Do You Hate Trump so Much You're Willing to let Biden/Harris Destroy America?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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Turn about is fair play and RA won't see this anyway. For the life of me I look at the mess the country is in and can't understand why anyone would not vote, or vote other than conservative, now that everything has been fully revealed about Biden's health. Other than just flat out hate for Trump, which I don't understand either, why would you sit back and watch this dumpster fire instead of helping us put it out?? I don't understand the apathy. I don't even have children, and if I had it would be an even bigger reason to make sure I voted the Marxists out in 2024. What is the lack of concern with Christians, this apathy? Can someone calmly explain why we should risk a Biden/Harris four years?
 

Mem

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Speaking of Alien, the movie comes to mind, particularly the moment Ripley realizes the b**ch was protecting her nest, and the brood of face huggers has been discovered (insert meme of the MSM).
 

ZNP

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why would you sit back and watch this dumpster fire instead of helping us put it out?? I don't understand the apathy. I don't even have children, and if I had it would be an even bigger reason to make sure I voted the Marxists out in 2024. What is the lack of concern with Christians, this apathy? Can someone calmly explain why we should risk a Biden/Harris four years?
To my observation the ones who are betting on an election in November leading to a new administration at the end of January coming to the rescue are the ones who are sitting back. They are not going to give up power. People who commit treason have already crossed that line and there is no going back. They will have a false flag event or we will be attacked by Russia etal. One way or the other they will do whatever is necessary to not give up power because if they do so they will hang for treason.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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To my observation the ones who are betting on an election in November leading to a new administration at the end of January coming to the rescue are the ones who are sitting back. They are not going to give up power. People who commit treason have already crossed that line and there is no going back. They will have a false flag event or we will be attacked by Russia etal. One way or the other they will do whatever is necessary to not give up power because if they do so they will hang for treason.
Whelp, you flipped that upside down! I guess I never thought about that one. You're right, they have tried everything short of killing him to stop him getting elected. That right there has to make you ask why is he worth such a huge effort.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Speaking of Alien, the movie comes to mind, particularly the moment Ripley realizes the b**ch was protecting her nest, and the brood of face huggers has been discovered (insert meme of the MSM).

I never did see that movie, now I have to go look it up! lol
 

ZNP

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Whelp, you flipped that upside down! I guess I never thought about that one. You're right, they have tried everything short of killing him to stop him getting elected. That right there has to make you ask why is he worth such a huge effort.
Because this is not about Biden, there are many in the US who have sold themselves to do sin, from human trafficking, to selling out to the globalists, the satanists, etc.

The US is the restrainer of all kinds of evil, or at least it had been while it was a Christian nation. Royalty in Eurasia as well as FreeMasons, Satanists, Islamic regime etc. all realize that for them to rise the US must fall.

Biden is simply the face on the treason.

But the beauty of how the Lord is operating is that anyone with common sense or a brain would not be supporting Biden, unless they are also caught up in the treason and corruption.

You can be sure anyone taking a strong stand for Biden now is evil to their core.
 

ZNP

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Speaking of Alien, the movie comes to mind, particularly the moment Ripley realizes the b**ch was protecting her nest, and the brood of face huggers has been discovered (insert meme of the MSM).
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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And the left has sold you the lie that Trump is the racist...


 

PennEd

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Turn about is fair play and RA won't see this anyway. For the life of me I look at the mess the country is in and can't understand why anyone would not vote, or vote other than conservative, now that everything has been fully revealed about Biden's health. Other than just flat out hate for Trump, which I don't understand either, why would you sit back and watch this dumpster fire instead of helping us put it out?? I don't understand the apathy. I don't even have children, and if I had it would be an even bigger reason to make sure I voted the Marxists out in 2024. What is the lack of concern with Christians, this apathy? Can someone calmly explain why we should risk a Biden/Harris four years?
Yes. I firmly believe that even some "Christians" would rather have America fail on every level, than vote for Trump who while President did all great things for the country.

They would rather see:

1. Endless inflation

2. LGBTQI.... Infiltrate EVERY level of society, even allowing incredible harms to ours and THEIR kids

3. Endless wars all around the world

4. A completely wide open border, EVEN if it means allowing millions of illegals, criminals, and foreign nationals that want to destroy us.

5. Utter mayhem and crime on our streets. Letting out dangerous felons, and having ZERO bail programs.

6. Abortion on demand, up to and including AFTER the child is born in some cases.

The list goes on, but yes, these people hate President Trump THAT much they would rather see the country destroyed than him in office.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Yes. I firmly believe that even some "Christians" would rather have America fail on every level, than vote for Trump who while President did all great things for the country.

They would rather see:

1. Endless inflation

2. LGBTQI.... Infiltrate EVERY level of society, even allowing incredible harms to ours and THEIR kids

3. Endless wars all around the world

4. A completely wide open border, EVEN if it means allowing millions of illegals, criminals, and foreign nationals that want to destroy us.

5. Utter mayhem and crime on our streets. Letting out dangerous felons, and having ZERO bail programs.

6. Abortion on demand, up to and including AFTER the child is born in some cases.

The list goes on, but yes, these people hate President Trump THAT much they would rather see the country destroyed than him in office.


It's a great pity, but I believe you are right.
 

ZNP

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It's a great pity, but I believe you are right.
Hey this is how you get people to repent. When the collapse comes and it will be epic, it will cause people to be sorrowful unto repentance. Not all, some vessels are unto dishonor, but for the vessels that are unto honor this could be what finally gets them to repent.
 

Bob-Carabbio

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why would you sit back and watch this dumpster fire instead of helping us put it out??


Because you won't "put anything out", and in the final analysis, you will do nothing but add to the confusion.

In case you haven't figured it out God raises, and God diminishes. The United states appears to have run its course, and is in a death spiral as all "Political systems" do. Thanks to the politicos, and the Media, People in the U.S. no longer trust their institutions, and we all know that we're helpless against it. The U.S. has largely turned it's back on any sort of "righteousness" and is accelerating in its human progress toward practicing and glorifying EVIL"

Can someone calmly explain why we should risk a Biden/Harris four years?
If our Courts are Corrupt, and our Congress is Corrupt, then it's OVER, and whoever is giving the marching orders behind the scenes will remain in power, regardless of the "Figurehead" that we place in office. It won't effect me, but I'd hate to be my Great Grand kids in the future.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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I don't think it matters who wins. America has sinned and it's beyond returning back to God. So no specific Party is doing anything to this Nation because God is fulfilling His Plan. Eventually, no matter who is in Office, the USA is going to turn against Israel.

Look at half the things Biden wanted to accomplish but the Republican House stopped.

Look at the things when Trump was in Office that could not pass because the House was Democrat.

Who cares who is President, if you don't have the House or Senate nothing is getting passed.

So even if Trump was in Office now the Senate would stop 80% of what he wanted passed.

It's a complete wash and God will have His way ultimately.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Hey this is how you get people to repent. When the collapse comes and it will be epic, it will cause people to be sorrowful unto repentance. Not all, some vessels are unto dishonor, but for the vessels that are unto honor this could be what finally gets them to repent.

I think 911 did that for some people. I hope they were sincere and that they are still faithful today and it wasn't just fear making the decision.
 

Nehemiah6

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For the life of me I look at the mess the country is in and can't understand why anyone would not vote, or vote other than conservative...
I'm not sure about anyone assessing the Christian vote at this time. Christians generally do not want lawlessness, higher crime, etc. So they cannot in good conscience vote for Biden. So the choice as to whom to vote for is pretty obvious.

But the "Republicans" have done absolutely nothing to ensure that any future election is not going to be stolen. And the Democrats love this apathy (or whatever you want to call it). So the plan from the Left is to have Biden remain a candidate and then simply steal the election once again. If they could do it once and get away with it, they beliee they can do it twice and remain in power indefinitely. And since the Supreme Court has now gone rogue regarding the Constitution, they will sit back and do nothing.

At the same time, we cannot forget that God sees all this, and He does have the power to intervene. For all we know, Biden could be dead tomorrow. Then all the evil schemes from the Left will come to nothing.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I don't think it matters who wins. America has sinned and it's beyond returning back to God. So no specific Party is doing anything to this Nation because God is fulfilling His Plan. Eventually, no matter who is in Office, the USA is going to turn against Israel.
I do realize that the US will turn on Israel, you can see how fast that can happen. But I don't believe America as a country was ever going to repent. I believe that is only Israel.




Look at half the things Biden wanted to accomplish but the Republican House stopped.

Look at the things when Trump was in Office that could not pass because the House was Democrat.

Who cares who is President, if you don't have the House or Senate nothing is getting passed.

So even if Trump was in Office now the Senate would stop 80% of what he wanted passed.

It's a complete wash and God will have His way ultimately.

So are we saying that there is no longer a reason to vote? We have fallen so far that voting isn't worth the effort?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I'm not sure about anyone assessing the Christian vote at this time. Christians generally do not want lawlessness, higher crime, etc. So they cannot in good conscience vote for Biden. So the choice as to whom to vote for is pretty obvious.

But the "Republicans" have done absolutely nothing to ensure that any future election is not going to be stolen. And the Democrats love this apathy (or whatever you want to call it). So the plan from the Left is to have Biden remain a candidate and then simply steal the election once again. If they could do it once and get away with it, they beliee they can do it twice and remain in power indefinitely. And since the Supreme Court has now gone rogue regarding the Constitution, they will sit back and do nothing.

At the same time, we cannot forget that God sees all this, and He does have the power to intervene. For all we know, Biden could be dead tomorrow. Then all the evil schemes from the Left will come to nothing.
I agree the Repbs. have continually shot themselves in the foot. I think there is a wrestling match going on there also even though they have all agreed Trump is the head of the ticket. They seem to have no one strong enough to stand up and lead and say "this is what we stand for, period". They all talk a good talk, but when you turn around for support, they all scatter.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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I do realize that the US will turn on Israel, you can see how fast that can happen. But I don't believe America as a country was ever going to repent. I believe that is only Israel.
Just pointing out that America has to fulfill every Nation will turn on Israel and a Repented and Godly America cannot do that.
So are we saying that there is no longer a reason to vote? We have fallen so far that voting isn't worth the effort?
There's always a Reason to vote for Beliefs that align to God's Holy Word. But neither Party could stand before God and be allowed to enter into Heaven at their current idealism.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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I love Trump and Biden so much that I obey God:

"I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers,​
intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; For​
kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet​
and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good​
and acceptable in The Sight of God our Saviour" (1 Timothy 2:1-3 AV)​
So, since B-C is probably...:
God raises, and God diminishes
...Correct, as in Daniel 2:21 AV, then I don't have to worry about it one bit, eh?

Amen.