Fellowship With Transgenders

[Webers.Home]

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Eve was the first to taste the forbidden fruit, and when she did; nothing
happened. She went right on unashamed in the buff the same as before, viz:
it wasn't till Adam tasted the fruit that Eve became sensitive about her
body's appearance naked.

Now the thing is: Eve was constructed with material taken from Adam's
body, but she was already fully formed and fully sentient prior to his tasting
the fruit so it was too late for Adam's eating to effect Eve by means of
heredity.

So: if Eve's feelings about her naked body weren't altered by means of the
chemistry of the fruit, and if they weren't altered by means of heredity; then
by what?

Mr. Serpent is the logical source (a.k.a. the Devil & Satan, Rev 20:2) He has
the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human
body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16,
Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment
that Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it
takes effect. Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both
immediately set to work cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to
cover their pelvic areas.

FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people . . . in the womb or out
of the womb?

REPLY: Adam and his wife demonstrate the Serpent's ability to work on
adults, but I'm guessing he gets to most everyone else in the womb. (Ps
51:5 & Ps 58:3)

FAQ: So you think this Devil of yours has something to do with the current
wave of gender dysphoria?

REPLY: Duh!
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[blueluna5]

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FAQ: Should Christians shun transgenders?

REPLY: Absolutely not!

Transgendering isn't specifically addressed in the Bible, viz: it's a gray area,
and as such ought to be approached in accord with the 14th chapter of
Romans which says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage
Christian transgenders with debating nor abuse them with judgmental
criticism.

Transgendering is a rough road to travel due to embarrassing therapy
regimens; and side effects, complications, negative public opinion, doubts,
regrets, disappointment, and mood swings that many would rather not talk
about. So be especially careful with your dialogue so as not to push them to
the point where you'll be forcing them to maintain their poise with fibs.

A little empathy, and a whole lot of tact and courtesy, can be very useful in
helping someone get thru the day, ergo: don't become a hell for
transgenders, instead, become a haven because people really ought to feel
safe with Christians instead of wary.

● Matt 7:12 . . So in everything: do to others what you would have them do
to you.
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It's not about shunning anyone. It's a matter of truth and just not having something in common.

I've know people who are transgender. I feel bad for them bc neither had a good upbringing. One use to be a friend. The thing is I'm just not interested in talking about someone's latest boob enhancement. I wouldn't want to talk to a woman about this either. 😕 So he was mad at me bc I didn't address these new....amenities. He never told me "hey I'm a girl now, these are my pronouns, etc." It's just he didn't get the attention he was looking for with me.

The same thing with people who are transgender. I mean I see boobs, a foot long blue nails, purple hair, drag makeup, a foot tall high heels... and a clear male potbelly. It's just not fooling anyone and seems like 1. They want attention or 2. They are a man thinking this is how women think. In other words I'm a woman and I don't dress or act like that. I also never had an issue getting a date.

I think it's a very lonely way of life. I've never seen 2 transgenders together except on TV. Just the statistics to it would be so low bc many are not gay. So these men with boobs want to date women and women don't want a man with boobs generally... unless they're bi. I'm just being real.

I mean I would keep the door open if they held similar values as far as friendship. And some do.

Don't hate the truth though. God says this about being transgender and it's pretty blunt. Although it doesn't include mutilating your body.

“A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God." Deuteronomy 22:5

This one on mutilating.
Leviticus 19:28 says, “You shall not make cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.”

So 2 verses right there indicating God does not approve of it.... that's the truth. People don't want to hear the truth.

Nowadays the lgbtq+ movement is trying to include pedophilia.... when a society is openly targeting its children, the society is doomed to collapse.

 

[timemeddler]

yeah, as for shunning there's a difference between shunning the transgender group as a whole, and shunning the individuals on a case by case basis.

 

[JohnDB]

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1789721224316174635

 

[Webers.Home]

FAQ: The entire gender dysphoria mechanism? --educators, students,
psychiatric counselors, medical professionals, parents, and various
government agencies at State and Federal levels, etc --are caught up in
some sort of paranormal master plan?

REPLY: Yes.

* Ironically the progressive element in our midst is called "woke" when in
reality it is actually under the influence of a very powerful kind of hypnosis
about which we thus far know very little; and you hot-shot pulpit pounders
out there need to be very careful how you behave yourselves in talks with
these folks.

"The Lord's servants must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone. They
must be able to teach effectively, and be patient with difficult people. They
should gently teach those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change
those people's hearts, and they will believe the truth. Then they will come to
their senses and escape from the Devil's trap. For they have been held
captive by him to do whatever he wants." (2Tim 2:23-26)
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[JohnDB]

Sorry but I aint hugging him either...

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Hotel Herbie was the only crossdresser we knew of in the community as a kid.
Now the adults can ask yourselves, would you want your children hanging out with Hotel Herbie, OR would you use him as an object lesson as to the sad depravity a person can sink to when they reject the Lord and His ways?

It goes without saying that any believer should witness Jesus Christ to the lost world.
However which churches flying a rainbow flag even have the right gospel? Is there such a thing?

 

[Magenta]

"The Lord's servants must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone. They
must be able to teach effectively, and be patient with difficult people. They
should gently teach those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change
those people's hearts, and they will believe the truth. Then they will come to
their senses and escape from the Devil's trap. For they have been held
captive by him to do whatever he wants." (2Tim 2:23-26)

From 2 Timothy 2

 

[JohnDB]

Hotel Herbie was the only crossdresser we knew of in the community as a kid.
Now the adults can ask yourselves, would you want your children hanging out with Hotel Herbie, OR would you use him as an object lesson as to the sad depravity a person can sink to when they reject the Lord and His ways?

It goes without saying that any believer should witness Jesus Christ to the lost world.
However which churches flying a rainbow flag even have the right gospel? Is there such a thing?

These folks don't have ANY fear of God.
The rain-bow is a weapon of war...as in bow and arrow that we think of in the Hunger Games movie...except it's pretty because it's God's. But God hung it up because He was done with it. God does have a full arsenal at His disposal.

Now these deliberate sinners have taken symbol of this bow and are literally mocking God with it as if God can't do anything about their perversion. Which is the dumbest thing in the history of mankind to do.

God is kind and, if you repent, very forgiving....but God is also Holy, Holy, Holy and just. There's going to come a day for these people...and it's not going to be pleasant.
I would rather be hated by the whole world than have God angry with me for mocking Him. Just saying.

 

[Nehemiah6]

...approached in accord with the 14th chapter of Romans which says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage Christian transgenders with debating nor abuse them with judgmental
criticism.

Romans 14 says no such thing. So how should a Christian relate to any sexual pervert, or any sinner in fact?

1. We are to encourage them to hear the Word of God and do what it says. Invite them to a sound Bible church, or listen to sound Bible preaching on the radio or TV.

2. God commands all sinners -- including sexual perverts -- to repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. so they must be shown what the Word of God has to say.

3. Repentance means a total turning away from past sins and evil deeds. Sexual perversion is clearly a sin, so there are no exceptions for LGBTQ.

4. They need to hear the Gospel and obey the Gospel. Unless they do so there can be no "fellowship".

Transgenderism a a demonic movement to stop normal human beings from being normal. It is also a blatant attack on Christianity. the fact that it has become a movement where these people are committed to violence and murder shows how evil it is.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[timemeddler]

A bit of practical advise, If you see a smartly dressed guy wearing a corset whom you don't know from atom, don't walk up to him and start a along the lines of "You are a handsome man and God made you that way...". because you think he's trans. It might not go over at all how you think, and you'll just look foolish.

Yes this did actually happen.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Report on Transgender Acceptance
By John Bown

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The progressive trans cancel culture is gradually eliminating the biologically natural female sex. 2022 is becoming the year when transgenders fully inserted themselves into the status quo to achieve the Saul Alinsky judo move on equality. Aside from us now having to accept any naturally born female that comes in second or possibly third place as the actual winner in women's sports. USA Today awarded transgender Assistant HHS Secretary Dr. Rachel Levine woman of the year. Regardless of the fact that Levine didn't even deserve it after evacuating Levine's Mother from a nursing home facility while supporting the decision to allow covid positive patients to return to elder home facilities. A decision that caused a massive outbreak and deaths.
To normalize the path to female domination. Last year Miss Nevada became the first transgender to compete for the Miss USA pageant. While Jeopardy welcomed its first trans contestant into the tournament of champions.
Also paving the way were the Marxist radicals behind the BLM movement openly calling for the end to the family. The family being the root of our young Republic. A movement supported by a corporotocracy infiltrated by Marxist slogans and symbolism. The Marxists are daily using the techniques of Saul Alinsky to press ever forward to obliterate the American Dream. In particular utilizing Alinsky's major tactics to maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition by using the constructive alternative of transgenderism as the price for a successful attack. This isn't about equality anymore. When the corporations have auctioned off the natural rights and achievements of women in order to support the agenda of the Marxist political establishment. We are clearly at war from within with a foreign enemy."

 

[timemeddler]

Another thing, why is it we only hear about men turning into women in the news? statistically women becoming men are just as common. But as for the later no one says anything. Women have been pushing into mens territory for some time, from pants to suits to occupations and no one says anything, which I don't necessarily have a problem with, but now are literally trying to medically change their bodies. I see nothing in the bible to excuse women, but yet the focus is primarily on men. Sign of how far corrupt our culture is?

 

[Webers.Home]

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A full transgender process typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross-sex
hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery. Unfortunately the
results of a full process aren't always satisfactory, rather, quite disappointing
as patients sometimes find themselves saddled with inconvenient side
effects and unpleasant complications.

To top it off: thus far the process has been unable to replicate real men and
women. No; at best the process has managed to produce only artificial men
and women that don't function near as well as patients were led to expect.

But that's not all-- there's also the afterlife to consider, which has the
potential to make transgendering a futile expenditure of one's resolve.

● John 3:1-2 . . Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a
member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said:
"Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one
could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

Pharisees in that day were very pious men-- typically educated, and highly
respected. To my knowledge, this man was neither gay nor afflicted with
gender dysphoria. So considering his qualities; Jesus' response is very
curious.

● John 3:3 . . In reply Jesus declared: "I tell you the truth, no one can see
the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

The Greek word translated "again" basically means from above. In other
words, Jesus wasn't speaking of a ritual or a sacred rite; no, he was
speaking of an act of God.

The thing to note is that this particular act of God isn't optional, rather, it's
required, i.e. there are no exceptions and no exemptions to this rule
regardless of one's moral perfections and/or imperfections, and regardless of
age, race, religion, social/financial/political status, and/or gender identity.

● John 3:7 . . You must be born again.

We're all equals in that respect, therefore:

● Rom 15:5-7 . . May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give
you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that
with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord
Jesus Christ. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order
to bring praise to God.
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[HealthAndHappiness]

Another thing, why is it we only hear about men turning into women in the news? statistically women becoming men are just as common. But as for the later no one says anything. Women have been pushing into mens territory for some time, from pants to suits to occupations and no one says anything, which I don't necessarily have a problem with, but now are literally trying to medically change their bodies. I see nothing in the bible to excuse women, but yet the focus is primarily on men. Sign of how far corrupt our culture is?

Biological Males
have one advantage and that's in women's sports...

😆

 

[Webers.Home]

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Thus far my comments have been relative to folks who've undergone a full
transgender process; which typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross
sex hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery.

I am very tolerant of those people, whereas I am greatly discontented with
guys competing in women's sports whose bodies fail to display even the
slightest hint of femininity, i.e. they are not taking cross-sex hormones, nor
have they undergone any of the appropriate surgeries.

In my judicious estimation: guys insisting they are women while still in
possession of their full and complete natural manhood, are frauds and
shameless cheats right down there in the dirt with the lowest of wolves in
sheep's clothing we might name.

I would recommend not only shunning a Christian man who competes in
women's sports solely on the basis of his "identifying" as a woman, but to
avoid all association with that guy-- both in church and out of church --lest
his churlish scruples rub off on us.

● 1Cor 15:33 . . Do not be misled: Bad company corrupts good character.
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[HealthAndHappiness]

Don't be a Bigot!. 😄

 

[PennEd]

There should be no ambiguity on this issue from the Christian perspective.

Transgenders are mentally ill, and or demonically influenced.
It should go without saying that they, as well as ALL people should be loved and have compassion on.

But in NO WAY, shape or form should their mental illness/demon oppression EVER be accepted.

 

[NEWTOCHRISTIANITY]

There should be no ambiguity on this issue from the Christian perspective.

Transgenders are mentally ill, and or demonically influenced.
It should go without saying that they, as well as ALL people should be loved and have compassion on.

But in NO WAY, shape or form should their mental illness/demon oppression EVER be accepted.

But, as Christians, shouldn't we still treat them with kindness?