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know1

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Good question but still moot.

Since people are simply presenting claims without evidence, my thoughts are the claims are without merit and move on.

I would love to witness a miraculous event or even learn of a proven one.

That would be a good question to ponder.
Don't worry about seeing a miracle because you will never see one you believe. You will just come up with another reason as to why it's not possible or that was not of God or the proof wasn't good enough, etc etc etc.
There were even some who watched Jesus ascend into heaven that still could not believe, and that was because, they were none of his.
Again, it is written, and these signs shall follow them that believe. And that is one reason why you will not see any of the miracles you say you need to see proof before you believe.
It is for the believers only, not the doubters.
 

Eli1

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"Test"???

Since you know my "own test", could you tell me what it is?
Your so-called test is the method you have in your head to verify the miracle.
And my question comes after this test has been passed.
 

Cameron143

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Any curse directed at me, goes back on the sender.
You are wrong on so many levels you wrote in post #2.
God is indeed the one who does the healing, but we, the believers, are the ones who direct his hand on who to heal.
Anyone who has faith for healing, will get the healing they have faith for.
This has nothing to do with God's will, because it is God's will for his children to be healthy.
I don't ask for God's healing when I'm in need of it, I demand it. And that is simply because, sickness and disease is of the devil, and I refuse to allow the devil's work in my body or that of my loved ones.
Not only do you not know what faith is or how it works or how the kingdom of God works, but you completely ignore the promises of God, as though they are meaningless and without power.
God watches over and Hastens to PERFORM his word!!!
God doesn't respond to demands. He responds to faith. He also responds to one with a humble and contrite heart.
 

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Any curse directed at me, goes back on the sender.
You are wrong on so many levels you wrote in post #2.
God is indeed the one who does the healing, but we, the believers, are the ones who direct his hand on who to heal.
Anyone who has faith for healing, will get the healing they have faith for.
This has nothing to do with God's will, because it is God's will for his children to be healthy.
I don't ask for God's healing when I'm in need of it, I demand it. And that is simply because, sickness and disease is of the devil, and I refuse to allow the devil's work in my body or that of my loved ones.
Not only do you not know what faith is or how it works or how the kingdom of God works, but you completely ignore the promises of God, as though they are meaningless and without power.
God watches over and Hastens to PERFORM his word!!!
The type of healing that you desperately need requires much prayer and fasting.
 

tourist

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Any curse directed at me, goes back on the sender.
You are wrong on so many levels you wrote in post #2.
God is indeed the one who does the healing, but we, the believers, are the ones who direct his hand on who to heal.
Anyone who has faith for healing, will get the healing they have faith for.
This has nothing to do with God's will, because it is God's will for his children to be healthy.
I don't ask for God's healing when I'm in need of it, I demand it. And that is simply because, sickness and disease is of the devil, and I refuse to allow the devil's work in my body or that of my loved ones.
Not only do you not know what faith is or how it works or how the kingdom of God works, but you completely ignore the promises of God, as though they are meaningless and without power.
God watches over and Hastens to PERFORM his word!!!
God did not heal Paul. He said to Paul that His grace was sufficient. I understand full well about faith. Faith is hope in the evidence that is unseen. Personally, I don't believe that anyone is in a position to demand anything from God, including healing.
 

know1

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God doesn't respond to demands. He responds to faith. He also responds to one with a humble and contrite heart.
Then who pray tell is responding to my demands?
And where in the Bible does it say God responds to a humble and contrite heart concerning healing, Deliverance, salvation, and the like?
Having a humbling contract heart is a good thing but nowhere does it say God will heal those who have said qualities.
In fact, Jesus never brought that up as a requirement to receive healing or Deliverance.
 

Cameron143

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Then who pray tell is responding to my demands?
And where in the Bible does it say God responds to a humble and contrite heart concerning healing, Deliverance, salvation, and the like?
Having a humbling contract heart is a good thing but nowhere does it say God will heal those who have said qualities.
In fact, Jesus never brought that up as a requirement to receive healing or Deliverance.
Who? Not sure. But it's a good question.
 

know1

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God did not heal Paul. He said to Paul that His grace was sufficient. I understand full well about faith. Faith is hope in the evidence that is unseen. Personally, I don't believe that anyone is in a position to demand anything from God, including healing.
Paul was not in need of a healing, but a Deliverance, and nowhere does God say to ask him for deliverance. He always said, you do it, you do the casting out.
He knew it was a messenger of Satan to buffet him, as he put it, and yet he still was asking God to take care of it for him.
When he sent out the disciples in twos, you didn't have them ask God to cast out those spirits, he told them to do it in his name. And that is how it works.
And when God said, my grace is sufficient for you, he wasn't saying, I'll sustain you with my grace while you suffer. He was saying, my grace was sufficient for you to receive salvation, my grace was sufficient for you to receive gifts of the Spirit, my grace was sufficient for you to cast out devils in other people, and so on and so forth. So again, he was saying you do it.
And if you are demanding the word of God be enforced, and demanding the devil take it's hands off you or someone else, then you are in essence, telling God what to do, seeing that the word of God IS God.
And concerning faith, you don't even understand what you're trying to quote.
Faith is the very thing one envisions.
Hope is in the future tense, as in, someday in the future. Whereas faith is in the now, as in, present tense, or even past tense. And if you look to the natural concerning your healing, as in nothing happening, then nothing will happen because you will believe what you are experiencing. Faith defies the present circumstances and logic.
 

know1

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Who? Not sure. But it's a good question.
Your ignorance speaks volumes.
Even Jesus said, how can Satan cast out Satan without coming against himself?
So who is casting out the spirit? And you're telling me, you don't know?
You get rid of the spirit you get rid of half the problem.
 

know1

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The type of healing that you desperately need requires much prayer and fasting.
We are not in agreement and I reject your words.
I'm not the one who needs healing, but it is you who is in desperate need, because you're curse goes back on you, in the name of Jesus.
Only a witch or warlock, posing as a child of God, would say such a thing, knowing full well, I never said anything of the sort.
It is written, suffer not the witch to live.
And as is sent against me, the same return into the gut and bones of the sender, in the name of Jesus.
As sickness is sent against me, so the same return to the sender with power and authority. And as death was sent against me by another warlock, the same returned to him.
There's nothing good in a witch, as they cannot bless others, but only seek to steal, kill, and destroy the same, for as the spirit is in them, so are they.
So no amount of prayer and fasting will help you, who is the one in desperate need of healing.
 

Cameron143

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Your ignorance speaks volumes.
Even Jesus said, how can Satan cast out Satan without coming against himself?
So who is casting out the spirit? And you're telling me, you don't know?
You get rid of the spirit you get rid of half the problem.
Your lack of love speaks even louder. How can you be loving God who you cannot see if you are not loving those who you can see? First, remove the beam from your own eye.
 

know1

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Your lack of love speaks even louder. How can you be loving God who you cannot see if you are not loving those who you can see? First, remove the beam from your own eye.
Hypocrite! It is written, what you sow, that you will also reap. You sewed sarcasm to the Lord, and you reaped sarcasm from me.
Even God chasens those whom he loves, and humbles the proud and arrogant.
Know it or not, like the Pharisees and scribes who said Jesus cast out devil's by Beelzebub, you unwittingly insinuated the same.
I'm not the one who said, those who speak against the holy Spirit, like you did, will not be forgiven in this world, nor in the world to come, Jesus did.
You not only did not repent of that blasphemous statement, but you just double down, acting like you were walking in love when you spoke, what you thought was against me, when in reality, it was against the holy Spirit. And that is why I called you a hypocrite, because that's what hypocrites do. And that's something else God doesn't like.
So rather than trying to be cute, just to get likes from your fellow Wolves in sheep's clothing, by saying something derogatory, if you had been interested in knowing the truth, by seeking God, then asking me how I could make such a bold statement, it would have gone over much better for you.
 

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We are not in agreement and I reject your words.
I'm not the one who needs healing, but it is you who is in desperate need, because you're curse goes back on you, in the name of Jesus.
Only a witch or warlock, posing as a child of God, would say such a thing, knowing full well, I never said anything of the sort.
It is written, suffer not the witch to live.
And as is sent against me, the same return into the gut and bones of the sender, in the name of Jesus.
As sickness is sent against me, so the same return to the sender with power and authority. And as death was sent against me by another warlock, the same returned to him.
There's nothing good in a witch, as they cannot bless others, but only seek to steal, kill, and destroy the same, for as the spirit is in them, so are they.
So no amount of prayer and fasting will help you, who is the one in desperate need of healing.
You are losing all credibility as a Christian. You would probably do better on a Psychic Chat Site!
 

Cameron143

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Hypocrite! It is written, what you sow, that you will also reap. You sewed sarcasm to the Lord, and you reaped sarcasm from me.
Even God chasens those whom he loves, and humbles the proud and arrogant.
Know it or not, like the Pharisees and scribes who said Jesus cast out devil's by Beelzebub, you unwittingly insinuated the same.
I'm not the one who said, those who speak against the holy Spirit, like you did, will not be forgiven in this world, nor in the world to come, Jesus did.
You not only did not repent of that blasphemous statement, but you just double down, acting like you were walking in love when you spoke, what you thought was against me, when in reality, it was against the holy Spirit. And that is why I called you a hypocrite, because that's what hypocrites do. And that's something else God doesn't like.
So rather than trying to be cute, just to get likes from your fellow Wolves in sheep's clothing, by saying something derogatory, if you had been interested in knowing the truth, by seeking God, then asking me how I could make such a bold statement, it would have gone over much better for you.
Hmmmm....so, you lack love and discernment. I guess your response is righteous anger, and you are the arm of the Lord?
Perhaps, rather than acting so hostile, you might learn to receive correction. Jesus was meek and lowly of heart. Learn of Him.
 

know1

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You are losing all credibility as a Christian. You would probably do better on a Psychic Chat Site!
I don't look for anyone's approval or acceptance, because I could care less about either.
When I see wickedness or evil intent, I'm calling it out.
You obviously have not had anybody do witchcraft on you or to your family, to kill you. It was no picnic, nor was it a walk in the park. Especially before we knew better. Like you, I was ignorant of their devices.
So again, I make no apologies when someone comes against me or my family. On the contrary, I'm going after them with a vengeance, because I've seen first hand what they are capable of doing.
The western church is woefully inept and incapable of dealing with witchcraft, like I was. My wife almost died because of a coven doing witchcraft against us.
So do you think I really care who accepts me and who doesn't, or who says I'm a Christian and who says I'm not, based on their ignorance?
Even as Jesus said, the children of the devil would be in the church of God, CC also has the same posing as Christians.
You obviously didn't think anything of what the other person said, or what the intent was behind it.
 

Lamar

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Demands of any kind. In response to the poster, demands to have prayers answered.
???????????????????

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I have made no such demand.

I think you are confusing me with know1.

He is the one who "demands" things of God in his prayers. (Post# 179)
 

Cameron143

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???????????????????

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I have made no such demand.

I think you are confusing me with know1.

He is the one who "demands" things of God in his prayers. (Post# 179)
I'm not confusing the 2 of you. I responded to his post, not yours. Then you started asking me questions, so I answered them.