Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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Tamarisk

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Smoke said:
Perhaps the most obvious one...

Harris slams GOP critics of Biden’s age: ‘They have nothing to run on’

“So why are they doing it?” she said, referring to Republicans bashing Biden’s age. “Because they have nothing to run on. They have nothing to run on.”

“Sadly, there is a push from so many people in that lane to try to divide our country and distract from the real issues,” she said during an appearance on ABC’s “The View.”

“We have a president in Joe Biden, who is forward thinking in a way that we’ve not seen in a long time,” the vice president said.

In a statement this past Nov.: “I spend a whole lot of time with our president. … I will tell you that he is in front of often everyone in the room in terms of thinking about how we can resolve issues …”

If every one of those statements were to be true, I would ask you why is Biden not running for reelection suddenly? Does this mean Democrats don't want "forward thinkers" and effective leaders like Biden anymore?
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President Biden made a Decision not to accept his parties nomination, and that’s his choice. It doesn’t say anything about his in ability or inability to be president. And Harris has double down on those statements since he Endorsed her as the party nominee. She still believes he’s a good president and he’s doing a good job.
 
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Tamarisk said:
President Biden made a Decision not to accept his parties nomination, and that’s his choice. It doesn’t say anything about his in ability or inability to be president. And Harris has double down on those statements since he Endorsed her as the party nominee. She still believes he’s a good president and he’s doing a good job.
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Did you see the presidential debate?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Did you see the presidential debate?
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Why bother? The person is saying that Biden can campaign for president, win the delegates necessary to be the candidate and then withdraw and hand the nomination over to someone who has not won a single delegate and it does not in any way mean they are incapable of being president! So what this was just a huge scam they were running on the Democrats? They wanted to switch out Harris for Biden but knew she wouldn't win any votes so they did it this way?

Either Biden is incapable of being president or he is a criminal committing fraud. Those are the two options.

There are other options that are even less favorable to him. For example, perhaps he was involved in the assassination attempt on Trump. When it failed both he and the director of the Secret Service needed to quit.
 
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ZNP said:
Why bother? The person is saying that Biden can campaign for president, win the delegates necessary to be the candidate and then withdraw and hand the nomination over to someone who has not won a single delegate and it does not in any way mean they are incapable of being president! So what this was just a huge scam they were running on the Democrats? They wanted to switch out Harris for Biden but knew she wouldn't win any votes so they did it this way?

Either Biden is incapable of being president or he is a criminal committing fraud. Those are the two options.

There are other options that are even less favorable to him. For example, perhaps he was involved in the assassination attempt on Trump. When it failed both he and the director of the Secret Service needed to quit.
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I'm actually trying to understand how people come to such inane positions, but your assessment is spot on.
 
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Tamarisk said:
President Biden made a Decision not to accept his parties nomination, and that’s his choice. It doesn’t say anything about his in ability or inability to be president. And Harris has double down on those statements since he Endorsed her as the party nominee. She still believes he’s a good president and he’s doing a good job.
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Tragically, you actually think that these two characters are right honorable and batting for your team.
The Soviet propaganda networks had a similar effect on the populace. Other than for a few wise guys that ended up in the gulags or whacked.

Just to let you know, they tried to do the gulag/whacked treatment on Trump.
Same old story: Wise guy. Big mouth. Upsetting the apple cart. Tried to lock him up and throw away the key. Almost dead.

“We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.”

― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
 
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ZNP said:
Why bother? The person is saying that Biden can campaign for president, win the delegates necessary to be the candidate and then withdraw and hand the nomination over to someone who has not won a single delegate and it does not in any way mean they are incapable of being president! So what this was just a huge scam they were running on the Democrats? They wanted to switch out Harris for Biden but knew she wouldn't win any votes so they did it this way?

Either Biden is incapable of being president or he is a criminal committing fraud. Those are the two options.

There are other options that are even less favorable to him. For example, perhaps he was involved in the assassination attempt on Trump. When it failed both he and the director of the Secret Service needed to quit.
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Good calls buddy. All of them.
 
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Tamarisk said:
President Biden made a Decision not to accept his parties nomination, and that’s his choice. It doesn’t say anything about his in ability or inability to be president. And Harris has double down on those statements since he Endorsed her as the party nominee. She still believes he’s a good president and he’s doing a good job.
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Just to let you know:

The term "Progressive left" has exacting equivalency to "communist".

In fact "Progressive left" was the description that the Bolsheviks attributed to their own selves and movement.
Furthermore, the doctrines of each are perfectly correlated, with matching counterparts.
 
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Tamarisk said:
President Biden made a Decision not to accept his parties nomination, and that’s his choice. It doesn’t say anything about his in ability or inability to be president. And Harris has double down on those statements since he Endorsed her as the party nominee. She still believes he’s a good president and he’s doing a good job.
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You're being 100% bad faith in this response. You know the reason why Biden dropped out is because the world saw how badly his cognitive decline really is, which yielded polls showing he virtually didn't have a way to win. To pretend like this has nothing to do with his inability to be president, is absolute cognitive dissonance.

I would even argue this is one of the few things Democrats and Republicans mutually agree on as well... Just not you for some reason. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
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Smoke said:
Perhaps the most obvious one...

Harris slams GOP critics of Biden’s age: ‘They have nothing to run on’

“So why are they doing it?” she said, referring to Republicans bashing Biden’s age. “Because they have nothing to run on. They have nothing to run on.”

“Sadly, there is a push from so many people in that lane to try to divide our country and distract from the real issues,” she said during an appearance on ABC’s “The View.”

“We have a president in Joe Biden, who is forward thinking in a way that we’ve not seen in a long time,” the vice president said.

In a statement this past Nov.: “I spend a whole lot of time with our president. … I will tell you that he is in front of often everyone in the room in terms of thinking about how we can resolve issues …”

If every one of those statements were to be true, I would ask you why is Biden not running for reelection suddenly? Does this mean Democrats don't want "forward thinkers" and effective leaders like Biden anymore?
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They not only want forward thinkers they now have one who is younger.
 
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ZNP said:
Why bother? The person is saying that Biden can campaign for president, win the delegates necessary to be the candidate and then withdraw and hand the nomination over to someone who has not won a single delegate and it does not in any way mean they are incapable of being president! So what this was just a huge scam they were running on the Democrats? They wanted to switch out Harris for Biden but knew she wouldn't win any votes so they did it this way?

Either Biden is incapable of being president or he is a criminal committing fraud. Those are the two options.

There are other options that are even less favorable to him. For example, perhaps he was involved in the assassination attempt on Trump. When it failed both he and the director of the Secret Service needed to quit.
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No one is forced to run for president. At any given time, Trump can choose to resign from the race as well and then you will have to do something similar. Maybe you guys can pick JD Vance.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Did you see the presidential debate?
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Yes It was awful. And I believe he did the right thing by stepping down from the campaign.

Now Trump needs to do The right thing and step down because of his age and senility. We don’t need an old senile president. Trump made that case very clearly when he was running against Biden.
 
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You're being 100% bad faith in this response. You know the reason why Biden dropped out is because the world saw how badly his cognitive decline really is, which yielded polls showing he virtually didn't have a way to win. To pretend like this has nothing to do with his inability to be president, is absolute cognitive dissonance.

I would even argue this is one of the few things Democrats and Republicans mutually agree on as well... Just not you for some reason. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
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No, this isn’t in bad faith because I always I’m Very transparent about the fact that I believe that Biden should’ve never been the president and that the 25th amendment should be enacted right now and Harris should take over.

Here’s the thing when you present me with statements, like that, I have to take them at face value and take that person’s word for it until I have absolutely proof to the Contrary. And although I watched the debate, just like you, I’m not a professional, and cannot say for sure that my beliefs about the 25th amendment and it’s a necessity is accurate.

You’r expecting me to mind read, and read into other peoples comments based on my own opinions, which is in bad faith.
 
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Once more. Not voting for Trump IS NOT voting for Harris. Or any other Democratic Nominee.
None of the above is a vote in itself.

Most important is to vote for one's Senator, Member of the House. These Branches can pretty much handcuff a President from accomplishing their Agenda intoto.
 
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wolfwint said:
We cant stop it. It is the Lords Plan for the world.
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I am so glad that Christians didn't have that POV during the Holocaust!! We never could stop it, the world will never "get better", that doesn't mean we sit down and fold our hands and wait to die!! If that's your POV why pray? Why have church? Why ask for God's help in anything? Just sit down, let the enemy take over and watch your family starve to death beside you. Sorry that is an apathetic view.
 
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Tamarisk said:
No one is forced to run for president. At any given time, Trump can choose to resign from the race as well and then you will have to do something similar. Maybe you guys can pick JD Vance.
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Tell that to the donors. they will love to know that.

But to be fair to Biden he is going through a lot of wild changes including a massive growth spurt. Quite amazing really.

 
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ZNP said:
Tell that to the donors. they will love to know that.

But to be fair to Biden he is going through a lot of wild changes including a massive growth spurt. Quite amazing really.

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In the end the real issue is who gets the Democrats nomination, does Joe Biden get to decide or do the voters get to decide?
 
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Tamarisk said:
Yes It was awful. And I believe he did the right thing by stepping down from the campaign.

Now Trump needs to do The right thing and step down because of his age and senility. We don’t need an old senile president. Trump made that case very clearly when he was running against Biden.
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Trump is senile? I thought you said you saw the debate.
 
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I am advocating that anyone who would like to raise their child in the teaching and admonition of the Lord to homeschool. I am agreeing that there is no way for public school as it is now established to be trusted to teach your children.
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My nephews were in a Christian school, my BIL had a plane and he thought that more important than the boys staying in school. We had the boys that weekend and when I found out I literally cried. I didn't have enough money to help or I would have. I was so upset.

The other day hubby and I were out driving with my youngest nephew, my sister and my mother. A discussion came up about my oldest nephew's wife who best friend is gay. As we were talking I heard my nephew say "well, gay people are good people". And the discussion went on. I stopped everyone and said to my nephew who is 16, "I have to correct you.The point is not whether a gay person is good or bad person. The point is they are lost, they are bound in sin and it is up to us to show them the truth. You don't have to be hateful, but if you care about people who are not saved, you will tell them the truth before they are lost forever". My BIL sold the plane not long after pulling his boys out of a Christian school. What was more important?
 
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