Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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Where do you see a link in scripture between those who believe a man's will is free, and those who have been taken captive by the devil and those who are hostile in mind towards God.
Surely, to be "taken captive" one must first be free, as Paul in Romans 7 says he was, before sin took him captive thriugh the law. You can't take captive someone who is allegedly already your child and your captive at conception.
Surely, to be "taken captive" one must first be free, as Paul in Romans 7 says he was, before sin took him captive thriugh the law. You can't take captive someone who is allegedly already your child and your captive at conception.
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Interesting story. And the megabytes of irony with HL's documentary and book is that about a year after my conversion, I disavowed Historic Premillennialism and it's extreme cousin Dispensationalism. But it goes to show how how an infinitely wise God can even use error to bring someone to himself. So, I'm naturally hoping to see HL in heaven. Want to thank him personally. 
You are straw-manning. You are citing others, but are inserting your erroneous and unbiblical definitions of their words into their statements, instead if applying their own biblical definitions of their own words into their statements. If you disagree that someone's definition is unbiblical, you need to offer a persuasive argument for your own definition, and not just declare your definition biblically-based on your presumption of your having some divinely imparted gnosis.
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Correct. The faith required and which pleases God is accordong to yhe light one has. The objects of faith required of unreached tribes in jungles is not the same as the objects God requires one who has the old testament to believe. And God is pleased with faith in a broader range objects if one has heard the full gospel.
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We need more context here, please.
What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known
what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was
if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”
But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting.
For apart from the law, sin was dead.
Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.
I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death.
Romans 7:7-10
Paul, while alive as a human, while he did not know the law?
At that time he was yet dead to the law.
While dead to the law? He did not know what sin was.
But when the Law was learned by him?
His old (carefree) life had died.
For the Law and the knowledge of sin produced what in Paul?
It had killed his ability to be living his old carefree life!
Hence? ... "He died!"
grace and peace .......
What shall we say, then? Is the law sinful? Certainly not! Nevertheless, I would not have known
what sin was had it not been for the law. For I would not have known what coveting really was
if the law had not said, “You shall not covet.”
But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of coveting.
For apart from the law, sin was dead.
Once I was alive apart from the law; but when the commandment came, sin sprang to life and I died.
I found that the very commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death.
Romans 7:7-10
Paul, while alive as a human, while he did not know the law?
At that time he was yet dead to the law.
While dead to the law? He did not know what sin was.
But when the Law was learned by him?
His old (carefree) life had died.
For the Law and the knowledge of sin produced what in Paul?
It had killed his ability to be living his old carefree life!
Hence? ... "He died!"
grace and peace .......
Shirely U. Jest. I have all the appreciation in the world! Besides, the bible tells us how God works with fallen human nature: It's called Resurrection or the New Birth. You should read the bible of which you boast you understand so well and learn about these two concepts and then explain to me how men can restore spiritual life to their own souls. Perhaps you can find for us a passage somewhere that teaches that mortal men have the power to raise the physically dead. Now...if you found something like that that would bring much credibility to your false gospel. I would be able to reason, then, that if mere mortals can do that, then maybe we can raise ourselves spiritually and reconnect with the Life of God. But anything short of this then I'm supposed to believe that there is such an animal on this planet as a free slave, and just conveniently ignore the fact that such an absurd notion violates the Law of Noncontradiction. And if that weren't bad enough, then I'd also have believe that an all-wise God was really sloppy in his metaphors. Why use "death" if natural man suffered a mere flesh wound from which he could heal himself?
Have you not heard, all men became automaton's at the fall, not only are they completely and utterly programmed,
they are devoid of rational thought,
love,
compassion,
ability to make moral choices,
ability to reason,
ability to respond to the Gospel truth.
No, no we can't have that, the Gospel is now a gnostic enterprise, only for the special illuminated
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