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Pilgrimshope

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You can presume, you can only know yourself if you have Jesus in you, you cant presume others are especially if they are doing things that disagree with Jesus words promising salvation....that's silly

Worry about yourself, Paul wrote so that you may know you have eternal life, and that proof is that you have received Jesus, If you are not sure if you have Jesus in you I'd say that is a big worry, it really is something you can know as how would you not if he was in you.

Anyone who is a sinner that does not have Christ Needs to be saved and receive Christ or they will die and go to hell

My children, with whom I travail again in birth until Christ is formed in you

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

Galations 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

There is no condemnation for those in Christ

Jesus said you must be born again, he meant it, you become a new creation in Christ and in Christ there is no sin, if you have your sin Jesus doesn't have it, and God won't join himself with sinners. so you need to figure that out
I can presume to know the people I know and have known for years and hear them say it ? Or is that just perceiving what’s being said ?
 

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I can presume to know the people I know and have known for years and hear them say it ? Or is that just perceiving what’s being said ?
It is nothing to do with your salvation, Do you have Jesus living in you?
 

Pilgrimshope

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Maybe you have a short memory, lets refresh then, do you have sin?
What business is it of yours ?

It seems to like this upsets you

“Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.

And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

which group do you belong to ? The ones listening tonjesus who came to save sinners and call them to repentance ? Or the group complaining because “they’re “ all sinners and he’s hanging out with them ?

Does this upset you ?

“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil. Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.


And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:35-38, 46-49‬ ‭KJV‬‬

What I’m saying is if a person can’t forst aconolwefge thoer sins they probably are trying to look at all those dirty sinners around elsewhere and never got around to looking in tbe mirror

look at Jesus doctrine not the law of Moses one makes you judgemental and want to stone sinners to keep the camp “holy “ the other is when Jesus came and lives sinners enough to die for them and teach them e way home to God

I am a Christian flaws but you knowing this doesn’t affect me in any way I have to do this like you do

“But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You should start looking for your own sins in the light of the ofnthe fispel so you can do this

“but if we walk in the light,( his word ) as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. ( hard to do this when your “ sinless “)

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

some folks won’t do that especially throwe of the self righteous crows who think themselves the judge of all the “sinners” that come to Jesus to be saved
 

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No It is a simple question, If you can't even answer a simple question what's the point in even talking.
It’s none of your business is my answer you should t worry about me you should worry about you
 

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What are you talking about ?
You said

I can presume to know the people I know and have known for years and hear them say it ? Or is that just perceiving what’s being said ?
I said "it is nothing to do with your salvation, Do you have Jesus living in you?"

Meaning, what they say has nothing to do with your salvation, so I asked you if you have Jesus living in you?
 

Pilgrimshope

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No It is a simple question, If you can't even answer a simple question what's the point in even talking.
I don’t see a point at this point you haven’t heard anything i said to begin with and now are asking out about sin . What are you talking about what do you think I said lol ?
 

Pilgrimshope

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You said



I said "it is nothing to do with your salvation, Do you have Jesus living in you?"

Meaning, what they say has nothing to do with your salvation, so I asked you if you have Jesus living in you?
Yeah I had responded to your prior message go back to that one . You told me I couldn’t possibly know someone else . Because i said I know people who say they are filled with the spirit and reject and also reject his word. That’s just an observation man from
People I’ve known on my life and talked to
 

Pilgrimshope

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What about my other question, Do you have Jesus living inside you?
You mean have I been baptized for remission of sins ? Have I heard the gospel and do I believe ? Received the holy spirit of Jesus Chist ? Yeah that’s why I take his word for what it is the words of god
 

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Yeah I have no interest in positional righteousness
So no interest in the Blood atonement? imputed righteousness? that seats us in heavenly places right now, The righteousness of God in christ is a position you need to be before you die or it will be too late
 

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You mean have I been baptized for remission of sins ? Have I heard the gospel and do I believe ? Received the holt spirit of Jesus Ch fort ? Yeah that’s why I take his word for what it is the words of god
No that's not what i mean, it was a very simple question, so i can take that as a no?
 

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So no interest in the Blood atonement? imputed righteousness? that seats us in heavenly places right now, The righteousness of God in christ is a position you need to be before you die or it will be too late
You mean Jesus death and resurrection found in the gospel that atones for man’s sins ? Why wouldn’t I have interest in the gospel ?

Im saying im not interested in wrasing his words because he died for me that’s the reason I believe him . Because he said he would die for the people and rose up three days later he proved his words can be trusted

im not interested in the Joseph prince doctrine of positional righteousness no offense it’s just not for me
 

Pilgrimshope

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No that's not what i mean, it was a very simple question, so i can take that as a no?
You aren’t talking about receiving the holy spirit living in a believer when you say “ Christ lives in you “ ? Is it his physical body living in us or ?
 

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You mean Jesus death and resurrection found in the gospel that stones for man’s sins ? Why wouldn’t I have interest in the gospel ?

Im saying im not interested in wrasing his words because he died for me that’s the reason I believe him . Because he said he would die for the people and rose up three days later he proved his words can be trusted

im not interested in the Joseph prince doctrine of positional righteousness no offense it’s just not for me
Joseph prince? That is strange I've never heard him. ALl i did was quote bible sentences, from the start that has been your problem, you seam stuck on sin, that's the main purpose you keep bringing things back to, I'm showing you how to deal with your sin
 

Pilgrimshope

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Joseph prince? That is strange I've never heard him. ALl i did was quote bible sentences, from the start that has been your problem, you seam stuck on sin, that's the main purpose you keep bringing things back to, I'm showing you how to deal with your sin
Oh I see alright we’ll thanks for trying