stories to tell about him and his attitude towards others.
She is not able to work well with others, that is patently false. She had more than issues, we all know, we all saw.

Despite the fact that people say they don't want a politician, there is something to be gained by having experience with the system,
She has no experience with the system. She was a DEI hire. She got 2% of the vote, and called her future boss a racist! smh Remember, " No, I've never been to the border but I've never been to the moon in June on a yellow school bus either"!! Give me a serious break.

The GOP contender, even now, is trying to sell you the idea that now that he's had four years of experience, now he knows how to get things done.
Yeah, then he took those 4yrs and proved he knew how to get things done.

Now, I doubt that, but my point is that he himself admits now that he didn't have any idea what he was doing or how our government works. I mean, I still chuckle over his early comment after just becoming president and making his one feeble stab to wipe out the ACA with his new and glorious health plan, which as far as anyone knows doesn't exist, and saying, "who knew that healthcare could be so difficult?"
Well, if he had been awake and aware when the present healthcare plan was passed, he should have known how difficult passing a healthcare plan would be. Yet his own words condemn him that he had no idea. He honestly thought that he could just walk into the office on day one and just wipe it all away. Not the performance of someone who knows how our governmental system works.
He did a dang site more than Biden and he did/ will do more than Kammy. Healthcare would have been done if Mc Cain hadn't decided to vote with his real party. He was a RINO.



So, for me, on demeanor, Harris wins.
Harris has done nothing her entire time in office except give word salads, scream about abortion and giggle. Wait till she has to defend herself and see what her demeanor is then. Someone who does nothing doesn't need a demeanor until her "record" is challenged.


For me, on honesty, Harris wins.
Well that's your blind spot, not fact. She lied to the country about Biden for four years. She's lying now saying she wasn't the border czar and more will come when she's pinned with her record, watch and see.

For me, on experience in working within the confines and laws of our nation, Harris wins.
She is less experienced than Hillary, and that's saying something. You don't brag about being tough on crime and putting black men in jail and then joke about how much you smoke weed. Only a moron does that.


I'm just not willing to put some bully that can't respect others as the leader of my nation. You're free to vote for him if you like. I mean this is America where everyone gets a vote. But my vote will be for the person I feel is the most mature and experienced for the job. Harris wins.
Well for my vote as a born again Christian, I'm not going to vote nor can a Christian or Catholic explain to me why they would vote for a woman who is radical on abortion, who LIES about book banning when she knows it's about the promotion of gay sex and trans. Who LIES and says Trump will be a dictator day one, knowing full well that's not what was said. I don't see how a Christian could vote for a woman who stood behind BLM and helped bail them out of jail and said they shouldn't stop what they were doing. I'll give you this though the broad does have a talent of failing upward. Two weeks ago Dems where trying to figure out how to dump her, now shes the best thing since .... coconuts.




And of course, my final word would be that the GOP contender had a four year term. Were all these problems not there when he was in office?
No!


Did we not have just as much sexual immorality while he was the leader? I mean, how hypocritical can it be to think that someone as immoral as he, can set the nation back on some moral track that you think we need to get on.
Already proved he's no more immoral than any other president that Christians recently voted into office.
 

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Ted is another Leftist plant on a Christian forum. Don't even bother with his lies and baloney.

Thanks, more and more evidence is leading that way as I read. Anyone who says they can't see any Marxist trend in the radical left is deaf and blind, or choose to overlook it.
 

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Thanks, more and more evidence is leading that way as I read. Anyone who says they can't see any Marxist trend in the radical left is deaf and blind, or choose to overlook it.
Or have already gone full-Communist. While the Communists have departed from Communism, the Western idiots have choses to go full-Marxist.
 

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They are criminals. That's a big part of the problem.
The Biden Crime Family hijacked America, and made sure that hardened criminals were free to commit more heinous crimes with no consequences. The DOJ, FBI, DHS, etc have all become lawless. And Kamala Harris is totally complicit in everything that Joe Biden has done. Only she is even worse.

The great danger facing America right now is that the Democrats will also steal the next election because the RINOs did nothing about election fraud all this time (actually since Trump became president). The fraud will be even greater because huge numbers of illegal invaders have been given phony IDs to go and vote. They also received royal treatment when they entered, as an added bonus. So -- in effect -- the US taxpayer has funded election fraud in 2024.

This should be of great concern to Trump and Vance, but I have yet to hear how they will deal with this at this late date. And it does not matter who the Democratic contender is. The focus should not be on clueless "low IQ" Kamala, but on the "election fraud organization" of the Left.
 

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Thanks, more and more evidence is leading that way as I read. Anyone who says they can't see any Marxist trend in the radical left is deaf and blind, or choose to overlook it.
The Biden Crime Family hijacked America, and made sure that hardened criminals were free to commit more heinous crimes with no consequences. The DOJ, FBI, DHS, etc have all become lawless. And Kamala Harris is totally complicit in everything that Joe Biden has done. Only she is even worse.

The great danger facing America right now is that the Democrats will also steal the next election because the RINOs did nothing about election fraud all this time (actually since Trump became president). The fraud will be even greater because huge numbers of illegal invaders have been given phony IDs to go and vote. They also received royal treatment when they entered, as an added bonus. So -- in effect -- the US taxpayer has funded election fraud in 2024.

This should be of great concern to Trump and Vance, but I have yet to hear how they will deal with this at this late date. And it does not matter who the Democratic contender is. The focus should not be on clueless "low IQ" Kamala, but on the "election fraud organization" of the Left.

It goes deeper than Biden. The whole administrative state is unconstitutional. And these presidents and others that decide they can go against the USC and national laws are criminals who know they can test the courts and it can take years to resolve. The whole executive order system has gotten out of control and the first one I recall hearing a lot about doing this extensively was obama with his fundamental change.

Lawlessness is pervasive and has been for some time.
 

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Yeah I keep hearing the left saying he's a liar, but it's kinda hard to hear them over their own LIES!!
That is called "projection". No one has quoted a single lie from Trump. And no one in the MSM has exposed any of the Leftist lies, because the media themselves have been lying to the American people.

Why did SCOTUS refuse to look at the evidence for election fraud in 2020? They could have easily exposed the so-called lies had they investigated this matter as was their duty to the Republic. And why did Bill Barr lie about the matter when he could have produced solid evidence that there was no election fraud? Why did 17 states file a lawsuit about this if it was all lies?

Trump did not work closely with Sidney Powell and made several mistakes, and Sidney made several mistakes also. The whole thing became a fiasco because someone capable enough to put a complete "FRAUD PACKAGE" together was not hired by Trump. Giuliani was definitely not the person to be involved.
 

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Only A Complete Idiot Would Support Kamala Harris
Speaks in circles. She won't do interviews. She refuses to debate Donald Trump -- all while the financial system unravels and geopolitical tensions boil over.

Kamala Harris has a horrible track record. She speaks in circles. She can’t lock down on who she is and where she stands on the Democrat’s Marxist policies. As the world enters the brink of total destruction due to Globalist subversion, only a complete idiot would support Kamala Harris to [ruin] their lives for the next four years.

Only A Complete Idiot Would Support Kamala Harris (infowars.com)
 

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Only A Complete Idiot Would Support Kamala Harris
Speaks in circles. She won't do interviews. She refuses to debate Donald Trump -- all while the financial system unravels and geopolitical tensions boil over.

Kamala Harris has a horrible track record. She speaks in circles. She can’t lock down on who she is and where she stands on the Democrat’s Marxist policies. As the world enters the brink of total destruction due to Globalist subversion, only a complete idiot would support Kamala Harris to [ruin] their lives for the next four years.

Only A Complete Idiot Would Support Kamala Harris (infowars.com)
Oh, so now you are saying she has a good chance to win the election? We need a poll to find out exactly what percent of this country "are complete idiots", probably the same percentage that went along with mask mandates without question and screamed at anyone not vaccinated as threatening their lives. Hmmm, this is going to be a nail biter of an election.
 

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Oh, so now you are saying she has a good chance to win the election?
If you can steal the election and get away with it, you have a 100% chance of "winning". There is no more winning or losing since that only applies to FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. Now there is either stealing or being stolen from.
 

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If you can steal the election and get away with it, you have a 100% chance of "winning". There is no more winning or losing since that only applies to FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. Now there is either stealing or being stolen from.

Interesting dynamics at this point. Law vs. lawlessness. It always seems to be the same issue in the world. Then came Christ and in Him those who by His Spirit would be conformed to His likeness and keep LAW naturally as they matured in Him. And then we look around and wonder how anyone can think there will ever be order apart from His absolute standards. The world swings back and forth between tyranny and anarchy. Can we guess what part of the swing we are in now?
 

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If you can steal the election and get away with it, you have a 100% chance of "winning". There is no more winning or losing since that only applies to FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS. Now there is either stealing or being stolen from.
oh, so then the day of the Lord is here because it comes as a thief in the night. Don't bury the lead.
 

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oh, so then the day of the Lord is here because it comes as a thief in the night. Don't bury the lead.
Who said anything about the Day of the LORD? If you think this is humorous, think again. When the Day of the LORD comes all nations (including the USA) will be under severe divine judgments.
 

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Who said anything about the Day of the LORD? If you think this is humorous, think again. When the Day of the LORD comes all nations (including the USA) will be under severe divine judgments.
Relax, Joel tells us exactly when the day of the Lord is at hand, so we will get a heads up. Basically some kind of mutant bug probably made in a lab will invade the whole earth causing a worldwide shutdown, it will go everywhere, even the Whitehouse. But the global shutdown will be God declaring a fast so that people can pray and repent. He will even shut down the churches to really make sure all the ones who Know God will get the message. I know it sounds incredible, but when you see that happen then we'll all know that the day of the Lord is at hand.
 

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Ted is another Leftist plant on a Christian forum. Don't even bother with his lies and baloney.
What Michael Moore is at it again?

 

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Relax, Joel tells us exactly when the day of the Lord is at hand, so we will get a heads up. Basically some kind of mutant bug probably made in a lab will invade the whole earth causing a worldwide shutdown, it will go everywhere, even the Whitehouse. But the global shutdown will be God declaring a fast so that people can pray and repent. He will even shut down the churches to really make sure all the ones who Know God will get the message. I know it sounds incredible, but when you see that happen then we'll all know that the day of the Lord is at hand.
Also we know that during the start of the tribulation Israel will be doing oblations and sacrifices, they can't do that until they find a Red Heifer that can be sacrificed, so relax, without a certified red heifer ready for sacrifice they can't do that. The Red Heifer has to be three years old before it can be sacrificed so you'll definitely get a heads up.
 

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Also we know that during the start of the tribulation Israel will be doing oblations and sacrifices, they can't do that until they find a Red Heifer that can be sacrificed, so relax, without a certified red heifer ready for sacrifice they can't do that. The Red Heifer has to be three years old before it can be sacrificed so you'll definitely get a heads up.
Also, the Antichrist must "strengthen" a seven year covenant that "the many" made. I think it is very reasonable that we'll see a seven year covenant made by the UN. But what are the chances of that? There is no such thing as a "seven year peace covenant" or "seven year covenant allowing Israel to build the temple", who in their right mind would agree to that. A seven year covenant that all the nations of the earth sign? Probably never happened in the entire history of the earth, except of course for Agenda 2030 which the UN ratified last year. But no one pays attention to that, they only agreed to it in hopes others would keep it. No, if you want the countries to keep that agenda you will have to strengthen it with a worldwide digital currency where you can control everything that people buy and sell.

So what are the odds for a covenant being made that no one has ever seen before in human history 1:100? Then in addition to have certified red heifer? Israel finds those about once every 400 years. So 1:400. Add to that you need this worldwide shutdown due to some weird bug made in a lab? 1:1000. And you'll need all three happening at the same time = 1/100x400x1,000 = 1/400,000,000. You'd have better chances winning the lottery.
 

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