Assassination attemp against Donald Trump

[ZNP]

The teacher purposely left the door open to let the shooter in. She did leave the door open, I do not believe she did it to let the shooter in, I think she did it for convenience.

But you can believe what you want, I think you just want to debate.

No, you have not followed the case close enough. That particular door could not be locked, it was broken. Now at the school I taught at we had six doors on the first floor, with one or two doors on each side of the building. So how did the shooter know the exact door that would be open? He didn't work at this school and there is no indication that he had been to the school prior to this event.

The simplest explanation is someone broke that door, someone who had access to the school, and then they informed the shooter which door he would be able to open.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

i presume that's rhetorical

No, you mentioned Israel, therefore the question. Do you believe there is no difference between the parties?

 

[PennEd]

You either MUST accept that the SS, and all the DEI hires are insanely incompetent, or that they were complicit in at least allowing, if not facilitating the attempt.

 

[HeIsHere]

No, you have not followed the case close enough. That particular door could not be locked, it was broken. Now at the school I taught at we had six doors on the first floor, with one or two doors on each side of the building. So how did the shooter know the exact door that would be open? He didn't work at this school and there is no indication that he had been to the school prior to this event.

The simplest explanation is someone broke that door, someone who had access to the school, and then they informed the shooter which door he would be able to open.

The door being dysfuntional is one thing, the shooter being told is next level. I have not read anything about an accomplice who did that, if you have share.

However, the nearby roof was seen in advance and was left wide open as per a human decision, and the shooter knew to go there, was that incompetence I find it hard to believe, was there incompetence on that day yes that seems evident.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

No different than the police in Texas who waited until the gunman emptied his weapon in a grade school killing 21 before entering into the building.

Both of those shootings were more than a little suspicious.
Do you remember if the politicians used that as a campaign to disarm parents and the general public?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Bottom line is the disgraced Sheriff on the scene with almost 350 Law Enforcement Officers is having his chorizo and eggs wrapped up in a flour/maze tortilla this morning. The Pennsylvania Officers who did not engage are enjoying a jelly filled donut today. They chose themselves over everyone else. And who knows what could have been done had they not been thinking about self first...

Some guys from back in the day were reported shooting at random targets including children in West Virginia.
Police rushed to the scene and missed stopping the criminals by only 1-2 hours. At least the brave men of that thin blue line went home that night. That's what REALLY matters.

 

[ZNP]

The door being dysfuntional is one thing, the shooter being told is next level. I have not read anything about an accomplice who did that, if you have share.

However, the nearby roof was seen in advance and was left wide open as per a human decision, and the shooter knew to go there, was that incompetence I find it hard to believe, was there incompetence on that day yes that seems evident.

Dan Bongino worked for the Secret Service for years and did the advance work at events just like these. He said if you are not going to put someone on the roof then you get some balloons and put them up so they don't have a view of stage. Simple fix.

The director of the Secret Service said she thought it was unsafe to put people on that roof because of the slope despite having two teams of snipers on other roofs with the same slope. Instead she said she put a team in the building to secure it and yet they allowed this guy to go up onto the roof of a building they are securing, using a ladder on the outside of the building, he was up there for as much as 30 minutes, witnesses as well as the police were aware of him on the roof. So how is that "securing the building"?

There is much more to Uvalde than the police sitting outside for forty minutes while he shoots up the school despite that being contrary to police protocols, and also about the door being fixed so it could not be locked, or about him knowing which door to go into, or even about some poor guy working a part time job at a fast food restaurant having about $100k in equipment. Uvalde happens to also be where two eclipses intersected, the one in 2023 and the one in 2024. These kids were a human sacrifice to Satan.

Either you believe with your whole heart and mind in coincidences. or else you allow common sense to guide you. The odds that all these things just happened to be coincidence is less than 0.000001%

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Greta has Autism. Trump, at age 65 then should have just ignored her.

Has she been bestowed the hallowed victim status?

The whole world has tried to ignore Greta and her child-abusing handlers. She's a mouthpiece for a genocidal mob.
The world's farming and by extension it's food supply is under threat by these people. Ignoring them isn't possible for
anyone in leadership. This is very serious, far beyond hurty feelings.

I wasn't aware Trump stood up to it. Good for him, someone had to. Yet another reason to vote for him.

 

[ZNP]

Has she been bestowed the hallowed victim status?

The whole world has tried to ignore Greta and her child-abusing handlers. She's a mouthpiece for a genocidal mob.
The world's farming and by extension it's food supply is under threat by these people. Ignoring them isn't possible for
anyone in leadership. This is very serious, far beyond hurty feelings.

Are you seriously questioning the motives behind using a teenager on the spectrum to push for $6 trillion spending package? Are you really so cynical that you would think people would lie just to get a measly $6 trillion? What kind of ugly, despicable world do you think we live in?

 

[Nehemiah6]

On another note, Trump publicly acknowledged that it was God that protected him that day. But he did not follow through at the RNC convention by ensuring that the Republican party did not condone same-sex marriage, or condone a Sikh woman praying to her god at that convention.

No doubt Harmeet Dhillon has been a great help to Trump, But waheguru is not the true God. "Waheguru is described and envisioned as a formless and omnipresent deity by Sikhs with whom a devotee is able to establish a personal relationship with by following the teachings of the Sikh Gurus". (Wikipedia)

What is more serious is condoning same-sex marriage. The party original believed that marriage was between one man and one woman. So if Trump is going to condone sexual perversion (a sin) how can he expect God's blessings? Was their no Christian who tgalked to him about this?

 

[Susanna]

On another note, Trump publicly acknowledged that it was God that protected him that day. But he did not follow through at the RNC convention by ensuring that the Republican party did not condone same-sex marriage, or condone a Sikh woman praying to her god at that convention.

No doubt Harmeet Dhillon has been a great help to Trump, But waheguru is not the true God. "Waheguru is described and envisioned as a formless and omnipresent deity by Sikhs with whom a devotee is able to establish a personal relationship with by following the teachings of the Sikh Gurus". (Wikipedia)

What is more serious is condoning same-sex marriage. The party original believed that marriage was between one man and one woman. So if Trump is going to condone sexual perversion (a sin) how can he expect God's blessings? Was their no Christian who tgalked to him about this?

This is not a theocracy. If people want to sin it’s between them and God.

 

[ZNP]

On another note, Trump publicly acknowledged that it was God that protected him that day. But he did not follow through at the RNC convention by ensuring that the Republican party did not condone same-sex marriage, or condone a Sikh woman praying to her god at that convention.

No doubt Harmeet Dhillon has been a great help to Trump, But waheguru is not the true God. "Waheguru is described and envisioned as a formless and omnipresent deity by Sikhs with whom a devotee is able to establish a personal relationship with by following the teachings of the Sikh Gurus". (Wikipedia)

What is more serious is condoning same-sex marriage. The party original believed that marriage was between one man and one woman. So if Trump is going to condone sexual perversion (a sin) how can he expect God's blessings? Was their no Christian who tgalked to him about this?

Trump is God's instrument for retribution, not for salvation. He is the jawbone of an ass God will use to destroy the Philistines. You can liken Trump to Jehu, the king that killed Jezebel. He was used by God to fulfill prophecies but was not in any way seen as a Godly man.

 

[ZNP]

This is not a theocracy. If people want to sin it’s between them and God.

Isn't that what he said? It is between them and God so therefore we will see God respond. That is what the New Testament says, that is what the book of Revelation says. Jesus said "as you have done it will be done to you".

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Sometimes I wonder if people understand that Jesus is never going to run for the POTUS.
You have the choice on the battle box (courtesy of Biden). God will install/remove and use the leader according to his purpose.

 

[HeIsHere]

Dan Bongino worked for the Secret Service for years and did the advance work at events just like these. He said if you are not going to put someone on the roof then you get some balloons and put them up so they don't have a view of stage. Simple fix.

The director of the Secret Service said she thought it was unsafe to put people on that roof because of the slope despite having two teams of snipers on other roofs with the same slope. Instead she said she put a team in the building to secure it and yet they allowed this guy to go up onto the roof of a building they are securing, using a ladder on the outside of the building, he was up there for as much as 30 minutes, witnesses as well as the police were aware of him on the roof. So how is that "securing the building"?

There is much more to Uvalde than the police sitting outside for forty minutes while he shoots up the school despite that being contrary to police protocols, and also about the door being fixed so it could not be locked, or about him knowing which door to go into, or even about some poor guy working a part time job at a fast food restaurant having about $100k in equipment. Uvalde happens to also be where two eclipses intersected, the one in 2023 and the one in 2024. These kids were a human sacrifice to Satan.

Either you believe with your whole heart and mind in coincidences. or else you allow common sense to guide you. The odds that all these things just happened to be coincidence is less than 0.000001%

Agree,
I think we are kinda saying the same thing but I had forgotten some of the details of Uvalde.
There is more than human incompetence in both scenarios, in different ways perhaps, that is my point.

 

[HeIsHere]

This is not a theocracy. If people want to sin it’s between them and God.

Yes I do agree here.

 

[Eli1]

Except for the fact that law enforcement/Secret Security goes out in advance to plan and set up their protection for the event unlike Uvalde where they arrived on the scene as it was happening.

Completely different.

I understood that as "human element" and "retrospect" and "there's nothing that goes according to plan in war or chaos".
These are points that Susana has been saying since she has been in wars.
In war, you either freeze and you die, which is a blessing honestly compared to being injured (mentally or physically), or you make the best of the situation or, and this is the worst part, you become desensitized and become a butcher and then have dinner with your family like nothing happened.

 

[ZNP]

This is not a theocracy. If people want to sin it’s between them and God.

It is going to be Kumbaya, but I think many people do not understand what it means for the Lord to come by here. He will come as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. When He does come by here He will tear up and destroy the child traffickers, and the worshippers of Moloch. All anyone has to do is read the Bible to know what it will be like.

 

[Eli1]

Trump is as tall as a basketball player, but this little girl is his bodyguard.

 

[ZNP]

I understood that as "human element" and "retrospect" and "there's nothing that goes according to plan in war or chaos".
These are points that Susana has been saying since she has been in wars.
In war, you either freeze and you die, which is a blessing honestly compared to being injured (mentally or physically), or you make the best of the situation or, and this is the worst part, you become desensitized and become a butcher and then have dinner with your family like nothing happened.

We all agree, even Joe Biden, that nothing goes according to plan, that is why he asked Trump why he turned his head. The human element, the human error here was not about this man being on the roof that was not guarded and able to Shoot President with a clear line of sight despite more than enough time for the security detail to put a stop to it. No the human element was Trump turning his head and the bullet clipping his ear instead of blowing his head off.