The Great Blessing Of Election Unto Salvation

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3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Blessed and Happy are those who God in mercy Draws savingly to Himself. We are told by the Apostle Paul we are blessed with all spiritual blessings, what could possibly go wrong with this???
 
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MerSee said:
Why did God choose/will to create the elect? 1. : one chosen or set apart (as by divine favor) 2. elects : a select or exclusive group of people.
https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...a-select-or-exclusive-group-of-people.214624/
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Hello Friend, He loved them. because He loved them, like He said in DEut7;
6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
9 Know therefore that the Lord thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.
 
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God created Adam separate and placed him into the garden, formed eve out of his own flesh and bone.
After the corruption of the seed of man, Noah was preserved continuing the line of Adam
Abram was called out of his country and although he had 7 sons, only jacob was elected but God promised to make out of him a mighty nation and a company of nations.
God kept his promise to abraham and made out of jacob the nations to which accepted the gospel and have been the blessed of the earth for the last 2000 years
God has been preserving what satan has been corrupting and now we see the camp of the saints being surrounded by the whole of the third world who hate them and their God, to destroy those who have forgotten their God

this is paraphrased cuz its getting late but i’m willing to discuss
praise the God of Israel
 
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Iconoclast said:
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Blessed and Happy are those who God in mercy Draws savingly to Himself. We are told by the Apostle Paul we are blessed with all spiritual blessings, what could possibly go wrong with this???
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Did you forget to post the Book and Chapter where the passage pf these Scriptures are found?
 
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Jesus said, "I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture (John 10:9)." Why would Jesus speak with the conditional "if" if election (unto salvation) were unconditional? And why would he pair that conditional term with the referent(?) 'anyone'? Rather, to fit the Calvinist's "U", He would have said more specifically, "Anyone that enters through Me will be saved" or even more specifically accurate to the Calvinist "U", "Anyone that enters through Me were saved." But He didn't, even if anyone says that He actually did.
 
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MikeIsraelite72 said:
what specifically do you find “calvinistic” in what he quoted?
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This: "Blessed and Happy are those who God in mercy Draws savingly to Himself". He did not also say at the end "and he draws ALL MEN to Himself, as do the Son and the Holy Spirit".
 
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Iconoclast said:
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Blessed and Happy are those who God in mercy Draws savingly to Himself. We are told by the Apostle Paul we are blessed with all spiritual blessings, what could possibly go wrong with this???
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“what could possibly go wrong with this???”

paul warns what can go wrong later in the same letter to the same people

“Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:1-7‬ ‭

Its just that many remove that part
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Your CALVINISTIC INTERPRETATION is false. Did you not read my post? You too have been snared by a false Gospel.
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My friend, I have not interacted with you for awhile. I am not sure you can explain the biblical gospel, sohow can you suggest I have been sbared by a false one. Can you tell me what "gospel" I have been snared by? Then I will be happy to compare notes, so to speak!
 
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Pilgrimshope said:
“what could possibly go wrong with this???”

paul warns what can go wrong later in the same letter to the same people

“Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭5:1-7‬ ‭

Its just that many remove that part
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That looks to be people who do not want to obey the truth of God.I agree... that would be the path of death, not life.
 
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Mem said:
Jesus said, "I am the gate. If anyone enters through Me, he will be saved. He will come in and go out and find pasture (John 10:9)." Why would Jesus speak with the conditional "if" if election (unto salvation) were unconditional? And why would he pair that conditional term with the referent(?) 'anyone'? Rather, to fit the Calvinist's "U", He would have said more specifically, "Anyone that enters through Me will be saved" or even more specifically accurate to the Calvinist "U", "Anyone that enters through Me were saved." But He didn't, even if anyone says that He actually did.
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The wording is not conditional, but rather descriptive.ie, if so be that,

ylt....9 I am the door, through me if any one may come in, he shall be saved, and he shall come in, and go out, and find pasture.
 
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