Do you agree with this assessment of the Assassination attempt?

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How do you respond to the question posed in the first post of this thread?


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Lynx

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#22
I sure hope you don't stand before God any time soon after this false accusation of me.
IT'S THE SPY!

Or the shill...

Which do you go by, Mr. Spy or Mr. Shill? :p

I guess I'm a government agent now too. I've disagreed with ZNP enough to qualify as at least a shill.

I don't have the ambition to do all the research to contradict everything he says though. That would be a full time job. So it looks like I'll never be promoted to spy.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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IT'S THE SPY!

Or the shill...

Which do you go by, Mr. Spy or Mr. Shill? :p

I guess I'm a government agent now too. I've disagreed with ZNP enough to qualify as at least a shill.

I don't have the ambition to do all the research to contradict everything he says though. That would be a full time job. So it looks like I'll never be promoted to spy.
I provided this timeline to ZNP
  • At 1:30pm, the suspect returned to his home and his father provided him a rifle for the purpose of what he believed was to go back to the the sportsman club to shoot.
  • At 1:54pm, the suspect purchased 50 rounds of ammunition and traveled back to the fairgrounds.
It clearly shows the shooter did not even have a weapon to shoot Trump yet and did not buy ammo because he had no weapon.

So it proves this is an alone act not a coop by the Government or they would have provided a weapon and ammo and the kid would not need to go to his Dad for a weapon.

Suddenly that makes me a spy or shill because I am using logic.
 

Lynx

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#24
I provided this timeline to ZNP
  • At 1:30pm, the suspect returned to his home and his father provided him a rifle for the purpose of what he believed was to go back to the the sportsman club to shoot.
  • At 1:54pm, the suspect purchased 50 rounds of ammunition and traveled back to the fairgrounds.
It clearly shows the shooter did not even have a weapon to shoot Trump yet and did not buy ammo because he had no weapon.

So it proves this is an alone act not a coop by the Government or they would have provided a weapon and ammo and the kid would not need to go to his Dad for a weapon.

Suddenly that makes me a spy or shill because I am using logic.
You don't have to use logic to be a government plant. Just disagreeing with ZNP is enough. You have committed the unpardonable sin and are automatically and forevermore The Enemy.

I am not so energetic as you, so although I am An Enemy, I will never get that promotion to The Enemy.
 

ZNP

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#25
I sure hope you don't stand before God any time soon after this false accusation of me.
"However, for some reason he is very invested in saying that there was a lone shooter, that is all there is to it, and anyone who says otherwise he insults and mocks. These claims were made in all caps, in big bold orange letters, it was as though he was screaming at the rest of us to stop asking questions."

Is this the accusation?

Here is what @FollowerofShiloh said in the thread "Assassination Attemp against Donald Trump"

Post #660
IDC!

Ignorance attracts ignorance so go for it!


This was said in response to me opening this thread to poll others what they think. I consider this to be insulting and insulting to anyone who disagrees with him.

Post #597

Indeed!
They might have a brain and don't get caught up in make belief.


Again, insulting to anyone and everyone who disagrees with him.

Post #596.

Dan protected a Woman who caused Benghazi. He protected someone who did the attacking and was never attacked. He sounds credible to me.


This is his dismissing Dan Bongino who worked for the Secret Service protecting Presidents and high level cabinet officials for 20 years. To me this supports my claim that he is invested in his position that this is a lone wolf despite and refuses to listen to anyone else and is insulting to them.

Post #579

The ss dropped the ball. Nothing more. They were inadequate at doing their job. Anyone of us could have done what Crooks did. If it was planned there would have been a 2nd shooter to ensure the kill.


This is what I mean when I say he is invested in his theory to the point of dismissing all others. There are a wide ranging set of opinions, I disagree with @Eli1 and @Susanna but they have their opinions and I have mine. But his posts are dismissive of all facts, insulting and fully invested in his point of view. This is not a discussion, this is him telling others what to believe and if you don't agree with him you don't have a brain and are ignorant. For example:

Post #567
No One hired this kid.
Only morons would think that.


Why would you say that? There was a story that the kid was on the spectrum, a loner and bullied. But all of that is not true. He is not a loner, he was not bullied, and yes, we know for a fact that he was hired by Blackrock to do a commercial.

Post #548
I agree with you 100% I only mentioned what Trump did because the shooter was also bullied most of his life and he clearly had mental issues. I don't agree with "anything" the Left promotes. Especially going Green and how they define marriage and human biology. I only made a comment of...


This is a prime example of what I am talking about. He is spouting the lie from the official narrative. We heard directly from the guidance counselor, he was not a loner, he had five close friends in the school and he was not bullied. Those are both lies. Yet he spouts this stuff and insults anyone who points out the fallacy in what he is saying.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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#26
You don't have to use logic to be a government plant. Just disagreeing with ZNP is enough. You have committed the unpardonable sin and are automatically and forevermore The Enemy.

I am not so energetic as you, so although I am An Enemy, I will never get that promotion to The Enemy.
LOL

I see you speak from experience. I will take your words wisely (y)
 

ZNP

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#27
IT'S THE SPY!

Or the shill...

Which do you go by, Mr. Spy or Mr. Shill? :p

I guess I'm a government agent now too. I've disagreed with ZNP enough to qualify as at least a shill.

I don't have the ambition to do all the research to contradict everything he says though. That would be a full time job. So it looks like I'll never be promoted to spy.
You are wrong. In my post about gaslighting I quoted directly from many posts. I did not quote from your post once.

The budget spent on political ads for social media is $2 billion since 2020. With that kind of money you get the best and brightest on Madison avenue. They use algorithms and AI. You can be sure they are on Facebook, X, and all the other major platforms. This forum may seem smaller, but that is absurd. I have had 350,000 viewers of my blog, that is different IP addresses. So enough people visit this forum to warrant them trying to manipulate this as well.
 

Lynx

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#28
You are wrong. In my post about gaslighting I quoted directly from many posts. I did not quote from your post once.
*sigh

I don't even get an honorable mention quote.

It's my own fault for being lazy though. I just don't argue hard enough.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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#29
"However, for some reason he is very invested in saying that there was a lone shooter, that is all there is to it, and anyone who says otherwise he insults and mocks. These claims were made in all caps, in big bold orange letters, it was as though he was screaming at the rest of us to stop asking questions."

Is this the accusation?

Here is what @FollowerofShiloh said in the thread "Assassination Attemp against Donald Trump"

Post #660
IDC!


Ignorance attracts ignorance so go for it!
You said you would make this thread and I made that statement

This was said in response to me opening this thread to poll others what they think. I consider this to be insulting and insulting to anyone who disagrees with him.
Post #597

Indeed!
They might have a brain and don't get caught up in make belief.
Such a fibber!

You mentioned anyone who joined in 2024 was government spy and that was my reply.

Again, insulting to anyone and everyone who disagrees with him.

Post #596.

Dan protected a Woman who caused Benghazi. He protected someone who did the attacking and was never attacked. He sounds credible to me.

This is his dismissing Dan Bongino who worked for the Secret Service protecting Presidents and high level cabinet officials for 20 years. To me this supports my claim that he is invested in his position that this is a lone wolf despite and refuses to listen to anyone else and is insulting to them.
You said Dan was Hilary's bodyguard and I replied what she is known for.

Post #579
The ss dropped the ball. Nothing more. They were inadequate at doing their job. Anyone of us could have done what Crooks did. If it was planned there would have been a 2nd shooter to ensure the kill.

This is what I mean when I say he is invested in his theory to the point of dismissing all others. There are a wide ranging set of opinions, I disagree with @Eli1 and @Susanna but they have their opinions and I have mine. But his posts are dismissive of all facts, insulting and fully invested in his point of view. This is not a discussion, this is him telling others what to believe and if you don't agree with him you don't have a brain and are ignorant. For example:
And it is a fact.

Post #567
No One hired this kid.
Only morons would think that.
Why would you say that? There was a story that the kid was on the spectrum, a loner and bullied. But all of that is not true. He is not a loner, he was not bullied, and yes, we know for a fact that he was hired by Blackrock to do a commercial.
because he did not have a weapon until his Dad gave him one so he clearly worked alone.

Post #548
I agree with you 100% I only mentioned what Trump did because the shooter was also bullied most of his life and he clearly had mental issues. I don't agree with "anything" the Left promotes. Especially going Green and how they define marriage and human biology. I only made a comment of...
This is a prime example of what I am talking about. He is spouting the lie from the official narrative. We heard directly from the guidance counselor, he was not a loner, he had five close friends in the school and he was not bullied. Those are both lies. Yet he spouts this stuff and insults anyone who points out the fallacy in what he is saying.
That was an answer to why he would shoot Trump from his own reasoning.




You clearly are a deceiver.
 

ZNP

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#30
You said you would make this thread and I made that statement


Such a liar!

You mentioned anyone who joined in 2024 was government spy and that was my reply.
Nope, that is false, and since you freely accuse me of lying I'll go so far that this is a lie. I said that since they are spending billions of dollars to influence social media for the political campaigns we should be wary of anyone who joined in 2024. That doesn't mean I said everyone who joined then is a spy. Such an assertion is idiotic as many of those who join do not get involved in the News thread or Political debates. Obviously if someone is working to manipulate people concerning the election they will be on the news threads and political debates.

For example, if you look at the last 100 posts you have made more than 90 are about Trump. So not only have you joined a Christian forum in 2024, you post 4,000 posts in that time, and 90% are political?

You said Dan was Hilary's bodyguard and I replied what she is known for.
I said Dan worked for the Secret Service for 20 years, has contacts in that agency today, and worked guarding Presidents and Hillary Clinton. What she is known for is irrelevant when discussing his views on the security provided at the rally.


And it is a fact.


because he did not have a weapon until his Dad gave him one so he clearly worked alone.


That was an answer to why he would shoot Trump from his own reasoning.
That is your claim. I have yet to see a link to an interview where the Dad said this and I have asked you repeatedly to provide that link. I want to know the facts in the case and if he has said this and I missed it I'd like to see that. But just because you claim he said it does not make that a fact. Provide the link. Thankyou.




You clearly are a deceiver.
So you have called me a liar and a deceiver and yet you say I am lying when I claim you are insulting.
 

ZNP

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#31
*sigh

I don't even get an honorable mention quote.

It's my own fault for being lazy though. I just don't argue hard enough.
Sorry,

You joined in 2014, not 2024. It would be absurd to think that you joined two years before Trump ran as some plant. @FolllowerofShiloh joined in 2024 when the campaign was in full swing, so he definitely scores higher than you on that point.

Strike 1

In that time you have 25,000 posts. Or about 2,500 a year.

Again, not good enough to make the cut, @FolllowerofShiloh has 4,000 posts and he just joined this year.

Strike 2

Of your last 100 posts only 5 are on a thread concerning Trump and Biden. Again, not good enough to make the list, by comparison @FollowerofShiloh has more than 90% of his posts about Trump and Biden in of the last 100 (I’m not about to go through all 4,000).

Strike 3.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Nope, that is false, and since you freely accuse me of lying I'll go so far that this is a lie. I said that since they are spending billions of dollars to influence social media for the political campaigns we should be wary of anyone who joined in 2024. That doesn't mean I said everyone who joined then is a spy. Such an assertion is idiotic as many of those who join do not get involved in the News thread or Political debates. Obviously if someone is working to manipulate people concerning the election they will be on the news threads and political debates.

For example, if you look at the last 100 posts you have made more than 90 are about Trump. So not only have you joined a Christian forum in 2024, you post 4,000 posts in that time, and 90% are political?



I said Dan worked for the Secret Service for 20 years, has contacts in that agency today, and worked guarding Presidents and Hillary Clinton. What she is known for is irrelevant when discussing his views on the security provided at the rally.




That is your claim. I have yet to see a link to an interview where the Dad said this and I have asked you repeatedly to provide that link. I want to know the facts in the case and if he has said this and I missed it I'd like to see that. But just because you claim he said it does not make that a fact. Provide the link. Thankyou.





So you have called me a liar and a deceiver and yet you say I am lying when I claim you are insulting.
All someone has to do is go to the Thread Assassination Attempt on Donald Trump and can see where you quoted me and I quoted you.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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#33
Sorry,

You joined in 2014, not 2024. It would be absurd to think that you joined two years before Trump ran as some plant. @FolllowerofShiloh joined in 2024 when the campaign was in full swing, so he definitely scores higher than you on that point.

Strike 1

In that time you have 25,000 posts. Or about 2,500 a year.

Again, not good enough to make the cut, @FolllowerofShiloh has 4,000 posts and he just joined this year.

Strike 2

Of your last 100 posts only 5 are on a thread concerning Trump and Biden. Again, not good enough to make the list, by comparison @FollowerofShiloh has more than 90% of his posts about Trump and Biden in of the last 100 (I’m not about to go through all 4,000).

Strike 3.
90% of my posts are discussing Bible. But when Trump was shot at I wanted to see how people saw it.
 

Lynx

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#34
Sorry,

You joined in 2014, not 2024. It would be absurd to think that you joined two years before Trump ran as some plant. @FolllowerofShiloh joined in 2024 when the campaign was in full swing, so he definitely scores higher than you on that point.

Strike 1

In that time you have 25,000 posts. Or about 2,500 a year.

Again, not good enough to make the cut, @FolllowerofShiloh has 4,000 posts and he just joined this year.

Strike 2

Of your last 100 posts only 5 are on a thread concerning Trump and Biden. Again, not good enough to make the list, by comparison @FollowerofShiloh has more than 90% of his posts about Trump and Biden in of the last 100 (I’m not about to go through all 4,000).

Strike 3.
Yeah, like I said. Two out of the three strikes were me just not trying hard enough.

I'm just too lazy to get that promotion.
 

ZNP

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#35
90% of my posts are discussing Bible. But when Trump was shot at I wanted to see how people saw it.
Well this was when you showed up on my radar, I went and looked at your last 100 posts to know who you are. That is the value of a forum like this.
 

Magenta

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#36
The other two were reported for gross and despicable comments.
Did the ketchup Trump guy even ever say anything? I thought they were just putting reactions on posts.
 

ZNP

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#37
Did the ketchup Trump guy even ever say anything? I thought they were just putting reactions on posts.
Yep. I never saw a post from him, I checked several times.
 

Magenta

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ZNP

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#39

ZNP

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#40
Was there more than one of him with the words Trump and ketchup in name?

One of the reactions is here =>

(1) Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him? - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums

But I thought I saw another name very similar also...

With maybe Zionist or something like it in the name along with Trump and ketchup...
You have @JDVanceSkullAndBones (joined July 2024) and @TrumpKetchupAss (Joined July 2024) and @ZionistTrumpKetchup (joined July 2024) and @MerSee (Joined January 2024)

All four have posted reactions to my posts. Several of these members do not post anything other than comments on posts.

But I guess I am just paranoid to think that these members are not Christians seeking fellowship about the Lord Jesus Christ and His precious blood which saves us from sin.