Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
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Actually.....we can estimate with a high degree of confidence.
The day and the hour of the snatching of the Bride (which MUST take place before the Wife of YHVH goes thru the tribulation) we do not know. But we definitely CAN know the times and the seasons.
And these are the times and the season. Evidenced infallibly by God's timepiece......ISRAEL.
The nation ISRAEL.....in and of itself.....is a sign. Always was, always will be.
The day and the hour of the snatching of the Bride (which MUST take place before the Wife of YHVH goes thru the tribulation) we do not know. But we definitely CAN know the times and the seasons.
And these are the times and the season. Evidenced infallibly by God's timepiece......ISRAEL.
The nation ISRAEL.....in and of itself.....is a sign. Always was, always will be.
Since this thread concerns Trump, I'll link this new article.
I wonder if the losing side will ever actually leave like they say they will. The last paragraph about nowhere else to go is similar to what I heard and ex KGB agent speak of years ago in warning Americans that if the US falls apart, there's nowhere else to go to have what America has. But this is some decades ago now.
Assuming the rats nest concept of the US gov't is accurate, cleaning it out would seem a good thing.
I wonder if the losing side will ever actually leave like they say they will. The last paragraph about nowhere else to go is similar to what I heard and ex KGB agent speak of years ago in warning Americans that if the US falls apart, there's nowhere else to go to have what America has. But this is some decades ago now.
Assuming the rats nest concept of the US gov't is accurate, cleaning it out would seem a good thing.
The word "irrefutable" in discussions like these, especially having to do with eschatology, immediately raises my awareness antennae. At this point, again, especially re: eschatology, all that those antennae typically do is cause me to move on to something else.
Those articles are lengthy. They look to be based upon some of Chuck Missler's work in or around 2,000. Your point in posting them? Do you see them as irrefutable? Have you read or listened to others who propose to refute them?
Those articles are lengthy. They look to be based upon some of Chuck Missler's work in or around 2,000. Your point in posting them? Do you see them as irrefutable? Have you read or listened to others who propose to refute them?
Babylon Bee, through parody, is kicking butt and taking names, and clearly showing it’s impossible to vote Democrat and be a Christian today :
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1787540804103233881
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1787540804103233881
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I know those who interpret eschatology differently than you do are similarly comforted from their sweat equity. I've also seen all sides claim their positions to be irrefutable.
Then I've seen some recognize and admit that eschatology is still being worked out in the Church the same way other major areas of study were worked out in history, some over very long periods of time and debate.
It's good you're very comforted. I'm also comfortable in my position after being trained in one system and later deciding to venture out and read some major works in other systems rather than allow one system's adherents to tell me how they viewed the others. For what it's worth, among other things, I read or heard Missler's work decades ago and saw no need to read a repeat of it in your posted articles. I'm pretty certain I read similar analysis from one or more of his contemporaries.
As I said, a claim to irrefutability means little to me at this point. 1948 and 1967 are interesting, but have also required, for one thing, that the definition of a "generation" be revised as forecasts from there have come and gone without forecasted events taking place. So, now we're at drones instead of apache helicopters being locusts, and both replacing all the unrealized ideas that came before these.
My deep-dives were lead to go elsewhere in Scripture. Along the way I began to view the eschatology battles and conferences as Christian entertainment - even distractions - some of which have been and are driving some interesting things going on in the world.
Ultimately I think it's going to be interesting to sort out where various eschatological ideas were in themselves the cause for many things that took place. We're already doing this to some degree. His ways are still mysterious no matter how irrefutable or infallible we think we are. He uses His creation for His telos and knows from before the beginning how every word He spoke or inspired would be interpreted and used and what would come of all of it. This is some of my comforting eschatology that doesn't require me to join this or that "irrefutable" interpretation or "___ism" and take on some label of "____ist".
Then I've seen some recognize and admit that eschatology is still being worked out in the Church the same way other major areas of study were worked out in history, some over very long periods of time and debate.
It's good you're very comforted. I'm also comfortable in my position after being trained in one system and later deciding to venture out and read some major works in other systems rather than allow one system's adherents to tell me how they viewed the others. For what it's worth, among other things, I read or heard Missler's work decades ago and saw no need to read a repeat of it in your posted articles. I'm pretty certain I read similar analysis from one or more of his contemporaries.
As I said, a claim to irrefutability means little to me at this point. 1948 and 1967 are interesting, but have also required, for one thing, that the definition of a "generation" be revised as forecasts from there have come and gone without forecasted events taking place. So, now we're at drones instead of apache helicopters being locusts, and both replacing all the unrealized ideas that came before these.
My deep-dives were lead to go elsewhere in Scripture. Along the way I began to view the eschatology battles and conferences as Christian entertainment - even distractions - some of which have been and are driving some interesting things going on in the world.
Ultimately I think it's going to be interesting to sort out where various eschatological ideas were in themselves the cause for many things that took place. We're already doing this to some degree. His ways are still mysterious no matter how irrefutable or infallible we think we are. He uses His creation for His telos and knows from before the beginning how every word He spoke or inspired would be interpreted and used and what would come of all of it. This is some of my comforting eschatology that doesn't require me to join this or that "irrefutable" interpretation or "___ism" and take on some label of "____ist".
The Biden administration is predicting that this coming election will be a horror story that would best be likened to that classic movie "Night of the Living Dead"! They are looking for those 81 million voters who voted for Biden by mail in votes to actually come to the polling places!
[The screen fades from black to a dimly lit polling place, the sound of heavy breathing and panicked whispers fills the air. The camera pans across the faces of terrified individuals huddled together, their eyes wide with fear.]
Narrator: "In a world torn apart by chaos and fear..."
[Images flash across the screen of streets overrun by chaos, news reports blaring about an unprecedented crisis.]
Narrator: "One night will test the resilience of humanity..."
[The sound of banging on the doors echoes through the polling place, causing everyone to tense up.]
Narrator: "As the dead rise to vote for Biden..."
[Shadows move outside the windows, distorted figures clawing at the glass.]
Voiceover (woman's voice): "They're breaking in!"
[The camera zooms in on a group of survivors, their faces determined despite their fear.]
Survivor 1: "We need to hold them off until the social worker arrives!"
Survivor 2: "But who's coming to help us? Everyone's out there!"
[The survivors barricade the doors and windows as the horde of zombies presses closer.]
Narrator: "Election of the Undead. Coming soon"
[The screen fades from black to a dimly lit polling place, the sound of heavy breathing and panicked whispers fills the air. The camera pans across the faces of terrified individuals huddled together, their eyes wide with fear.]
Narrator: "In a world torn apart by chaos and fear..."
[Images flash across the screen of streets overrun by chaos, news reports blaring about an unprecedented crisis.]
Narrator: "One night will test the resilience of humanity..."
[The sound of banging on the doors echoes through the polling place, causing everyone to tense up.]
Narrator: "As the dead rise to vote for Biden..."
[Shadows move outside the windows, distorted figures clawing at the glass.]
Voiceover (woman's voice): "They're breaking in!"
[The camera zooms in on a group of survivors, their faces determined despite their fear.]
Survivor 1: "We need to hold them off until the social worker arrives!"
Survivor 2: "But who's coming to help us? Everyone's out there!"
[The survivors barricade the doors and windows as the horde of zombies presses closer.]
Narrator: "Election of the Undead. Coming soon"
Timely. I was sitting in a coffee shop early yesterday morning and saw a guy walk by in a big, furry dolphin suit (the video Jesus mentioned Him about half-way through). At first I thought he just forgot to change out of his strange jammies before walking to the store. Then I remembered the time and country (US) we're living in and now, how it's probably OK in our time to identify as irrefutable.