Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[Cold]

"Don't it always seem to go
That you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone"

The social contract is being dismantled slowly but surely and you should be concerned.

I think that saying only applies to people who have lived a comfortable life. I grew up always expecting to be homeless if I survived past 18 years of age. Now I'm 36 and living the most comfortable I ever have by renting a room with my cousin lol. A peaceful and secure life has never been on my mind. I always expect things to get worse in life. I mean, there have been 2 or 3 drive-by shootings in the last 2 weeks on my street. Someone got murdered in the apartment complex behind my house the month before last and I heard the shots. All the towns I've lived in have been big drug zones and it's only getting more rampant as time goes by. It doesn't matter who I vote for, those things won't change. Besides, we all know how the world ends. Things will get worse, not better.

 

[ZNP]

Meh. Last time I checked, JFK wasn't in the Bible. Normal people die and are murdered every day. He was just another one. Biblical events I will care about, but not the presidential elections.

Really? Seems like the evil CIA is much like Athaliah and the Kennedy family like the royal family of Ahaziah. 7 years after the assassinations Joash becomes king and 7 years after the Kennedy assassinations Nixon becomes president.

This was when it became obvious in the OT that there was a battle between those worshiping Baal and those worshiping the Lord to rule the nation.

Joash was a conflicted king. Under the tutelage of a man of God he did well, but once that man died he focused on power, was openly rebuked, became cruel and God send his judgment through the hands of the Aramean invaders, much like Nixon being ousted, openly rebuked and judged by God due to the Vietnam war.

I would add the deep state in the Bible is always represented by an evil woman like Delilah, Jezebel or Athaliah. Think about Hoover keeping files filled with blackmail information on key people, that is something similar to what a woman would do, especially a prostitute. Or think about how Jezebel plotted and framed and murdered the guy to get his vineyard. That is what the CIA does.

 

[HeIsHere]

I think that saying only applies to people who have lived a comfortable life. I grew up always expecting to be homeless if I survived past 18 years of age. Now I'm 36 and living the most comfortable I ever have by renting a room with my cousin lol. A peaceful and secure life has never been on my mind. I always expect things to get worse in life. I mean, there have been 2 or 3 drive-by shootings in the last 2 weeks on my street. Someone got murdered in the apartment complex behind my house the month before last and I heard the shots. All the towns I've lived in have been big drug zones and it's only getting more rampant as time goes by. It doesn't matter who I vote for, those things won't change. Besides, we all know how the world ends. Things will get worse, not better.

I am very sorry you have had a challenging life so far, thankfully things are better for you.

I would say the deterioration you are witnessing can be attributed to in part people because people have not been involved in the political process.

Keeping corruption out requires constant vigilance and people have been distracted purposely so, I think.

Btw the world is not ending anytime soon although we are headed for more war.

 

[Cold]

I am very sorry you have had a challenging life so far, thankfully things are better for you.

I would say the deterioration you are witnessing can be attributed to in part people because people have not been involved in the political process.

Keeping corruption out requires constant vigilance and people have been distracted purposely so, I think.

Btw the world is not ending anytime soon although we are headed for more war.

Well, don't get me wrong here, I don't see any issue with attempting to stave off corruption and evil by voting it out. I just don't see it working.

 

[Cameron143]

Ok. So Trump was charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records.
A couple of problems with the charges:
1. The statute of limitations had run out
2. Agreeing to NDA's...Nondisclosure Agreements...are not actually illegal
3. Classifying legal expenses as legal expenses isn't illegal

That's your problem @seed_time_harvest, you disagree with facts. I didn't share my opinion here. Everything stated is true and easily verifiable. This shows your bias, as anyone is free to have their own opinion, but facts aren't negotiable. Something is either true, or it is not.
Everything I shared is true, and verifiable.

 

[ZNP]

I am very sorry you have had a challenging life so far, thankfully things are better for you.

I would say the deterioration you are witnessing can be attributed to in part people because people have not been involved in the political process.

Yes, that is why they push fornication, especially in the public school. They know if you have broken families you will have poverty and people will be so focused on other things they can't pay attention while they rob the people blind and send their kids to die in forever wars. This is Baal worship, they worship money and power and have no qualms about the human sacrifices that must be made for them to get that. You call it corruption, FreeMasons call it the natural order.

Keeping corruption out requires constant vigilance and people have been distracted purposely so, I think.

Absolutely true. Push for fornication, take control of the public schools and turn it into a basket case, have a large group in poverty on welfare, watching day time TV while another large group of the country has to work two jobs to help support those on welfare (husband and wife working). As a result no one has time to raise the kids which have been handed over to them to indoctrinate.

Btw the world is not ending anytime soon although we are headed for more war.

Define "soon"?

 

[ZNP]

Well, don't get me wrong here, I don't see any issue with attempting to stave off corruption and evil by voting it out. I just don't see it working.

Yes, in the Bible the corruption and evil is actually a battle between those worshiping Baal and those worshiping Jehovah. As for the atheists and agnostics they are simply useless.

So unless "voting them out" includes getting rid of idolatry and the pagan worship it is all simply window dressing.

 

[HeIsHere]

That's your problem @seed_time_harvest, you disagree with facts. I didn't share my opinion here. Everything stated is true and easily verifiable. This shows your bias, as anyone is free to have their own opinion, but facts aren't negotiable. Something is either true, or it is not.
Everything I shared is true, and verifiable.

True facts are non negotiable, that is why they are facts.

Amazing that even has to be state and clarified.

 

[mailmandan]

On a different Christian forum site, there are liberals who equate the support of Donald Trump by Christians with a level of blasphemy! One liberal on that site even said, "Trump's MAGA cult would vote for him even if he were a convicted serial killer." Many of these liberals on that site love to judge Christians unfairly as if they have the moral high ground.

 

[ZNP]

On a different Christian forum site, there are liberals who equate the support of Donald Trump by Christians with a level of blasphemy! One liberal on that site even said, "Trump's MAGA cult would vote for him even if he were a convicted serial killer." Many of these liberals on that site love to judge Christians unfairly as if they have the moral high ground.

Sounds like projection from someone who voted for Hillary

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes, that is why they push fornication, especially in the public school. They know if you have broken families you will have poverty and people will be so focused on other things they can't pay attention while they rob the people blind and send their kids to die in forever wars. This is Baal worship, they worship money and power and have no qualms about the human sacrifices that must be made for them to get that. You call it corruption, FreeMasons call it the natural order.



Absolutely true. Push for fornication, take control of the public schools and turn it into a basket case, have a large group in poverty on welfare, watching day time TV while another large group of the country has to work two jobs to help support those on welfare (husband and wife working). As a result no one has time to raise the kids which have been handed over to them to indoctrinate.


Define "soon"?

In the context of how I meant it was soon as in the next year or so ......and I also took "world" as in all living things complete extinction the destruction of the planet, but maybe @Cold did not meant it that way?

 

[Cameron143]

the case was heard and the verdict was pronounced.

Trump is a liar and a felon.

Everyone is a liar. When the case is overturned on appeal, and it will be, will you still insist he is a felon.

 

[Cold]

In the context of how I meant it was soon as in the next year or so ......and I also took "world" as in all living things complete extinction the destruction of the planet, but maybe @Cold did not meant it that way?

Unfortunately for you and everyone else who reads my posts I am an idiot and tend to assume people can also understand what I'm saying. I was referring to how all the nations will get more and more away from God and eventually the whole world will find itself fighting in the battle of Armageddon. Not the literal destruction of the world. In my mind, every nation will fall farther from God, thus voting to make a nation right in the eyes of God is an impossibility. Voting for a just country is also an impossibility. Voting for anything positive is an impossibility lol. That's about all I meant I guess. I'm decently tired so I can barely remember my thoughts from 5 minutes ago.

 

[HeIsHere]

Unfortunately for you and everyone else who reads my posts I am an idiot and tend to assume people can also understand what I'm saying. I was referring to how all the nations will get more and more away from God and eventually the whole world will find itself fighting in the battle of Armageddon. Not the literal destruction of the world. In my mind, every nation will fall farther from God, thus voting to make a nation right in the eyes of God is an impossibility. Voting for a just country is also an impossibility. Voting for anything positive is an impossibility lol. That's about all I meant I guess. I'm decently tired so I can barely remember my thoughts from 5 minutes ago.

That fact that you made a statement that I found benefited from elaboration does not mean anyone thinks you are an idiot.
I do not believe the bible teaches Armageddon is a future event.

 

[ZNP]

In the context of how I meant it was soon as in the next year or so ......and I also took "world" as in all living things complete extinction the destruction of the planet, but maybe @Cold did not meant it that way?

Yes, "destruction of the world" is a very vague and nebulous term.

How about how long before the collapse of the US dollar?

 

[Cold]

That fact that you made a statement that I found benefited from elaboration does not mean anyone thinks you are an idiot.
I do not believe the bible teaches Armageddon is a future event.

Lol dang it man. I'm too tired to talk literally. The book of Revelations and whatnot. The world goes bad, wars and rumors of war, the great deception, the final battle and whatnot. Just think like a second grader and you might understand me lol.

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes, "destruction of the world" is a very vague and nebulous term.

How about how long before the collapse of the US dollar?

You asking me to put on my economics hat on this early in the morning, lol

I did have a interesting conversation about this very thing and BRICS, with my son, whose background is not economics, but he did raise very valid points about how the US dollar will not collapse anytime soon, now I just need to remember his points.....

 

[ZNP]

You asking me to put on my economics hat on this early in the morning, lol

I did have a interesting conversation about this very thing and BRICS, with my son, whose background is not economics, but he did raise very valid points about how the US dollar will not collapse anytime soon, now I just need to remember his points.....

Is he taking into account a black swan event -- similar to 9/11 or Pearl Harbor only much, much bigger?

 

[HeIsHere]

Is he taking into account a black swan event -- similar to 9/11 or Pearl Harbor only much, much bigger?

Very good point indeed!
No we did not discuss that, that is a definite possibility and I think he would agree that could definitely happen.
He recommended that book to me, still working on it.

 

[cv5]

Different thead.....BUT. Applies to this thread as well. Obviously.
You listening @posthuman buddy?
Cuz you are the mark in this Trump con game, COVID con game. And many many others as well. Take your pick.

"Yup. That is EXACTLY what I think is going down here....
We are the mark, and have been for a very long time."

Denis Rancourt

@denisrancourt

IT'S A MANIPULATION The entire "Fauci grilling" is a classic psychological manipulation known as "cooling the mark out" Fauci is not going to jail, and he does not have to return any of the money We are the mark, and they are "cooling the mark out"

GOFFMAN E. On cooling the mark out; some aspects of adaptation to failure. Psychiatry. 1952 Nov;15(4):451-63. doi: 10.1080/00332747.1952.11022896. PMID: 13014214. https://web.archive.org/web/20141009065733/http://www.tau.ac.il/~algazi/mat/Goffman--Cooling.htm…
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Jun 3
BREAKING - MUST WATCH: This was perhaps the most EXPLOSIVE exchange today between Dr. Anthony Fauci and Congressman Rich McCormick (@RepMcCormick), a medical doctor who treated patients during COVID but was censored for pointing out the science.