Jesus died on the cross for the just/elect/saved whose names are written in The book of life.
Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR
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You have just wiped out the whole argument of free will. Not that there was any legitimacy to it in the first place.
But this what you are saying is no better than the Calvinist idea that God ordains evil, and makes men carry it out.
Forces men to evil, fashions them for destruction, and then punishes them forever after for doing what He willed.
I think the Calvinists have already exited the thread, especially when y’all started talking about prayer.Thanks for helping this thread get to 9000 posts.
This is a specific Prophesy that had to be fulfilled to save the world. Not sure how it affects every other case for Free Will.
But Isaiah 53 says 8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away, and with his generation who did reason? for he was cut off out of the land of the living, for the transgression of my people to whom the stroke was due.
It literally is a single case.
You are making the case that God's foreknowledge and prophecy are as good as a Command because it will happen.
But it is plain God did not command anyone to kill Jesus, though you will not admit this.
Done.
Calm down, already. You're going to have a stroke.
Neither is Trinity or Incarnation found in scriprture. So you don't believe in these two doctrines? But every single team of original language scholars has inserted the term "Sovereign" (usually in caps) and used as an adjective to mean "superlative in quality", "excellent", "of the the most exalted kind". The NIV alone employs the term in the OT 303 times. From the definitions I just provided, are you going to deny that the concept of "sovereign" is not found in scripture?
But I'm not surprised that you object so vehemently and strenuously against the doctrine of the Sovereignty of God. It's typical of the NR to diminish the high and lofty and exalted status of God and instead assign it to man -- most especially to man's will and his worldly idea of what freedom is. This isn't the first time I've heard this kind of objection. Skeptics, atheists, pantheists, and others also hate the concept. It's amazing how much you NR have in common with the with these kinds of dead people.
Neither is Calvinism. I wonder will they stop using that.Calm down, already. You're going to have a stroke.
Neither is Trinity or Incarnation found in scriprture. So you don't believe in these two doctrines? But every single team of original language scholars has inserted the term "Sovereign" (usually in caps) and used as an adjective to mean "superlative in quality", "excellent", "of the the most exalted kind". The NIV alone employs the term in the OT 303 times. From the definitions I just provided, are you going to deny that the concept of "sovereign" is not found in scripture?
But I'm not surprised that you object so vehemently and strenuously against the doctrine of the Sovereignty of God. It's typical of the NR to diminish the high and lofty and exalted status of God and instead assign it to man -- most especially to man's will and his worldly idea of what freedom is. This isn't the first time I've heard this kind of objection. Skeptics, atheists, pantheists, and others also hate the concept. It's amazing how much you NR have in common with the with these kinds of dead people.
I seriously doubt the Pharisees would have killed Jesus without God Blinding them and Deafening them so they would turn on Him and fulfilled the Prophecy of Isaiah that commanded His death.
Neither is the phrase the Doctrines of Grace. But to my dying breath I will never stop using that phrase or defending what is, in essence, the heart of the Gospel of Christ. All five doctrines are found in scripture.
I find it very odd that people don't like labels: Don't know if you ever noticed or not, but this world would not be able to function without labels or names. The second thing I find very odd is why so many within the Church seem to despise the gifts God has given to his Church, such as teachers.
But the way you use it is incorrect. It's only found in the Mikra and literally means LORD GOD.Calm down, already. You're going to have a stroke.
Neither is Trinity or Incarnation found in scriprture. So you don't believe in these two doctrines? But every single team of original language scholars has inserted the term "Sovereign" (usually in caps) and used as an adjective to mean "superlative in quality", "excellent", "of the the most exalted kind". The NIV alone employs the term in the OT 303 times. From the definitions I just provided, are you going to deny that the concept of "sovereign" is not found in scripture?
But I'm not surprised that you object so vehemently and strenuously against the doctrine of the Sovereignty of God. It's typical of the NR to diminish the high and lofty and exalted status of God and instead assign it to man -- most especially to man's will and his worldly idea of what freedom is. This isn't the first time I've heard this kind of objection. Skeptics, atheists, pantheists, and others also hate the concept. It's amazing how much you NR have in common with the with these kinds of dead people.
Just stop already.
And again you defeat the free will argument.
Dinner calls. I hope your pizza was good...
It came about after the Lord had spoken these words to Job, that the Lord said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “My wrath is kindled against you and against your two friends, because you have not spoken of Me what is right as My servant Job has
Good thing Job forgave them.