Assassination attemp against Donald Trump

[Eli1]

After reading all the input here I’m sure the CC security detail would cut all slack and get every piece of significant information out to the operatives in time.

LOL

With all the DEI requirement, anyone can make it regardless of background or experience.

 

[Eli1]

No different than the police in Texas who waited until the gunman emptied his weapon in a grade school killing 21 before entering into the building.

Well said.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

Uvalde was obviously a very good analogy and I also used the same Baysian analysis on that shooting and came up with the same conclusion, the odds of the police not being involved in facilitating that is less than 0.0000001%.

Bottom line is the disgraced Sheriff on the scene with almost 350 Law Enforcement Officers is having his chorizo and eggs wrapped up in a flour/maze tortilla this morning. The Pennsylvania Officers who did not engage are enjoying a jelly filled donut today. They chose themselves over everyone else. And who knows what could have been done had they not been thinking about self first...

 

[HeIsHere]

Well said.

Except for the fact that law enforcement/Secret Security goes out in advance to plan and set up their protection for the event unlike Uvalde where they arrived on the scene as it was happening.

Completely different.

 

[ZNP]

Bottom line is the disgraced Sheriff on the scene with almost 350 Law Enforcement Officers is having his chorizo and eggs wrapped up in a flour/maze tortilla this morning. The Pennsylvania Officers who did not engage are enjoying a jelly filled donut today. They chose themselves over everyone else. And who knows what could have been done had they not been thinking about self first...

How is that the bottom line? The bottom line is that we must all appear one day before the Lord to answer for the things done in this life.

 

[ZNP]

Except for the fact that law enforcement/Secret Security goes out in advance to plan and set up their protection for the event unlike Uvalde where they arrived on the scene as it was happening.

Completely different.

What are you talking about? I have worked in several school districts. We work closely with the police who come out prior to any shooting event and plan out how we should respond, how to set up a protocol and what defensive measures to take. Each year we must start the year with a presentation by the police representative, a man who is in charge of security for our building and discuss the plan they have created. Then during the year we have a number of drills. Usually we are not told in advance of a drill and then we are graded on how well the school did on a drill. We have protocols in place for shooters outside the building as well as shooters inside the building. Uvalde had had many shooters outside the building events prior to the actual shooting in the school. So they had run through this protocol many, many times over the course of the year.

 

[Smoke]

Expecting change while doing (voting for) the same thing is the very definition of insanity. And the only wasted vote is one cast for more of this insanity.

I'm not sure why people keep repeating this made-up definition of insanity. The only thing that is insane, is that people keep trying to link it to Einstein. No evidence of this.

 

[FollowerofShiloh]

How is that the bottom line? The bottom line is that we must all appear one day before the Lord to answer for the things done in this life.

You are applying something that non believing police officers don't believe in. So they won't be thinking about such things. And probably why they self preserved themselves in these types of scenarios rather than offer themselves up as a sacrifice for the better good of humanity.

 

[Smoke]

Bottom line is the disgraced Sheriff on the scene with almost 350 Law Enforcement Officers is having his chorizo and eggs wrapped up in a flour/maze tortilla this morning. The Pennsylvania Officers who did not engage are enjoying a jelly filled donut today. They chose themselves over everyone else. And who knows what could have been done had they not been thinking about self first...

 

[HeIsHere]

What are you talking about? I have worked in several school districts. We work closely with the police who come out prior to any shooting event and plan out how we should respond, how to set up a protocol and what defensive measures to take. Each year we must start the year with a presentation by the police representative, a man who is in charge of security for our building and discuss the plan they have created. Then during the year we have a number of drills. Usually we are not told in advance of a drill and then we are graded on how well the school did on a drill. We have protocols in place for shooters outside the building as well as shooters inside the building. Uvalde had had many shooters outside the building events prior to the actual shooting in the school. So they had run through this protocol many, many times over the course of the year.

Practice drills, lock downs and hold and secure are not comparable to preparing, planning and securing a space in advance where a former president of the United States is going to speak.

 

[ZNP]

I'm not sure why people keep repeating this made-up definition of insanity. The only thing that is insane, is that people keep trying to link it to Einstein. No evidence of this.

Some people say that insanity is a rational adjustment to an insane world. Others say that insanity is rare in individuals, but in groups and parties it is the rule. Others simply define insanity as any response that is not status quo. Some define love as insanity. Others say it is hereditary, you get it from your children.

 

[tourist]

If Trump wins then after 4 years he’s not supposed to be able to run anymore,Is this right?Two terms Is the max?

What If after 4 years when he Is suppose to leave,Senator/Vice President JD Vance decides not to accept the electoral votes does this mean Trump can stay In office”

If Trump wins in November he must leave office on Jan 20, 2029. Two terms is the max. It is possible to serve more than 2 full terms if a presidency started after 2 years of the previous term, say in the case that the previous president died in office, resigned or impeached and convicted in the Senate. None of this applies to Trump. If he wins, it's 4 years and then done.

 

[ZNP]

Practice drills, lock downs and hold and secure are not comparable to preparing, planning and securing a space in advance where a former president of the United States is going to speak.

So preparing and securing a school in advance is not comparable to securing a place where a speech is going to be given in advance. Got it, now I will just slowly back away, no sudden moves to alarm you...

 

[HeIsHere]

Israel put on a public show of religion, but neglected the orphan & the poor and needy, and showed contempt for the foreigners sojourning among them. They gave gifts to the rich and boasted in themselves while robbing widows. With their mouths they gave service to the LORD, but with their hearts they served mammon.

These are the things they were rebuked for, and sinners and prostitutes entered the kingdom before them.

I am not understanding how ancient Israel and modern day USA compare, they do not.

 

[HeIsHere]

So preparing and securing a school in advance is not comparable to securing a place where a speech is going to be given in advance. Got it, now I will just slowly back away, no sudden moves to alarm you...

The analogy would be better if the undercover police/principal/VP knowingly let in the shooter knowing full well he/she had a gun and was planning on using it.

Or maybe purposely leaving a door unlocked so the shooter could enter.

 

[ZNP]

I am not understanding how ancient Israel and modern day USA compare, they do not.

Of course they do.

1. Ancient Israel was divided into two kingdoms, the ten tribes and the two tribes. Modern day USA has 49% of the world's Jews while Israel has 49%, two kingdoms.

2. Ancient Israel was given God's word, God's covenant. That is what it meant to be the chosen people, they were chosen to bring God's word to the world as their prophets and Torah said. Modern day USA has been given the Bible and the New Testament, they have God's covenant. They also have been chosen to bring God's word to the world. The Gideons international has given out 2.6 billion bibles worldwide and that is only one aspect of the missionary work funded by the US. No other country does that.

3. When the Puritans landed on Plymouth Rock they made a sacred contract with God to dedicate this land to Him as a light set on a hill. Very much like Ancient Israel.

 

[ZNP]

The analogy would be better if the undercover police/principal/VP knowingly let in the shooter knowing full well he/she had a gun and was planning on using it.

Or maybe purposely leaving a door unlocked so the shooter could enter.

Yes, that is what happened in Uvalde. Perhaps you were sharing your opinion without knowing all the facts.

 

[ZNP]

What does it mean that there are layers to security.

One person on this thread pointed out that no one is perfect, that they will make mistakes. This is fully understood in security.

For example they scouted out the place and didn't put people on that roof because "it was slanted". I think that was clearly a mistake. Let's assume a mistake like this can be attributed to human error 1% of the time.

Second, letting this kid through the perimeter with a rifle was clearly a mistake. Again, that could be human error 1% of the time.

Third the Secret Service saw this kid using a range finder from that building and did not apprehend him and question him. OK, 1% of the time.

Fourth, witnesses and police saw this person with a rifle on the roof and did not stop him. OK, 1% of the time.

Fifth the snipers saw him, had them in their sights and would have stopped him by shooting him if their boss had given them the OK, but the boss refused. OK, 1% of the time.

Sixth, the person was seen climbing up on the roof 30 minutes before shooting Trump and was in the sights of the sniper for 3 minutes who was in communication with the team for that time but they never pulled Trump off the X. OK, 1% of the time.

But the odds that all six of these errors taking place together is not 1%, it is .01x.01x.01x.01x.01x.01 =.000000000001, or .0000000001% chance. I'll focus on this being a set up with the palace guard involved as the odds are 99.999999999% chance I am right.

I will also assume that anyone still pushing this lone wolf theory in the media is working with the killers as are those who are trolls on the internet. Obviously some will simply be useful idiots, but again, it is foolish to assume someone is an idiot until you have eliminated the possibility that they are actually involved in the treasonous plot.

Then I will look at other things to prove that Trump really does have enemies so evil and desperate to do this. You have the polls, the lawfare, and the words from Biden and the media all corroborate this theory.

 

[HeIsHere]

Of course they do.

1. Ancient Israel was divided into two kingdoms, the ten tribes and the two tribes. Modern day USA has 49% of the world's Jews while Israel has 49%, two kingdoms.

2. Ancient Israel was given God's word, God's covenant. That is what it meant to be the chosen people, they were chosen to bring God's word to the world as their prophets and Torah said. Modern day USA has been given the Bible and the New Testament, they have God's covenant. They also have been chosen to bring God's word to the world. The Gideons international has given out 2.6 billion bibles worldwide and that is only one aspect of the missionary work funded by the US. No other country does that.

3. When the Puritans landed on Plymouth Rock they made a sacred contract with God to dedicate this land to Him as a light set on a hill. Very much like Ancient Israel.

Right.
Kinda like the Book of Mormon

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes, that is what happened in Uvalde. Perhaps you were sharing your opinion without knowing all the facts.

The teacher purposely left the door open to let the shooter in. She did leave the door open, I do not believe she did it to let the shooter in, I think she did it for convenience.

But you can believe what you want, I think you just want to debate.