Do you agree with this assessment of the Assassination attempt?

[ZNP]

THERE WOULD BE NO PLAN IF DAD SAYS NO!

THE KID DID NOT EVEN KNOW IF HE WOULD HAVE A WEAPON TO USE SO HE DID NOT BUY AMMO BEFORE HIS DAD ALLOWED HIM TO USE WEAPON!

That means this is a lone act! Post #659 by @FollowerofShiloh in the "Assassination Attemp against Donald Trump" thread

Do you agree or disagree.

My position is this:

It makes all the difference in the world. The 20 year old is dead. If this was him alone, and now he is dead, we can go about our business pretending it is over. But if it is the director of the SS and a number of evil actors involved and Thomas was simply a patsy then it makes a great deal of difference. We need to root out all the killers, prosecute them, and then execute them. There will be others like MainStream media that pushed fabricated stories designed to misinform, they also need to be held accountable, prosecuted and put out of business. If this assassination goes all the way up the chain to the guy who gave the command to put Trump in the Bulls eye then that would make the entire Biden campaign guilty and culpable of being charged with RICO crimes. This includes the trolls they have hired to influence Facebook, X, and other platforms like this forum.

Now is when we need to shine the spotlight on these criminals.

 

[ZNP]

The police that saw him on the roof were told to leave the rally by the director of Secret Service. The police that were in the command center were told to go to McDonalds during the rally. The SS sniper had the 20 years old in his sights for three minutes but was not given the go ahead to shoot. There was an open window in the zone that the Secret Service was responsible for with a clear line of sight to the President. This is a clear violation of their protocol. The ladder that the 20 year old climbed up to get on the roof was not placed there by him. We are now told he was scoping out Trump and Biden for months, therefore he should have popped up on the SS radar. That is six things that this 20 year old didn't do but that had to be done for him to get up on that roof and have a shot at the president. All six were done by the Secret Service or by those supplying the security to the president.

It is obviously not a 20 year old operating on his own, so why is @FollowerofShiloh so insistent that we stop connecting the dots to the Secret Service?

 

[ZNP]

I had no issue with people who were careful to accuse anyone else, but in several of his posts @FollowerofShiloh is telling us point blank "the SS dropped the ball. Nothing more." Well the evidence is out and there is way more to this story than they simply dropped the ball.

1. We have at least two shooters maybe three. We know that three shots were fired from within a building while six shots were fired outside. It seems five of those shots were from one gun, the sixth might be from another. They would have known this within an hour of this attack. So they have lied to us about this.

2. Since bullets came from 2-3 guns even if they picked up their brass you would be able to confirm this. The 20 year old on the roof was dead, did he have 9 casings in his pocket? If not did they find 9 casings near his body? Any investigator will be tasked with trying to find the 9 shell casings and without those you know their is a second or third shooter.

3. We have video of a man on the watertower.

4. We have video evidence that shows Trump was shot from a second floor window which was open. The accoustics confirm that this is where the first three shots came from and you can line up where Trump was standing, looking and where the bullets hit behind him.

5. We have evidence that Blackrock and all the other deep state actors had shorted $50 million worth of Trump stock the day before the shooting.

All of this evidence should have been available to us in a press statement within 24 hours. Once they had the bullets they could also tell us specifically how many guns.

So then this is heinous to make this claim at this time.

 

[ZNP]

I have made the votes public because there has been a lot of debate over voting for candidates which is not something that I think is essential for Believers to debate. If they want fine, but it is not an item of the faith. But we are told to pray for our leaders, we are told to pray for the peace of the nation, and so I believe this is something that Christians should take a public stand on. The Spirit filled believers are to be restraining evil and this is the perfect opportunity to make a public testimony that you are one with the Holy Spirit.

 

[ZNP]

🚨 Secret Service Whistleblower REVEALS SHOCKING Truth About Trump Assassination Plot: 'FAKE Agents!'

 

[ZNP]

The story just got worse… there's NO WAY he acted alone against Trump

I'll have to account in the poll for these guys.

 

[Magenta]

It is inexcusable to jump to conclusions concerning an assassination attempt before the facts are in

Are all the facts in yet? .

 

[ZNP]

Are all the facts in yet? .

Sufficient facts are in to conclude there must have been two shooters. The audio file confirms that as well as the direction the bullet was fired from compared to where the 20 year old man on the roof was. We can conclude the direction the bullet came from photographs of where Trump was when hit as well as where the bullets behind Trump hit. All you need is two points to give you a straight line. This evidence eliminates the theory that the 20 year old was a lone wolf.

We have quite a few facts that support the idea of a conspiracy. Generally you need two or three witnesses and we have much more than that.

We also have more that enough facts to question everyone involved in the security including the director of the Secret Service and prosecute them.

We also have enough evidence for a grand jury concerning Blackrock and all those involved in shorting Trump's company 24 hours before the assassination attempt.

 

[Magenta]

Sufficient facts are in to conclude there must have been two shooters. The audio file confirms that as well as the direction the bullet was fired from compared to where the 20 year old man on the roof was. We can conclude the direction the bullet came from photographs of where Trump was when hit as well as where the bullets behind Trump hit. All you need is two points to give you a straight line. This evidence eliminates the theory that the 20 year old was a lone wolf.

We have quite a few facts that support the idea of a conspiracy. Generally you need two or three witnesses and we have much more than that.

We also have more that enough facts to question everyone involved in the security including the director of the Secret Service and prosecute them.

We also have enough evidence for a grand jury concerning Blackrock and all those involved in shorting Trump's company 24 hours before the assassination attempt.

From top to bottom the whole thing stinks and was such a fiasco on the part of "security."

 

[SonJudgment]

I think it was probably designed as a political assassination attempt and am even suspicious that the identity of the shooter might not be what they say it is. I think though it's not gonna be resolved by any of the options in the poll listed. Since Trump is the one that is the target I think we should just follow his lead on this and Trump's claim is that our revenge will just be to simply be successful. I think we should go with that. They failed either way and everything they do is a collosal failure, so just by succeeding and making Americans succeed again that is a perfect retribution in a Christian manner.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Do you agree or disagree.

I agree that the "Protectors" whether police or governmental agencies did not act in a manner consistent with their job descriptions.

The Uvalde tragedy was another case where the Police, who's duty was clear, didn't act in a manner consistent with their responsibilities.

That Trump is still alive isn't consistent with the situation the "Protectors" put him in - i.e. they FAILED TO DO THEIR JOBS.

Simple as that. The talking heads will continue spreading confusion. And FOOLS will believe them.

The Democratic National Party has deserted their figurehead, ostensibly based on the reaction to the "Debate show" It appears that they've been trying to get rid of him for some time, and that the "Debate show" was a "Set-up" to supposedly provide motivation for their rejection of Biden, who performed exactly as expected in the show.

There will be an election in a few months, and the worst possible scenario would be, as it was in 2020, which I personally don't trust the results of.

Neither do I personally trust the election officials to return an HONEST RESULT in 2024. a "BLOWOUT" for one candidate would be Ideal, since the people in charge couldn't falsify the results. Maybe THAT'S WHY the Democrats think they need to present somebody that will better facilitate the falsification of the election results.

 

[ZNP]

🔴The story just got worse...there's no way he acted alone AGAINST TRUMP!

 

[ZNP]

Nine Secret Service Failures that Nearly Led to Former President Donald Trump Being Assassinated

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...er-president-donald-trump-being-assassinated/

We have covered all 9 failures already, but if you want a review go to the story.

YES!! Woke Secret Service Director is RESIGNING!! THIS STORY JUST GOT WORSE..

 

[Lynx]

The police that saw him on the roof were told to leave the rally by the director of Secret Service. The police that were in the command center were told to go to McDonalds during the rally. The SS sniper had the 20 years old in his sights for three minutes but was not given the go ahead to shoot. There was an open window in the zone that the Secret Service was responsible for with a clear line of sight to the President. This is a clear violation of their protocol. The ladder that the 20 year old climbed up to get on the roof was not placed there by him. We are now told he was scoping out Trump and Biden for months, therefore he should have popped up on the SS radar. That is six things that this 20 year old didn't do but that had to be done for him to get up on that roof and have a shot at the president. All six were done by the Secret Service or by those supplying the security to the president.

It is obviously not a 20 year old operating on his own, so why is @FollowerofShiloh so insistent that we stop connecting the dots to the Secret Service?

You really seem to have an axe to grind about FollowerofShiloh. To hear you tell it, the dude is at least a government shill, here to spread disinformation. Maybe a government spy too.

 

[ZNP]

You really seem to have an axe to grind about FollowerofShiloh. To hear you tell it, the dude is at least a government shill, here to spread disinformation. Maybe a government spy too.

I do not know that.

What I do know is that we have been discussing this assassination attempt. Everyone has their own perspective and none of us has all the facts. However, for some reason he is very invested in saying that there was a lone shooter, that is all there is to it, and anyone who says otherwise he insults and mocks. These claims were made in all caps, in big bold orange letters, it was as though he was screaming at the rest of us to stop asking questions.

Meanwhile the evidence has come out conclusively that Thomas was not the only shooter and that the Security detail around Trump had 9 failures which allowed this assassination attempt. We had one person say that everyone makes mistakes and that we should assume a 1% error rate. OK, the odds of 9 errors then would be 0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01 = 0.000000000000000001 or a 99.999999999999999999% chance that it wasn't an error but rather intentional. I'll take those odds.

I don't claim to know anymore than the facts that have been slowly coming out. However, I will assume that the government officials who have demanded the resignation/firing of the Director of the Secret Service have access to all the facts currently available and they have determined she is fully culpable.

So I have taken issue with his claim that he knows something that no one else seems to know. That he is telling everyone else to stop asking questions when we are only one week into this, and that he is insulting to those of us who do ask questions. I have also noted that the three biggest trolls on this issue have all joined this forum in 2024. We are not ignorant of Biden's devices, we know they employ people to influence people on social media and that would include this forum. I think it is relevant to a discussion that when someone seems very unreasonable and refuses to look at the facts that you understand who you are dealing with.

The other two trolls have been completely reprehensible and despicable in what they have said. So of the three FollowerofShiloh is the only one I even bothered to engage. The other two were reported for gross and despicable comments. There is one other person that I have quoted as a gaslighter. But at least he is not spewing the most vile hatred.

 

[Lynx]

Uh... Yeah. I'm sure the Biden admin really cares what a few people in a little Christian forum on the wane in a remote corner of the internet think, and how to influence them. Sure. That's gotta be it.

To assume they even know we exist is a massive leap that requires a LOT of ego.

 

[ZNP]

Uh... Yeah. I'm sure the Biden admin really cares what a few people in a little Christian forum on the wane in a remote corner of the internet think, and how to influence them. Sure. That's gotta be it.

To assume they even know we exist is a massive leap that requires a LOT of ego.

How should Christians respond to Project 2025?
JULY 16, 2024 - PARKER JONES

Project 2025, a conservative policy game plan for the future, has become a source of recent controversy as liberal politicians and commentators work to tie the contentious agenda to Donald Trump’s campaign, and Trump works to distance himself from it. Messaging surrounding the project is now central to President Biden’s campaign strategy as he seeks to persuade Americans that a second Trump term would be radical and dangerous. Biden’s campaign website vaguely frames Project 2025 as “the plan by Donald Trump’s MAGA Republican allies to give Trump more power over your daily life, gut democratic checks and balances, and consolidate power in the Oval Office if he wins.”

Trump insists Biden is 'targeting' Christians, urges evangelicals to 'vote, vote, vote'
By David Mendez Washington, D.C.
PUBLISHED 4:38 PM ET Jun. 22, 2024

Former President Donald Trump thanked six conservative Supreme Court justices “for the wisdom and the courage to end Roe v. Wade” on Saturday, as he insisted without evidence to a group of evangelicals that the Biden administration is persecuting Christians and Catholics on the basis of their faith.

“We will protect Christians in our schools and our military and our government, our workplaces, in our hospitals, and in our public square,” Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee for the November presidential election, told his audience at the Faith & Freedom Coalition in Washington Saturday. “And my next term, I will once again appoint a rock solid conservative...you know, we put in almost 300 judges and three Supreme Court justices to interpret the law and the Constitution as written," he said, adding that Republicans "totally transformed the federal bench.”

Whether or not you believe what Trump or Biden is saying, the fact is that Christians voting are central to both of their campaign strategies. Trump wants them to "vote, vote, vote" and Biden wants to scare them away from Trump and voting.

 

[ZNP]

https://www.opensecrets.org/online-ads

This reveals that online political ads have spent $2.1 billion since January 1, 2020.

In 2016 Pew Research reported that 62% of people got their news from online sites.

https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2016/05/26/news-use-across-social-media-platforms-2016/

This was prior to the pandemic which has caused online usage to soar and which has also caused CNN and MSNBC and NPR to suffer a major loss in their ratings.

The biggest and most influential pundits are now no longer on the Mainstream media. Steve Bannon and Tucker Carlson to name two of them.

Behind the scenes everyone is concerned about AI and its power to influence the elections. You can easily have AI visiting all the various forums and posting on them with the goal of influencing the election. That is inexpensive and you can be sure that campaigns that are spending hundreds of millions if not a billion dollars on advertising are making use of AI.

BY LEAH FEIGER
POLITICS
MAY 31, 2024 2:16 PM
Welcome to the AI Election Year
With more than 60 countries holding elections in 2024, deepfakes and robocalls are being used to manipulate voters across the world. WIRED is tracking every instance of AI interference during this critical election year.

https://www.wired.com/story/ai-election-2024/

 

[ZNP]

More audio forensic analysis suggests multple shooters on July 13, 2024

https://rumble.com/v57pdy5-more-aud...uggests-multple-shooters-on-july-13-2024.html

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

I do not know that.

What I do know is that we have been discussing this assassination attempt. Everyone has their own perspective and none of us has all the facts. However, for some reason he is very invested in saying that there was a lone shooter, that is all there is to it, and anyone who says otherwise he insults and mocks. These claims were made in all caps, in big bold orange letters, it was as though he was screaming at the rest of us to stop asking questions.

Meanwhile the evidence has come out conclusively that Thomas was not the only shooter and that the Security detail around Trump had 9 failures which allowed this assassination attempt. We had one person say that everyone makes mistakes and that we should assume a 1% error rate. OK, the odds of 9 errors then would be 0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01x0.01 = 0.000000000000000001 or a 99.999999999999999999% chance that it wasn't an error but rather intentional. I'll take those odds.

I don't claim to know anymore than the facts that have been slowly coming out. However, I will assume that the government officials who have demanded the resignation/firing of the Director of the Secret Service have access to all the facts currently available and they have determined she is fully culpable.

So I have taken issue with his claim that he knows something that no one else seems to know. That he is telling everyone else to stop asking questions when we are only one week into this, and that he is insulting to those of us who do ask questions. I have also noted that the three biggest trolls on this issue have all joined this forum in 2024. We are not ignorant of Biden's devices, we know they employ people to influence people on social media and that would include this forum. I think it is relevant to a discussion that when someone seems very unreasonable and refuses to look at the facts that you understand who you are dealing with.

The other two trolls have been completely reprehensible and despicable in what they have said. So of the three FollowerofShiloh is the only one I even bothered to engage. The other two were reported for gross and despicable comments. There is one other person that I have quoted as a gaslighter. But at least he is not spewing the most vile hatred.

I sure hope you don't stand before God any time soon after this false accusation of me.