The hatred of Jews

[Yahshua]

“We bless every drop of blood that has been spilled for Jerusalem, which is clean and pure blood, blood spilled for
Allah, Allah willing. Every martyr (Shahid) will reach Paradise, and everyone wounded will be rewarded by Allah.“
Palestinian Authority president, Mahmoud Abbas, on PA-TV in 2015

“The Islamic Resistance Movement: Islam is its way. It is from Islam that it derives its ideas, concepts,
and perceptions concerning the universe, life, and man, and it refers to Islam's judgment in all its actions.
It is from Islam that it seeks direction so as to guide its steps.“
The covenant of Hamas, a terrorist organization that enjoys widespread popularity
in the Islamic world despite brutal massacres of Israeli men, women and children.

"It was a calculated act, performed with conviction and faith in Allah... I dedicated myself to Jihad
for the sake of Allah and Allah granted me success. Do you know how many casualties there were?
That was made possible by Allah."
Ahlam Tamimi, one of the bombers who slaughtered fifteen innocents, including six children at a Sbarro's pizza parlor.

"When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror
into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off the fingertip of them"
Literature from the Jama'at al-Tawhid wa'l-Jihad Salafi group in Gaza quoting from the Quran to justify sending rockets haphazardly into Israeli population centers.

"I am proud and honored to be a terrorist for the sake of Allah... This is Islamic religious law.
I don't invent anything. I follow Islamic religious law in this."
Umm Nidal, a woman who sent her six sons on suicide missions against Jewish civilians

We are in need of strong and powerful heroes in order to implement the words of Allah: [The companions] 'are tough against the infidels and merciful among themselves.' We … motivate the students, to wage jihad, for the sake of Allah, and we instill love for Allah and His Prophet in the souls of our sons
Hamas spokesman at a 'summer camp' for kids. The Quran verse referenced is 48:29

"Our campaign against the Jews is a purely ideological Islamic campaign.
Islamic State magazine A-Naba' shortly after a March, 2022 murder spree

"My labeling is Islam only. Do not include me in any faction, organization or party because I am Muslim and that is enough for me."
Suicide note from Kamal Mahmoud Abu Bakr, a Palestinian terrorist source

I'm willing to call a murderer a murderer, no matter if they are palestinian or Israeli. And you may be surprised at how similar both the text of Islam and the text of Talmudism(judaism) are in their language. It is the codification of the teachings of the Pharisees who created man-made traditions that nullified the laws of the Almighty, which is why Christ condemned their teachings. Their teachings passed right on down to these zionists. You will know them by the fruits they bear.

It's easy to find Christians who condemn those faithful to islam...but it's a tall order to ask for equal condemnation of Israelis who are faithfully acting within the tenants of the Talmud that sanctions deception and murder of "goyim".

Meanwhile, there were hundreds and hundreds of innocent palestinians who weren't terrorists but who were in fact Christians, treated no differently than every other palestinian; killed indiscriminately.

 

[Magenta]

you may be surprised at how similar both the text of Islam and the text of Talmudism(judaism) are in their language.

Does the Talmud have over 100 verses telling them to murder those who refuse to submit to them?

 

[Yahshua]

Let's go over your accusations above

Maybe we should start by going over the meaning of the word accusation.

Clearly you feel accused. Do you feel accused Maxwel?

a) I looked over your video and article carefully, discovered they were nonsense, lacking any evidence, and then explained my view very carefully.
b.) Rather than rebut me, you have gone on a long tirade explaining how unhappy you feel.
c.) Your unhappiness is not a rebuttal, it's just complaining... complaining and being unhappy isn't a debate.

You're projecting here. No i dont have to debate you because this isn't a debate. Where's the moderator? What are the rules? Ridiculous. Maybe you felt accused by my original post or maybe you feel twice triggered that I told you to do your own homework...again.

Do you feel accused again, Maxwel? Let me know and I'll try to rephrase.

 

[Yahshua]

Does the Talmud have over 100 verses telling them to murder those who refuse to submit to them?

If both books follow the same theme, and if both books are not god-breathed scripture, does it matter which one has more verses sanctioning murder than the other? Would we say, "well this book isn't AS evil because it only says kill goyim 20 times vs this other book that says kill unbelievers 100 times"?

 

[Cameron143]

Killing for the cause of Islam has been going on since the inception of Islam. It is mandated.

This is part of the list of killings in the name of Islam maintained by TheReligionofPeace.com.
Most of these incidents are terror attacks. A handful are honor killings or Sharia executions.

During the last 30 days, there were 123 Islamic attacks in 24 countries, in which 433 people were killed and 204 injured.

This goes on day after day, month after month, year after year. The list is kept updated =>

List of Islamic Terror Attacks (thereligionofpeace.com)

All good stuff, but it was really a rhetorical question. What happened on October 7th was atrocious. The equivalency in America would be around 40,000 killed and 8,000 taken hostage. What do you imagine the American response would have been? I didn't hear anyone telling the US to use a measured response.

 

[HeIsHere]

I'm willing to call a murderer a murderer, no matter if they are palestinian or Israeli. And you may be surprised at how similar both the text of Islam and the text of Talmudism(judaism) are in their language. It is the codification of the teachings of the Pharisees who created man-made traditions that nullified the laws of the Almighty, which is why Christ condemned their teachings. Their teachings passed right on down to these zionists. You will know them by the fruits they bear.

It's easy to find Christians who condemn those faithful to islam...but it's a tall order to ask for equal condemnation of Israelis who are faithfully acting within the tenants of the Talmud that sanctions deception and murder of "goyim".

Meanwhile, there were hundreds and hundreds of innocent palestinians who weren't terrorists but who were in fact Christians, treated no differently than every other palestinian; killed indiscriminately.

I agree with you, the Zohar has clear statements which support your point, even so this conflict is not a religious conflict.

Of course as @Slimsumo pointed out somewhere if I recall correctly the Christians in Palestine are idolaters. sigh

And yet Hamas was treated like an asset by the Netanyoo government, I wonder why?

 

[HeIsHere]

All good stuff, but it was really a rhetorical question. What happened on October 7th was atrocious. The equivalency in America would be around 40,000 killed and 8,000 taken hostage. What do you imagine the American response would have been? I didn't hear anyone telling the US to use a measured response.

History has shown the government of the USA, or whoever controls that country, does not need any provocation to respond, let alone a measured response.

Iraq War comes to mind.

Technically cannot really be classified as a "response" more like an unjustified invasion.
Can countries commit acts of terror.

 

[LenMcM]

Numbers 24: 8,9.

8 " God brings him out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox; He shall consume the nations, his enemies; He shall break their bones And pierce them with his arrows.
9 ' He bows down, he lies down as a lion; And as a lion, who shall rouse him?' " Blessed is he who blesses you, And cursed is he who curses you." (Israel).

 

[HeIsHere]

Yes I was focused on a particular line from our original exchange.,PennEd said this...

Further to his contention this did not start on October 7th.
There where mass atrocities in 1948 when about 15,000 Palestinians were killed, raped etc., etc.,

 

[LenMcM]

Numbers 24: 8,9.
8 " God brings him out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox; He shall consume the nations, his enemies; He shall break their bones And pierce them with his arrows.
9 ' He bows down, he lies down as a lion; And as a lion, who shall rouse him?' " Blessed is he who blesses you, And cursed is he who curses you."--
Zechariah 2
8 For thus says the LORD of hosts: "He sent Me after glory, to the nations which plunder you; for he who touches you (Israel) touches the apple of His eye.

 

[Cameron143]

History has shown the government of the USA, or whoever controls that country, does not need any provocation to respond, let alone a measured response.

Iraq War comes to mind.

Technically cannot really be classified as a "response" more like an unjustified invasion.
Can countries commit acts of terror.

What happened in Iraq was revenge. It could have turned out to be a great geopolitical coup had it been handled properly. But as usual, your bias kept you from seeing the point.

 

[Cameron143]

Numbers 24: 8,9.

8 " God brings him out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox; He shall consume the nations, his enemies; He shall break their bones And pierce them with his arrows.
9 ' He bows down, he lies down as a lion; And as a lion, who shall rouse him?' " Blessed is he who blesses you, And cursed is he who curses you." (Israel).

Didn't Jesus come out of Egypt? Isn't He referred to as the lion of the tribe of Judah?

 

[HeIsHere]

What happened in Iraq was revenge. It could have turned out to be a great geopolitical coup had it been handled properly. But as usual, your bias kept you from seeing the point.

"great geopolitical coup"

my bias, lol

It was never going to be great anything because it was one big lie from start to finish.

The USA has a lot to answer for, but they never will, they maintain an irrational endeavor to export liberal democracy, they should have stayed a Republic but decided they had to become an Empire, I am saddened to watch this once great nation self destruct and sad that that it could have been turned around if only the electorate/leaders had taken a stand against "empire building' when it had the opportunity.

It would be nice if you went to live in Tuscany, say for a year, you would escape your American bubble and see the bigger picture.
I have hope for you.

 

[Magenta]

If both books follow the same theme, and if both books are not god-breathed scripture, does it matter which one has more verses sanctioning murder than the other? Would we say, "well this book isn't AS evil because it only says kill goyim 20 times vs this other book that says kill unbelievers 100 times"?

Why introduce something into the conversation if you are going to dismiss it as inconsequential when asked about it?

 

[Cameron143]

"great geopolitical coup"

my bias, lol

It was never going to be great anything because it was one big lie from start to finish.

The USA has a lot to answer for, but they never will, they maintain an irrational endeavor to export liberal democracy, they should have stayed a Republic but decided they had to become an Empire, I am saddened to watch this once great nation self destruct and sad that that it could have been turned around if only the electorate/leaders had taken a stand against "empire building' when it had the opportunity.

It would be nice if you went to live in Tuscany, say for a year, you would escape your American bubble and see the bigger picture.
I have hope for you.

I'm not unaware of America's sins. And I also lament what America is becoming. But given the estate of the world, a weak America at this point is an invitation to aggression.

And what I meant by geopolitical coup was a 2nd democracy in the Middle East. But this would have taken a couple of generations and the American people suffer from short attention spans.

And despite her sins, America has done great good in the world and continues to do so. Question: when Trump decimated ISIS, where was your outrage? Do you imagine there we no innocents killed then? Where is your outrage over Muslims killing Muslims around the world? Where is your outpouring of care for Uyghurs? Where is your allegiance to the people of God being persecuted around the world? None of these are being done by Israel. In my opinion, Israel should have already destroyed Hamas and be well on their way to wiping out the Houthis. After that, Iran. Problem solved.

 

[Magenta]

Further to his contention this did not start on October 7th.
There where mass atrocities in 1948 when about 15,000 Palestinians were killed, raped etc., etc.,

You don't go back far enough. But then again, you seem to dismiss Islam as having anything to do with anything.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Those who will not condemn the slaughter of thousands of innocent kids but rather keep defending the actions of the same murderers, having not one level of understand of what is written that the Almighty abhors, are fake Christians. Fake Christians are pretenders who say they follow the teachings of Christ but who act just like the world when real life knocks on their doors.

So this is a loaded comment, peppered with a lot of your own assumptions and opinions. Let's break it down.

1. Those who will not condemn the slaughter of thousands of innocent kids...

There is no proof thousands of children have died in this war. Nor is there proof of slaughter. Those are heavily leaden words meant to be emotional. Israel yesterday sent out maps again to show people to move out of the area. They showed people with the maps in their hands. America, as much as they try to avoid killing citizens, do not send maps to show where they are about to hit. Slaughter is on purpose, deliberate. Like what happened on Oct 7. THAT was slaughter.

2. but rather keep defending the actions of the same murderers...

Again this is opinion until there is proof. Unbiased proof. Not the word of Hamas terrorists.

3.having not one level of understand of what is written that the Almighty abhors

Do you think the Almighty abhorred what happened on Oct 7? What do you think "for whoever touches you touches the apple of his eye" means??

4.Fake Christians are pretenders who say they follow the teachings of Christ but who act just like the world when real life knocks on their doors.

Yeah, I'm not sure what that is suppose to mean but I think it has a lot more to do with bias than facts.

Fake Christians are those who instead of condemning filth like this will instead defend it.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ggyLt9iTnGo?si=xc4ICMsuWmZekn7I

This again is proof of nothing. And if it is true and the IDF find out about it, that soldier will be dealt with.

Racists are those who vilify a group of people based on their ethnicity or assume their guilt while simultaneously assuming the innocence or victimhood of another group because of their ethnicity despite literal proof of their criminal actions. Racists are not morally consistent, but selectively condemn and defend based on who it is.

Mmm humm, well that's a rather wordy opinion and bias. And there isn't "literal" proof of anything as of yet. When this is done we will see what really happened. Not propaganda from Hamas, but actual proof.

Israel is an ethno-state.

Yes, I gathered that was your opinion, but what makes Israel an ethno state?

..........I don't even know what this statement is supposed to mean. Am I to take this to mean "because palestinian people (as you say) agreed with October 7th that they retroactively committed Holocaust against the Jews in the 1900s"??

I have no earthly idea how you came up with that conclusion. Nothing to do with what I was saying at all.

This is two scoopes of nonsense and over my doctor's daily recommended amount. And I can't even with the next quote. You say this...

...but then this...

What I said "Children were murdered in front of their parents, and parents were murdered in front of their children.
Because if that was done to my loved one, I would do anything, pay anything, to see them brought to justice.

...Even commit the same horrible crime not just to the perpetrators...but to innocent people that look like them who had absolutely nothing to do with what the perps did? It would be the perp's fault that you hurt those innocent people, right?
In your fix you wrote that "terrorists" committed the act, not an ethnic group, so does that justify systematically and intentionally targeting the ethnic group those terrorists are from, including 12 year olds?Amazing.

Yes, that's what I meant. Me and Liam Neeson are going to team up and use our very particular set of skills,skills we have acquired over a very long career. Don't be obtuse.

Here's the Israeli army singing. Note the line of their "slogan".
https://youtube.com/shorts/4Fy6wTB6QeU?si=5875ts1_PTwJeLNE

Propaganda. I'll believe the Palestinians are sincere when they turn their back on Hamas and join the IDF to be rid of them and then live in peace.

 

[HeIsHere]

I'm not unaware of America's sins. And I also lament what America is becoming. But given the estate of the world, a weak America at this point is an invitation to aggression.

And what I meant by geopolitical coup was a 2nd democracy in the Middle East. But this would have taken a couple of generations and the American people suffer from short attention spans.

And despite her sins, America has done great good in the world and continues to do so. Question: when Trump decimated ISIS, where was your outrage? Do you imagine there we no innocents killed then? Where is your outrage over Muslims killing Muslims around the world? Where is your outpouring of care for Uyghurs? Where is your allegiance to the people of God being persecuted around the world? None of these are being done by Israel. In my opinion, Israel should have already destroyed Hamas and be well on their way to wiping out the Houthis. After that, Iran. Problem solved.

Is your outrage posted anywhere on the internet on these issues, yet you feel free to make assumptions.

Since we have shifted to moral outrage and more on topic of this thread where is your moral outrage at the fact that

"Bibi" continued the cash flow to Hamas, despite concerns raised from within his own government.

I wonder why?

 

[ZNP]

Is your outrage posted anywhere on the internet on these issues, yet you feel free to make assumptions.

Since we have shifted to moral outrage and more on topic of this thread where is your moral outrage at the fact that

"Bibi" continued the cash flow to Hamas, despite concerns raised from within his own government.

I wonder why?

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I'm not outraged, I'm thankful.

I'm thankful that I am not the Lord, I don't have to sort all this stuff out figuring who is guilty and for what, that is God's job and Jesus' job.

I'm thankful that I have learned not to judge before the time and before all the facts are in, it is very humiliating to be a useful idiot and then have your shame made public for everyone to see. We saw that with those like Cuomo who were shaming the people who questioned whether the vaccine was truly safe and effective and now has to admit he was harmed by the vaccine. Thank you Lord for giving everyone in the world this kind of heads up so they could avoid sticking their foot in their mouth.

I'm thankful that this is turning people to the Lord. I was having a little less than 500 new people come to my blog about the rapture each day, since this war going on in the Middle East that has doubled to a little less than a 1,000. So I see what is happening as turning out to salvation for tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands worldwide if my little blog is any indication.

I'm also thankful that this helps all the believers to get right with Jesus. You see a lot of animosity, finger pointing, accusations flying and these are things people need to repent of. What a mercy that we could repent of these sins now and take the Lord's blood and be cleansed white as snow rather than showing up to the throne of God with these things unrepented of.

I'm also thankful for the fulfillment of prophesy. Jesus told us it would be as the days of Noah.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence (Hamas).

12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence (Hamas) through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

It is comforting to know that the Lord of all told us about this 2,000 years ago. It fills me with peace knowing He is in charge and all things are being worked out according to His will.

 

[ZNP]

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