Mike Winger's "Why I think Calvinism is Unbiblical"

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FollowerofShiloh said:
Everyone first hears with an uncircumcised heart. Every example shows they were uncircumcised when they first heard.

Acts 2:38 they were making fun of those in Upper Room. Uncircumcised heart but 3,000 were saved.
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Not true. In verse 37 their hearts were pricked. I believe 37 still comes before 38.
 
Cameron143 said:
Not true. In verse 37 their hearts were pricked. I believe 37 still comes before 38.
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I said when they were making fun of them at first which took place in verse 13 But others mocking said, “They are filled with new wine.”
That is 24 verses before your verse 37.
They were uncircumcised in verse 13 before being pricked in verse 37.
 
FollowerofShiloh said:
A Jew is born into a family that is already in a system called the Law. So they were natural natural natural men. But as natural men they still obeyed the Law and with their minds chose God. We have a history of them choosing God and rejecting God because they were NATURAL MEN.

God gave us 3,000 years of examples so how you are paining natural men goes against what God claims.

How many times were the Jews slaves after Egypt?
How many times did God punish the Jews after the Wilderness.
We have examples of natural men.


So you are showing an unrealistic view of natural man.
And you're doing it to be deceitful to protect your doctrine.
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Do the Pharisees count? How about all those who shouted to crucify him? At most times in OT history, the Israeli people were opposed to God. Sometimes as few as 6,000 still worshipped the true God. Those who did were always the promised seed and belonged to Christ.
 
FollowerofShiloh said:
I said when they were making fun of them at first which took place in verse 13 But others mocking said, “They are filled with new wine.”
That is 24 verses before your verse 37.
They were uncircumcised in verse 13 before being pricked in verse 37.
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Sure. They opposed God.
 
Cameron143 said:
Do the Pharisees count? How about all those who shouted to crucify him? At most times in OT history, the Israeli people were opposed to God. Sometimes as few as 6,000 still worshipped the true God. Those who did were always the promised seed and belonged to Christ.
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The same people who called Jesus Messiah were the same who yelled crucify Him.

So they were able to choose both ways at their own free will.
 
FollowerofShiloh said:
The Bible shows 3,000 years of unnatural men who followed the Law.
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Regarding the law: Acts 15:10 Now then, why do you test God by placing on the necks
of the disciples a yoke that neither we nor our fathers have been able to bear?

How could there be none righteous (no not one!) if people followed the law?
 
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FollowerofShiloh said:
Jesus had disciples who followed Him for months and one day got up and left because they did not understand His teaching.

So you can know the truth and still reject it.
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I agree. The response is always predicated on the condition of one's heart.
 
Cameron143 said:
I have no idea. But it won't be anytime soon.
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No idea of when you say? In these latter days? NOT watching are you? Very very foolish indeed.
Not only foolish, an outright failure to heed God's command.

Mat 24:48
“But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,
Mat 24:50
“the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,


Mar 13:35
“Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming—in the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or in the morning—

Mat 25:13
“Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

1Th 5:2
For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3
For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.
1Th 5:6
Therefore let us not sleep, as others do, but let us watch and be sober.

Rev 3:3
“Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.

Rev 22:7
“Behold, I am coming quickly! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”
Rev 22:12
“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.
Rev 22:20
He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming quickly.” Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!
 
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From Acts 15:20 plus 28
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FollowerofShiloh said:
I only showed God allowed people to hear and they still rejected.

Unlike you who claims that is impossible by using natural men.
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Natural man can use all the same faculties he possessed before the fall. But he can't use them in the same ways. Hence, the need to have them redeemed.
 
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