Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[Cameron143]

Take my word for it after three decades of Republicans ruling Texas the corruption don't magically end just because their name has the big "R" after it...

It changes when there is a God before it.

 

[Cameron143]

Of course, but behind the scenes everyone running was looking for a financial benefit. One woman was certainly quite concerned about the school and her own daughters experience. But she was a real estate broker and a bank had put 15k into her campaign, that was double anyone else's campaign, and guess what, the school system was going to need to build schools in the near future. I made it very clear that I didn't care if I won or lost, my goal was to speak a warning and I wasn't a salesman. Everyone I told this to in our campaign all nodded, but as soon as the election was over they wanted me to be a pitchman for various products and when I refused they were offended.

I didn't care if I won or lost, but suppose you did? I and all the other four candidates would certainly feel beholden to the people who helped them. I didn't pay anyone and I suspect no one else paid anyone, but there is no way I could have done everything without a whole lot of help. Even if there are a few extremely altruistic people out there they are the extreme minority, and all these ones who are donating their time for free expect to get something in the event they win the election.

I got enough of a peak behind the curtain to understand. There are some very good people, well intentioned, believe they are doing the best, but in the end they are all playing the same game with the same expectation that "to the winner go the spoils".

For example I know how you can get 100% reading literacy by the sixth grade. This has been proven scientifically in over 100 studies. We have known how to do this since 1980. It doesn't cost any more than what we already spend, in fact we could easily do it for less. Yet in our city 50% of the kids are not reading proficiently by the sixth grade. That is not accidental. That is not because we just don't have the right people in place. That is a very clear goal by the ones steering the ship. Everyone else is a useful idiot.

Which goes back to my original point...it's corruption. Fix that, and good people will work out the problems.

 

[iamsoandso]

It changes when there is a God before it.

Which God though? You see in Texas it mean's that the two most powerful men who are actually running Texas are pushing Christian Nationalism. That might sound great at a glance until you realize that their idea of a real Christian is "Assembles of Yahweh 7th day"(remember Koresh,,Alex Jones ect.?)

 

[Cameron143]

Which God though? You see in Texas it mean's that the two most powerful men who are actually running Texas are pushing Christian Nationalism. That might sound great at a glance until you realize that their idea of a real Christian is "Assembles of Yahweh 7th day"(remember Koresh,,Alex Jones ect.?)

I'm talking about Spirit filled men. God leading men, regardless of occupation. But it should be true of politicians as well.
I think Christian Nationalism is overblown. A politician has a constituency. They should be his or her primary concern. Since in America that would be Americans, looking out for the needs of Americans first isn't nationalism, but the job requirement. So a Christian politician seeking the best for the Americans they are responsible for isn't "Christian Nationalism". It's the job they were hired to do.
Was God a Jewish Nationalist when He delivered the children of Israel out of Egypt?

 

[iamsoandso]

I'm talking about Spirit filled men. God leading men, regardless of occupation. But it should be true of politicians as well.
I think Christian Nationalism is overblown. A politician has a constituency. They should be his or her primary concern. Since in America that would be Americans, looking out for the needs of Americans first isn't nationalism, but the job requirement. So a Christian politician seeking the best for the Americans they are responsible for isn't "Christian Nationalism". It's the job they were hired to do.
Was God a Jewish Nationalist when He delivered the children of Israel out of Egypt?

Yep see we have two different ideas of what it even means,,,for example in Texas you set up speaker after speaker for a conference and when the list of speakers leak out in the press then all the politicians who were going to be there pretend they didn't have a clue who the people who invited them were and what they stood for... https://www.texastribune.org/2024/06/13/true-texas-project-christian-nationalism/

 

[ZNP]

Which goes back to my original point...it's corruption. Fix that, and good people will work out the problems.

No. The fundamental problem with the school system is that they have left God. No one is planning to address that so you can forget any real solutions. If you homeschool you can address that immediately.

 

[ZNP]

I'm talking about Spirit filled men. God leading men, regardless of occupation. But it should be true of politicians as well.
I think Christian Nationalism is overblown. A politician has a constituency. They should be his or her primary concern. Since in America that would be Americans, looking out for the needs of Americans first isn't nationalism, but the job requirement. So a Christian politician seeking the best for the Americans they are responsible for isn't "Christian Nationalism". It's the job they were hired to do.
Was God a Jewish Nationalist when He delivered the children of Israel out of Egypt?

Spirit filled me would be following Jesus. No one who is running for office is planning on doing that. Even if they are believers, they aren't planning on lifting up Jesus as Lord and so it is a system doomed for failure.

 

[Cameron143]

No. The fundamental problem with the school system is that they have left God. No one is planning to address that so you can forget any real solutions. If you homeschool you can address that immediately.

I agree with your premise as things exist currently. I have and do homeschool my kids through high school...except one who wanted to go to public high school. But while we are only one, one is always the beginning. And we can't do all things, but we can do some things. And by God's grace, we ought to.

 

[Cameron143]

Spirit filled me would be following Jesus. No one who is running for office is planning on doing that. Even if they are believers, they aren't planning on lifting up Jesus as Lord and so it is a system doomed for failure.

Spirit filled men ought to be lifting up Jesus just by the way they live their lives...Matthew 5:16.

 

[iamsoandso]

I'm talking about Spirit filled men. God leading men, regardless of occupation. But it should be true of politicians as well.
I think Christian Nationalism is overblown. A politician has a constituency. They should be his or her primary concern. Since in America that would be Americans, looking out for the needs of Americans first isn't nationalism, but the job requirement. So a Christian politician seeking the best for the Americans they are responsible for isn't "Christian Nationalism". It's the job they were hired to do.
Was God a Jewish Nationalist when He delivered the children of Israel out of Egypt?

Any way though in Texas our politicians don't see the one person one vote idea the same as they used to and so their moving towards ending both the Republicans who don't obey and the Democrats single voting power by having closed primary voting and nullifying the Democratic votes by requiring them to win a majority of the counties instead of counting individual votes so constitutes(voters) mean nothing in Texas ... https://newrepublic.com/article/182204/texas-republicans-platform-one-party-rule In other words one of their candidates can loose an election by millions of votes and still win the election by carrying a majority of the 254 counties...

 

[Cameron143]

Any way though in Texas our politicians don't see the one person one vote idea the same as they used to and so their moving towards ending both the Republicans who don't obey and the Democrats single voting power by having closed primary voting and nullifying the Democratic votes by requiring them to win a majority of the counties instead of counting individual votes so constitutes(voters) mean nothing in Texas ... https://newrepublic.com/article/182204/texas-republicans-platform-one-party-rule In other words one of their candidates can loose an election by millions of votes and still win the election by carrying a majority of the 254 counties...

For some offices this is so...like Seators. But Congress is chosen by district.

 

[iamsoandso]

For some offices this is so...like Seators. But Congress is chosen by district.

Sure see post #7360,,,I was referring to State of Texas officials over the last 3 decades and that corruption does not just magically end just because there's an "R" after their names. It's just not near the land of milk and honey it was presented as,it's actually far worse to have dictators instead of fair elections.

 

[Susanna]

Sure see post #7360,,,I was referring to State of Texas officials over the last 3 decades and that corruption does not just magically end just because there's an "R" after their names. It's just not near the land of milk and honey it was presented as,it's actually far worse to have dictators instead of fair elections.

Dictator wannabes aren’t real Republicans. They’re something else that I don’t think it’s appropriate to describe in words. Where did the GOP and the spirit from Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, “Ike” Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan go?

 

[iamsoandso]

Dictator wannabes aren’t real Republicans. They’re something else that I don’t think it’s appropriate to describe in words. Where did the GOP and the spirit from Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, “Ike” Eisenhower and Ronald Reagan go?

It's as if the new guys decided to just dress up like the GOP and take the old guard apart from the inside. It seems the things we warn the others of they are just going to have to live through themselves for a few decades until it sinks in.

 

[ZNP]

It's as if the new guys decided to just dress up like the GOP and take the old guard apart from the inside. It seems the things we warn the others of they are just going to have to live through themselves for a few decades until it sinks in.

Money is the root of all sorts of evil. As long as you have money in politics you will have all sorts of evil growing in it as well.

 

[Cameron143]

Money is the root of all sorts of evil. As long as you have money in politics you will have all sorts of evil growing in it as well.

The love of money, not money itself.

 

[iamsoandso]

Money is the root of all sorts of evil. As long as you have money in politics you will have all sorts of evil growing in it as well.

Yep men's money like these who are actually who is in charge of Texas(the others are only their puppets if they obey)... (notice in the link in post #7365 that Dunn and Wilks are the men behind organizing the white nat. event in Dallas/FT.Worth)...

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/billionaire-tim-dunn-runs-texas/
https://www.propublica.org/article/texas-tim-dunn-wilks-brothers-vouchers-courtney-gore
https://www.tpr.org/news/2024-02-25...es-are-pushing-texas-to-the-far-righthttps://
www.texastribune.org/2024/03/08/tim-dunn-farris-wilks-defend-texas-liberty-election/
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/24/politics/texas-far-right-politics-invs/index.html

 

[ZNP]

The love of money, not money itself.

Yes, so until sin is irradicated and covetousness with it you will never get rid of the corruption in the human government. You can't vote for sin to be eradicated.

 

[Niki7]

Which God though? You see in Texas it mean's that the two most powerful men who are actually running Texas are pushing Christian Nationalism. That might sound great at a glance until you realize that their idea of a real Christian is "Assembles of Yahweh 7th day"(remember Koresh,,Alex Jones ect.?)

who are they please?

cheese whiz...when folks make declarations unattended by facts, it says nothing

so please say something

 

[Niki7]

Its an Invalide less worth, then an criminal?
What is strange, then in your big country you have such less alternatives to Trump ore Biden. I can understand that you dont like support the democrates with there program.
Is the politic in our country depend from the program of the Party or from the person.
A president should have an idealcharacter.
How you can vote for someone who lyes, cheats and deceive? Only because he is rich or a good speaker?
Finaly I believe that God is giving someone in his position to lead a country.

yeah. tell us about it. Germany just leads the world doesn't it?