Are there any natural remedies for extreme neurapathy pain that actually work??

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Aslanfriend

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My husband was recently diagnosed with LADA (Latent Adult Diabetes) Type 1 and has been in such severe pain it's hard to watch. The doctors won't give him anything for the pain itself. They have him Gabapentin first, then Cymbalta, and now he's on Lyrica. He's even tried CBD and that doesn't remove pain either. NONE do anything for the pain he's experiencing. And of course they won't give him anything like a narcotic for good reason. People get addicted and the hospital doesn't want another pill-addict on their hands. But in the meantime he can't work, can't drive, can't even get out of bed except to eat meals and his bathroom needs. The Insulin is NOT lowering his blood sugar like it should even though he eats SUPER low carb....mainly meat and veggies and some dairy and nuts. No one (at hospital) seems to care despite his pain he deals with all day and all night......And yes, we've told them all the same stuff i'm sharing in this post.

Also he wakes me up literally every hour or 2 and cries to me how much it hurts. I can't help crying in sympathy for him, but there's nothing i can do but keep praying that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm starting to lose hope that this is our lives now.....crying together in pain. We are trying to remain positive, but it's hard not to lose hope. I"m already there, i think, though since i've struggled with depression on and off since high school. I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post since what we really need is a miracle at this point, not another salve or pill that doesn't work. He's also tried various creams and salves = also no pain relief at all.
 

Snackersmom

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I am so sorry you and your husband are going through this, I will pray!

I know you want a miracle and that is what I will pray for, but I thought it worth mentioning epsom salts as well. They are very inexpensive and very effective for nerve pain. Might be worth a try if his doctor isn't opposed to it.

God bless you for supporting him during this difficult trial! (y)
 

AzureAfire

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I’m sad to hear that your husband is suffering from this recently diagnosed condition of LADA type 1 🥺 I’m a physician here in my country. What part of his body is currently experiencing severe pain? Have any scans like MRI been done thus far? He might be suffering from musculoskeletal circulatory complications secondary to poorly controlled blood sugar levels, since he’s responding poorly to insulin. When severe enough, uncontrolled high blood sugar levels could cause loss of blood circulation to muscles and bone, causing infarction (tissue death due to lack of blood oxygen), and even weakening of bone leading to fractures. That might be what’s causing the severe pain he’s experiencing, if not a more generalised inflammation of vessels and nerves due to the high blood sugar levels.

If regular insulin shots aren’t working, he might need to be admitted at the hospital to have an insulin drip to better regulate the blood sugar level, and his diet might need to be modified by their dietary team to prevent further blood sugar spikes.

Stronger analgesics might have to be used coz his pain symptoms are not alleviated by the usual pain meds for neuropathic pain. I know you’re concerned that he might develop a dependency to certain stronger pain meds. But if his quality of life is terribly reduced, such that he can’t even get a good night’s sleep, then he most certainly will have trouble recovering from his condition, coz stress-induced hormones like cortisol could further increase his blood sugar levels and insulin resistance. When done short term, meds like morphine will not cause problematic drug dependency. What matters now is optimal pain control on top of effective blood sugar control. There is no strong natural pain remedies I can think of that could help your patient right now, unfortunately.

I hope my input here helps. I’ll be praying for you and your husband, and entire family 🥺🙏🏼💖💫🌟 if there’s any other way I could help as a doctor, please let me know. GOD bless you and your husband both, and may HIS awesome grace, mercy, healing, and love be upon your husband, as HE grants him peace and comfort during this difficult time.
 

AzureAfire

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LADA type 1 is an autoimmune type of diabetes, meaning that one’s own antibodies are attacking the cells that produce insulin. On top of that, cell receptors where insulin binds to promote the uptake of blood sugar into the cells are also affected, so the insulin present or injected into the body does not work.

A combination of anti-inflammatory medication that will help suppress the cells that attack those that produce insulin and it’s receptors along with insulin and its analogues are necessary to achieve effective blood sugar control and help prevent complications like diabetic neuropathy or nerve damage, as well as inflammation to capillaries or small blood vessels to vulnerable parts of the body, such as circulation to the eyes, kidneys and lower extremities, which are commonly affected by poorly controlled diabetes.

I hope and pray that your family could find a good Diabetologist to help your husband get better 🙏🏼💖💫🌟 and to prevent other complications.

Good nutrition with foods that have low glycemic indices, rich in vitamins and antioxidants to help control the inflammation, exercise, massage to improve circulation, soaking in warm baths, and regular check-ups to monitor fasting blood glucose, Hba1c, complete blood count, C-reactive protein, B-cell and T-cell levels, serum electrolytes and albumin levels, and watching out for signs of infection in the body are essential. But first things first: blood sugar control ASAP. If his blood sugar levels are consistently high, and his pain isn’t managed, don’t hesitate to have him admitted so further testing and scans could be done.

I hope these additional information helps, too. I’ll share any other helpful information I could find in connection to LADA type 1.
 

Deuteronomy

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Hello @Aslanfriend, I am so sorry to hear about your husband's chronic pain :( I never realized how horrible it really is until I had to live with it for awhile myself.

Here's what I've experienced of chronic pain, and what ended up working to cure it, for both me and for my father. I don't know that any of this will do your husband any good, but here it is, just in case.

My chronic pain was due to a pinched nerve in my back, and pain killers, even powerful ones like Oxy, did nothing to stop it or lesson it, though it did knock me out enough to sleep for 2-3 hours, PTL. Nerve pain, I have come to find out, does not respond well, or at all, to the types of pain killers that we normally use for muscular/skeleton types of pain.

I finally looked for an alternative to standard medicine (because nothing that my regular doctors tried worked on my nerve pain) and I ended up with a chiropractor who fixed the problem and all the pain that I was in went away (he made adjustments to my back and put me in traction, and it took about 8 weeks of bi-weekly visits altogether).

My dad had a neuropathy and the pain (that was actually coming from his destroyed hips) presented on top of his right foot. No one around here could figure it out, so they sent him to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN, and they finally did, PTL. The cure, in my dad's case, was two total hip replacements, and once they figured out the source of the pain, they injected a steroid into his hips to relieve most of his pain until his hip replacement surgeries were complete.

You could call the Mayo Clinic and see if they can help your husband (as they are often able to correctly diagnose and then fix obscure medical problems that even the best of our local doctors and hospitals cannot. We also talked to MANY others while we were there with stories like my father's, of going to Mayo Clinic and being healed, that is, after their local doctors and hospitals had all given up on them). Perhaps it would be worth a call to see what they have to say.

God bless you both!!

~Deuteronomy (David)
 

notmyown

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LADA type 1 is an autoimmune type of diabetes, meaning that one’s own antibodies are attacking the cells that produce insulin. On top of that, cell receptors where insulin binds to promote the uptake of blood sugar into the cells are also affected, so the insulin present or injected into the body does not work.

A combination of anti-inflammatory medication that will help suppress the cells that attack those that produce insulin and it’s receptors along with insulin and its analogues are necessary to achieve effective blood sugar control and help prevent complications like diabetic neuropathy or nerve damage, as well as inflammation to capillaries or small blood vessels to vulnerable parts of the body, such as circulation to the eyes, kidneys and lower extremities, which are commonly affected by poorly controlled diabetes.

I hope and pray that your family could find a good Diabetologist to help your husband get better 🙏🏼💖💫🌟 and to prevent other complications.

Good nutrition with foods that have low glycemic indices, rich in vitamins and antioxidants to help control the inflammation, exercise, massage to improve circulation, soaking in warm baths, and regular check-ups to monitor fasting blood glucose, Hba1c, complete blood count, C-reactive protein, B-cell and T-cell levels, serum electrolytes and albumin levels, and watching out for signs of infection in the body are essential. But first things first: blood sugar control ASAP. If his blood sugar levels are consistently high, and his pain isn’t managed, don’t hesitate to have him admitted so further testing and scans could be done.

I hope these additional information helps, too. I’ll share any other helpful information I could find in connection to LADA type 1.
i wonder if it might be helpful to the OP for you to advise on the discontinuation of gabapentinoids?

we're so blessed to have you posting here.
 

Jimbone

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My husband was recently diagnosed with LADA (Latent Adult Diabetes) Type 1 and has been in such severe pain it's hard to watch. The doctors won't give him anything for the pain itself. They have him Gabapentin first, then Cymbalta, and now he's on Lyrica. He's even tried CBD and that doesn't remove pain either. NONE do anything for the pain he's experiencing. And of course they won't give him anything like a narcotic for good reason. People get addicted and the hospital doesn't want another pill-addict on their hands. But in the meantime he can't work, can't drive, can't even get out of bed except to eat meals and his bathroom needs. The Insulin is NOT lowering his blood sugar like it should even though he eats SUPER low carb....mainly meat and veggies and some dairy and nuts. No one (at hospital) seems to care despite his pain he deals with all day and all night......And yes, we've told them all the same stuff i'm sharing in this post.

Also he wakes me up literally every hour or 2 and cries to me how much it hurts. I can't help crying in sympathy for him, but there's nothing i can do but keep praying that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm starting to lose hope that this is our lives now.....crying together in pain. We are trying to remain positive, but it's hard not to lose hope. I"m already there, i think, though since i've struggled with depression on and off since high school. I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post since what we really need is a miracle at this point, not another salve or pill that doesn't work. He's also tried various creams and salves = also no pain relief at all.
I'm curious about the type of pain he is having. I have no clue if what I went through with the pain in my arm after a motorcycle wreak is anything like what he feels, but I know it wasn't like regular pain and NEVER stopped no matter the meds. I also want to let you know from the jump that my answer is not what you're asking for, it's not a natural miracle thing I found helped.

I'm sharing this because I had an injury that "unplugged" the nerve that controls my arm and right peck from my spine. An injury they can't repair yet. That aside I can not feel my right arm at all. Just "feels" like numbness if I think about it and try to feel something. I could literally push a knife threw any part of my arm from the shoulder down, slowly without feeling a thing. So theoretically shouldn't "feel" any kind of pain from it at all.

Well that's what one would think, but my arm would hurt everyday all day. The only time I would not feel any pain was in that state right between sleep and waking up, but I couldn't make myself "by" in that state at will, and it was only a few minutes at most. The doctors could and did prescribe me narcotics and they didn't work on the pain I was feeling. They'd take the edge off a little, but it just wasn't that kind of pain. I believe it was more like what they call Fibromyalgia, more what I've heard people who had it describe the pain, not so much what the medical description says about it. But in constant waves all day my arm would feel like it was on fire while being crushed in a vice. I mean having me gritting my teeth hunched over trying my hardest now to scream and holler in pain, but more out of frustration. It hurt like this all day, every day. I was also addicted to pain pills before my accident and had started the methadone clinic to get on a schedule to start getting everything lined up to get off the pills completely. That was my plan, but the wreak threw all that out the window. They tried the pain pills for a while but I knew I didn't even want to go back down that road and they weren't working anyway. I decided at that point that I'd just go back and pick up where I left off at the clinic and just move on from there.

The doctor I was seeing contacted the Methadone Clinic doctor and after they spoke decided to get me back on the routine. My doctor just prescribed them to me so I could take them twice a day and I did. To my great amazement and joy they worked. I don't know how or why they work with this weird kind of pain while other very heavy narcotics don't, but they honestly stopped to 2 years of constant pain right away. I don't take very much at all, do not get any kind of "buzz" or high, but taking a small dose a day keeps my arm from hurting.

I honestly HATE being dependent on a drug, especially this drug with such a horrible stigma around it, but I know what it's like to be up at night crying in pain. I know it from the other side as you do, but I really hated that my wife and sons had to see me hurting so bad. I hated doing that to them. I will pray for you and him, and I know this most likely isn't even an option for him, but I know when nothing else can touch this kind of "phantom pain", and it hurts so bad with no visible solution how hopeless it can seem. This is why I wanted to share. I just found something that help, for a price.
 

Karlon

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My husband was recently diagnosed with LADA (Latent Adult Diabetes) Type 1 and has been in such severe pain it's hard to watch. The doctors won't give him anything for the pain itself. They have him Gabapentin first, then Cymbalta, and now he's on Lyrica. He's even tried CBD and that doesn't remove pain either. NONE do anything for the pain he's experiencing. And of course they won't give him anything like a narcotic for good reason. People get addicted and the hospital doesn't want another pill-addict on their hands. But in the meantime he can't work, can't drive, can't even get out of bed except to eat meals and his bathroom needs. The Insulin is NOT lowering his blood sugar like it should even though he eats SUPER low carb....mainly meat and veggies and some dairy and nuts. No one (at hospital) seems to care despite his pain he deals with all day and all night......And yes, we've told them all the same stuff i'm sharing in this post.

Also he wakes me up literally every hour or 2 and cries to me how much it hurts. I can't help crying in sympathy for him, but there's nothing i can do but keep praying that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm starting to lose hope that this is our lives now.....crying together in pain. We are trying to remain positive, but it's hard not to lose hope. I"m already there, i think, though since i've struggled with depression on and off since high school. I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post since what we really need is a miracle at this point, not another salve or pill that doesn't work. He's also tried various creams and salves = also no pain relief at all.
tell him to drink Switchell. it's a drink developed in south america for the purpose of the farmer on his tractor not having to go all the way back to the house to get something to drink. ingredients: 8 ounces of water, 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon, 2-3 tablespoons of honey & some apple cider vinegar. drink it 3 times a day: in the a.m., noon & at night b4 u go 2 bed. it prevents from being thirsty. but unbeknownst to people, it was later discovered as a healer for diabetes. i talked to a guy who drank it & his diabetes was cured. as for neuropathy, stop all caffeine intake & drink small amounts of extra virgin olive oil 2 to 3 times a day. if you don't want to drink it, pour it on your food.
 

Karlon

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supplemental to the above: the best results are also by eliminating all white sugar & white floured foods. in fact, eat only organic.
 

Genez

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My husband was recently diagnosed with LADA (Latent Adult Diabetes) Type 1 and has been in such severe pain it's hard to watch. The doctors won't give him anything for the pain itself. They have him Gabapentin first, then Cymbalta, and now he's on Lyrica. He's even tried CBD and that doesn't remove pain either. NONE do anything for the pain he's experiencing. And of course they won't give him anything like a narcotic for good reason. People get addicted and the hospital doesn't want another pill-addict on their hands. But in the meantime he can't work, can't drive, can't even get out of bed except to eat meals and his bathroom needs. The Insulin is NOT lowering his blood sugar like it should even though he eats SUPER low carb....mainly meat and veggies and some dairy and nuts. No one (at hospital) seems to care despite his pain he deals with all day and all night......And yes, we've told them all the same stuff i'm sharing in this post.

Also he wakes me up literally every hour or 2 and cries to me how much it hurts. I can't help crying in sympathy for him, but there's nothing i can do but keep praying that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm starting to lose hope that this is our lives now.....crying together in pain. We are trying to remain positive, but it's hard not to lose hope. I"m already there, i think, though since i've struggled with depression on and off since high school. I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post since what we really need is a miracle at this point, not another salve or pill that doesn't work. He's also tried various creams and salves = also no pain relief at all.
You want to target the cause, not simply dulling the pain.

There are more, but for now here are some things that the pharmaceutically indoctrinated doctors will not tell you.

Reducing nerve pain (neuropathy) caused by diabetes. Taking acetyl-L-carnitine seems to improve symptoms in people with nerve pain caused by diabetes. Acetyl-L-carnitine seems to work best in people who have not had diabetes for a long time or who have poorly controlled type 2 diabetes. Also, doses of 1000 mg taken two or three times daily seems to work better than doses of 500 mg three times daily.

For Dietary Supplementation "I've taken 600 mg. stabilized R-Lipoic Acid since 2009 for tingling in arms and legs (Paresthesia). My Neurologist and Internist both told me to get stabilized and make sure it is R, not S or S/R. It was that or Gabapentin. After discussing those options with my doctors I chose ALA and never looked back. I take two 300 mg. capsules as needed. The ALA gets into your system and stops the tingling, prickling when it does. I can go a week or 2 off of it because the symptoms go away and I forget about taking it, but when it completely leaves my system the tingling restarts so I get back on it and within a day or so the tingling is gone again. The capsules are large so either eat before taking or drink plenty of water afterwards or your stomach can feel like it's burning."
Which is better, R alpha-lipoic acid or R lipoic acid?

The “R” form is the biologically active component (native to the body) that is responsible for lipoic acid's phenomenal antioxidant effect. The “S” form is produced from chemical manufacture and is not very biologically active. Alpha lipoic acid supplements consist of the “R” and “S” form in a 50/50 ratio.

grace and peace , GeneZ
 

HealthAndHappiness

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My husband was recently diagnosed with LADA (Latent Adult Diabetes) Type 1 and has been in such severe pain it's hard to watch. The doctors won't give him anything for the pain itself. They have him Gabapentin first, then Cymbalta, and now he's on Lyrica. He's even tried CBD and that doesn't remove pain either. NONE do anything for the pain he's experiencing. And of course they won't give him anything like a narcotic for good reason. People get addicted and the hospital doesn't want another pill-addict on their hands. But in the meantime he can't work, can't drive, can't even get out of bed except to eat meals and his bathroom needs. The Insulin is NOT lowering his blood sugar like it should even though he eats SUPER low carb....mainly meat and veggies and some dairy and nuts. No one (at hospital) seems to care despite his pain he deals with all day and all night......And yes, we've told them all the same stuff i'm sharing in this post.

Also he wakes me up literally every hour or 2 and cries to me how much it hurts. I can't help crying in sympathy for him, but there's nothing i can do but keep praying that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm starting to lose hope that this is our lives now.....crying together in pain. We are trying to remain positive, but it's hard not to lose hope. I"m already there, i think, though since i've struggled with depression on and off since high school. I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post since what we really need is a miracle at this point, not another salve or pill that doesn't work. He's also tried various creams and salves = also no pain relief at all.

I can understand how he doesn't want another pill.
Does he know that some medications/ chemicals actually cause diabetes?

People usually get in trouble health wise with dietary lifestyle, toxins and stress. We've all experienced the effects somehow. The next level is that rather than initiate steps in the right direction, they trust the medical system, Drs, tests, nurses, hospitals and clinics to cure them of discomfort. The most common answers they have are drugs. Most Drugs further contribute to health decline in some manner or other.

I'm sorry to hear about his suffering.
My prayers are with him. Keep us posted.

This is a class from a respected medical doctor who tells it like it is.
Will you listen to >This< with him?
Scroll down to the title, Diabetics Beware.

To his health and happiness 😊
 

HealthAndHappiness

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@AsianFriend,

I'm Glad you and your husband are open to natural health.
The above post is not medical advice and I'm not a medical doctor. The audio class is just for education. I am hopeful that it will shed light on the common treatments so a most informed decision will be made by you and your husband if you are confronted with the common meds used in diabetes and heart disease. I would look for further information as well.
Prayerfully the Lord will provide some answers and reverse your husband's diabetes.
 

Ballaurena

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My husband was recently diagnosed with LADA (Latent Adult Diabetes) Type 1 and has been in such severe pain it's hard to watch. The doctors won't give him anything for the pain itself. They have him Gabapentin first, then Cymbalta, and now he's on Lyrica. He's even tried CBD and that doesn't remove pain either. NONE do anything for the pain he's experiencing. And of course they won't give him anything like a narcotic for good reason. People get addicted and the hospital doesn't want another pill-addict on their hands. But in the meantime he can't work, can't drive, can't even get out of bed except to eat meals and his bathroom needs. The Insulin is NOT lowering his blood sugar like it should even though he eats SUPER low carb....mainly meat and veggies and some dairy and nuts. No one (at hospital) seems to care despite his pain he deals with all day and all night......And yes, we've told them all the same stuff i'm sharing in this post.

Also he wakes me up literally every hour or 2 and cries to me how much it hurts. I can't help crying in sympathy for him, but there's nothing i can do but keep praying that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm starting to lose hope that this is our lives now.....crying together in pain. We are trying to remain positive, but it's hard not to lose hope. I"m already there, i think, though since i've struggled with depression on and off since high school. I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post since what we really need is a miracle at this point, not another salve or pill that doesn't work. He's also tried various creams and salves = also no pain relief at all.
Honestly, marijuana has been shown to be more effective for neuropathic pain than traditional pain medications. My dad had neuropathic pain from undiagnosed heavy metals poisoning and was put on many of the very drugs you cite with little help. I can't say from experience whether marijuana would have helped him since he died before I read the article about it but it is probably something you should at least study up on. Remember that though the world has used it corruptly, it is part of the creation that God declared good.

Be sure to include God in all your studies, and absolutely don't forget that God heals. Also, many ailments have a spiritual component that the world doesn't recognize. For example, I started getting migraines as a child; God ultimately healed me of this affliction by both healing my liver and showing me that carrying around unforgiveness of myself also caused them
 

Karlon

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migraine headaches can be the result of a conflict within yourself. fibromyalgia can equal feeling like you're not being taken care of or you're not worthy of being cared for. asthma can be the result of being rejected & abandoned. jealousy is rottenness to the bones.