Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"
- Thread starter Calmador
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
The only way to be Holy Spirit filled in those days was for a High Priest to pour oil over you and Bless you. And we see God only had that done to the Leaders. Normal Jews did not have that done. Why are you arguing? YOU literally know NOTHING about us JEWS but that some of us denied Jesus!
-
1
- Show all
As a touchstone, there is no reason to believe that the saved Gibeonites (book of Joshua) were all filled with the Spirit.
But.....they DID undoubtedly believe in the God of Israel. And the POSITIVE ACTIONS they urgently took were both proof of their faith and the reason for God's grace upon them.
But.....they DID undoubtedly believe in the God of Israel. And the POSITIVE ACTIONS they urgently took were both proof of their faith and the reason for God's grace upon them.
-
2
- Show all
Who are "His children"??? Gosh. Only those who believe. You have put the cart before the horse.
Scripture also explicitly states -in the words of Jesus no less- that nobody can come unless the Father enables them.
Of course you exclude yourself from that. You needed no help... so righteous
all on your own despite the clear teaching of Scripture to the contrary.
Scripture also explicitly states -in the words of Jesus no less- that nobody can come unless the Father enables them.
Of course you exclude yourself from that. You needed no help... so righteous
all on your own despite the clear teaching of Scripture to the contrary.
The context of 7th chapter of Acts, in general, provides examples of unbeliever's jealousy of believers. Jealousy is different from envy, nuanced from it in that it begrudges what the holder believes is rightfully his, as opposed to envy which desires to have what the other possesses....
I started this reply I don't know how many days ago, so I don't remember the point I was working toward...
but I'm sure it was relevant and might've even been helpful, somehow, so I decided to finish the post rather than just simply deleting it for having so far behind.
In Stephen's case, he looked up and claimed that He saw God... which enraged them, and they drug him out and hurled stones at him. And Stephen fell asleep, and I daresay he fell asleep like he was being tucked into a comfy bed.
So, what were these so jealous, or envious, of even though Stephen just presented them with the message that, if heard, would grant them with exactly what he possessed also? However, that Stephen, just prior to having said that He saw Jesus standing, he had just told them that they had failed to keep the law (and in their mind, this translated to "you failed to keep the law, but I have not...since I can see God and you cannot) provides some insight that they were stirred up with envy.... or perhaps both envy and jealousy, in believing Stephen 'taking' from them the righteousness they'd works so hard to project (although the effort was toward their friends' regard rather than God's).
And so, they just weren't having it because, up to that point, their peers had thought so much of them.
Yes, I'm leaning toward envy stopping up one ear and jealousy stopping up the other.
I started this reply I don't know how many days ago, so I don't remember the point I was working toward...
but I'm sure it was relevant and might've even been helpful, somehow, so I decided to finish the post rather than just simply deleting it for having so far behind. In Stephen's case, he looked up and claimed that He saw God... which enraged them, and they drug him out and hurled stones at him. And Stephen fell asleep, and I daresay he fell asleep like he was being tucked into a comfy bed.
So, what were these so jealous, or envious, of even though Stephen just presented them with the message that, if heard, would grant them with exactly what he possessed also? However, that Stephen, just prior to having said that He saw Jesus standing, he had just told them that they had failed to keep the law (and in their mind, this translated to "you failed to keep the law, but I have not...since I can see God and you cannot) provides some insight that they were stirred up with envy.... or perhaps both envy and jealousy, in believing Stephen 'taking' from them the righteousness they'd works so hard to project (although the effort was toward their friends' regard rather than God's).
And so, they just weren't having it because, up to that point, their peers had thought so much of them.
Yes, I'm leaning toward envy stopping up one ear and jealousy stopping up the other.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
Amen Brother
-
1
- Show all
I was not addressing your personal beliefs per se, but just the general reformed doctrine, just adding my understanding and thoughts, gee whiz, everything is not personal to the person who posted it each and every time.
It is possible to just be speaking to the narrative even if one replies to one person.
"When God converts a heart, that heart runs to God, and freely seeks after God."
So is God converting the heart first?
If this is the order tell me does He get permission before He converts the heart.
2 Corinthians 3:13-15~ We are not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face to keep the Israelites from gazing at the end of what was fading away. But their minds were closed. For to this day the same veil remains at the reading of the old covenant. It has not been lifted, because only in Christ can it be removed. And even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts. But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
-
1
- Show all
Wow.
It has nothing to do with free will, it is the character of God that is misrepresented completely.
I stick with my first blush, because no where does Jesus state "I will bequeath some of you with metanoia"
This idea has to be stitched and sewn, like a poorly made, ill fitting garment, over top of the text.
It has nothing to do with free will, it is the character of God that is misrepresented completely.
I stick with my first blush, because no where does Jesus state "I will bequeath some of you with metanoia"
This idea has to be stitched and sewn, like a poorly made, ill fitting garment, over top of the text.
-
1
- Show all