Will God's judgment fall on the US in 2024?

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ZNP

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Please note everything I am saying is an educated guess, there is no "thus saith the Lord" here. Simply looking at the newspaper, the Bible, and making logical conclusions and interpretations. In my opinion what I am doing is no different than what a weatherman does, or a stock broker does, or someone studying the climate or any of a number of scientific prognostications. Also the value in this is the same. We want to know the weather ahead of time so we can act appropriately, even if we are not always right. Likewise with investments and a myriad of other decisions we make. Also, remember all those telling you that this is not going to happen this year are also making a prediction.

No one knows the day or the hour

This also is true and was repeated by Jesus several times. I believe the word of God should be taken literally when it is spoken in a literal sense and that would include this word. There are figurative words and I'll give an example of one from Hosea next. But the Lord was precise and never once did He say "no one knows the year or the season". Because of that I see a prohibition on trying to discern the day or the hour, but not on looking into the year. 2nd, Jesus rebuked the Jews because they did not know the time of their visitation. That word is equally the word of Jesus, it should be taken literally. In Revelation 3:3 Jesus rebuked Sardis and told them if they didn't watch they would not know the hour of His coming. That would not make sense if no one can know which then brings us back to the Lord's word. He never said "no one can know" He simply said "no one knows", present tense. For example, in a figurative word from the parable of the ten virgins they hear a midnight cry that the Bridegroom comes. So it is very reasonable to assume there will be an alarm prior to Jesus return that those who are paying attention will hear. That corresponds to Jesus word to Sardis to watch. So although the Bible does not tell us the day or the hour it does tell us signs to watch for and if we are watching things that others ignore we will pay close attention to. For example, during the Feast of Trumpets in 2014 we learned of two cows born with a 7 on their forehead. One was black and had a beautiful seven and the second one was red and had a very simple 7. To me that reminded me of Pharaoh's dream. The seven years did not start from the dream, he had to first get Joseph to interpret it and then set him up as prime minister, so to my mind this began in 2015. Seven years later was 2022 and that would be when the seven years of famine began. My point is that there are lot of signs like this that believers should be paying attention to.

The exact year of Jesus crucifixion was prophesied in the Bible

You can use Jeremiah to learn how long the time of exile in Babylon would be. That prophesy was based on the law in the Torah of giving the land a year of rest every seven years. Then in Daniel he saw that prior to the decree to return and began praying accordingly. Also, in Daniel you can use his prophecies to exactly predict the year of Jesus crucifixion. He does not tell you the day or the hour, but if you then listen to John the Baptist at the start of Jesus' ministry he says "behold the lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world". That was a strong word that Jesus would be sacrificed as a sin offering and certainly would make Passover the top candidate. If you then followed Jesus closely during the ministry you would have heard Him say He was going up to Jerusalem and would be crucified. Even if the word did not sink in then there were many other words spoken prior to the crucifixion where you would have known the day and the hour prior to it happening, if only a few hours before. We also believe that the Magi who saw the star in the heavens were taught by Daniel what the sign of Jesus' birth in Israel would be. You might have picked up on Simeon and Ana prophesying, etc. My point is that even though at it might have been hard to figure out when Jesus ministry would be from the book of Daniel alone, as you get closer and closer to the event you were given more and more clues. Signs in the heavens, prophesies, dreams, visions, etc.

In Hosea we are told that after 2 days Jesus will return.

6:1 Come, and let us return unto the Lord: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

You can interpret those two days as two thousand years. Interestingly it was exactly two years after the Baker (in the story of Joseph and Pharaoh) had been lifted up on a pole and his flesh eaten by the birds that Joseph is elevated to prime minister. The baker could refer to the Jewish rabbis, and being lifted up on a pole to the crucifixion of Jesus. They fed the jewish people bread, but Jesus warned us to beware of their leaven and they rejected Jesus exactly two thousand years prior to Jesus becoming Prime Minister. These are allegorical teachings, a mixture of literal and allegorical, but they are prophetic and every thing that has come into being has come into being through the word of God. Since Jesus crucifixion is so critical in Human history, the most pivotal event in all of human history, it is important to know when it took place. I think the evidence is strongest for 31 AD though there is dispute on this with people supporting 30AD to 33AD as possible years. However, I think that the destruction of the temple in 70AD should be 40 years later. I also disagree with Christianities date for Pentecost, I feel Pentecost was the feast of New Wine on the 8th of Av, and the temple was destroyed on the 9th of Av. The disciples began preaching the gospel that Jesus was the Christ on the 8th of Av 31AD and that was the first of 40 years with the 9th of Av in 70AD being the first day of the 40th year. I think that is very significant.

Therefore 2,000 years after Jesus ascension would be on Shavout (50 days prior to the 8th of Av) in 2031. We are told in Acts that we will see Jesus return just as He left and based on Hosea 6:2 and other allegorical prophecies I interpret that to be 2,000 years after He left. That is when I think the Jews will see Jesus return to the Mount of Olives in great glory at the end of the tribulation prior to Armageddon. That would mean that 2032 would be the start of the millennial reign and that appears to agree with the prophecy in the Psalms.

Now there are three different calendars here, the one we use today, the Hebrew one from Moses, and the idea that Rosh Hashanah is the start or head of the year for the whole world (Noah's calendar?). But despite all the confusion that creates I believe that the US will be judged by God in 2024. The ideal time would be the 9th of Av but that is simply speculation based on God's judgement for unbelief favoring that day. I realize some will want to know more about this, but this post is already long enough and I'll have to fill in more details in later posts.
 

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Question 1

What is your basis to say that judgement will fall on the US?

There have been numerous dreams, visions and prophecies warning of this. But my primary source to say this is the Bible.

This is a 2 hour discussion of the evidence that Mystery, Babylon the Great refers to the USA.


This is not a comprehensive answer, if necessary I can provide many, many more prophecies and current events pointing to this judgment on the US.
 

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Very interesting.
I will wait for more.
I believe the US is the Daughter of Babylon, the Harlot, the Whore.
It fits this nation today.
 

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Will God's judgment fall on the US in 2024?

I just get the point, there is no prophecy in scripture which centers around the the USA.
 

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Very interesting.
I will wait for more.
I believe the US is the Daughter of Babylon, the Harlot, the Whore.
It fits this nation today.
I’d like to share a personal experience with you, as not long ago I too was of the mind that America could very well be the Babylon described in scripture.
I do not claim to speak for God. I do however believe that God speaks to us through His Spirit and through His Word. When someone says to me “God told me” I’m all ears. When someone says “God told me to tell you”, we’ll, that’s another situation altogether, color me skeptical.

That being said.
I had opened my bible one morning and my phone rang. It sat in my lap as I took the call. When I got off the phone I started to flip the page to where I was intending to read, but the Lord stopped me, and I felt seriously led to read the page I was on. Jeremiah chapter 51. Come out of her my people spoke the Lord. Where? I replied. Where shall I go?
I have come to expect answers from God in my life, even if the answer is silence. But this silence endured for a very long time. More than a year later, and seemingly at random, as Babylon was the furthest thing from my thoughts at the moment. I heard in my spirit these words. “Babylon is a System”. Up until that time I had believed that Babylon was a location and that it might just be my location, America. My prayers were formulated around this misconception, and therefore no answer was received. Until of course at the appropriate hour, the Lord cleared up my misconceptions.

The Lord seriously impressed upon me at that time that Babylon was not a place but a system. Since then I have made many strides to do as instructed and separate myself from this system.

The more I withdraw from this evil system, the more clear it becomes to me just how strong of a grip satan has upon this world and those who inhabit it. I am by no means excluded. This phone in my hand is presently my last connection to the Babylon System, and it has occurred to me from all the efforts I have made to set it down once and for all, that it may very well be the linchpin of the system, the portal through which satan controls the masses, the open door through which we give him access to our hearts and minds. It’s not the only door of course, movies, music, tv, unrepentant sins, idolatries etc are all doorways to evil. But the phone, if we are honest with ourselves, most of us are horribly addicted to this device and similar devices. And if judged merely by the time spent, being that time is our most precious commodity, our devotion to whatever it is these devices seem to provide, far exceeds our devotion to the One whom we profess to know and love and honor as Lord and God.

Just something I wanted to share. Something to think about. Mercy and Love and Peace to you in His Most Holy Name.
 

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Will God's judgment fall on the US in 2024? Don't know; not really concerned about it. Scripture teaches us to always be ready; so I'm trusting in Him to see me through today.

"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble." Matthew 6:34
 

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Could it be that you're just bored and glomming onto or coming up with new conspiracies just to make your life a little more exciting? Because you constantly do this.

As such, I don't believe that the US is Babylon (with other reasons) and therefore, nothing destructive will happen to NYC or this nation this year.

Of course when nothing happens and this year passes, you'll just ignore that you've ever posted about it and glom onto or make up some other new conspiracies.

I think you need to ask God for some sort of healing since you keep doing this. Whatever the case, it should be resolved so that you don't keep sensationalizing things, as it has become a case of the boy who cried wolf too many times.


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ZNP

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Could it be that you're just bored and glomming onto or coming up with new conspiracies just to make your life a little more exciting? Because you constantly do this.

As such, I don't believe that the US is Babylon (with other reasons) and therefore, nothing destructive will happen to NYC or this nation this year.

Of course when nothing happens and this year passes, you'll just ignore that you've ever posted about it and glom onto or make up some other new conspiracies.

I think you need to ask God for some sort of healing since you keep doing this. Whatever the case, it should be resolved so that you don't keep sensationalizing things, as it has become a case of the boy who cried wolf too many times.


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Oh the irony!

In one post you say that this will not happen because the Lord would have warned the church first, in this post you say I have been constantly warning until I have turned blue in the face.
 

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There are several events happening in current events which make me feel like 2024 will be a pivotal year and led me to this conclusion.

1. This is an election year and it should be obvious to all that those in power will do anything to keep Trump from winning while at the same time the polls indicate a landslide victory. Four years ago they controlled the narrative in the news, today they don't. As a result they can't hide the polls and with the other measures taken to prevent election fraud the opportunity to steal the election is much more difficult than 4 years ago. Therefore this election is a deadline for them.

2. A major event for me will be when it becomes clear that AI is taking all the jobs so that kids graduating from college cannot get a job. I have been watching carefully over this topic of AI to get a sense of when this would be. Since June, July and August would be when it would become obvious that college graduates are not getting jobs that is the season I expect to know. It is an educated guess that this will happen this summer based on ChatGPT 5 being released and the massive improvement in ChatGPT in the last twelve months indicating the rate at which this improves, and the layoffs we saw last year, and the fact that Fortune 500 companies hire people based on what they expect to get over the next five years. The robots are also advancing very quickly, but that would be more blue collar jobs. The only caveat I see is whether or not the infrastructure is ready to handle AI taking 15% of the jobs. But Fortune 500 companies have their own infrastructure.

3. An attack on the US would be devastating to the world's economy. As a result the world would have to disconnect themselves from a sinking US if they don't want to be dragged down as well. Even if they wanted to attack the US sooner they needed BRICS and they needed this recent announcement from the WEF that 98% of countries and banks are ready to move to a CBDC. Wars are fought over control of the currency, saying that 98% are ready to move to a CBDC is an act of rebellion against "King dollar". I see that as the clearest declaration of war there is.

4. I think it is clear that Russia, China and Iran have allied themselves together and that all three will benefit by the US collapse. China wants Taiwan, Iran wants Israel and Russia wants Europe. The US is restraining them in all three cases.

5. The global pandemic framed China, however we know that the US was really the one behind it. Half the world hates the US already, if they have evidence that the US orchestrated the global pandemic and that the vaccine is not "safe and effective" then they will be able to justify themselves to the other half of the world when they destroy the US.

6. The US is crossing several red lines with God and the Lord Jesus. The apostate church has crossed some lines, the pandemic crossed some lines, using the Kazarian mafia in Ukraine to launder money for US elections crosses some lines, and abandoning Israel crosses lines. The US has received clear and undeniable warnings on every point and God will judge this nation for these things.
 

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Oh the irony!

In one post you say that this will not happen because the Lord would have warned the church first, in this post you say I have been constantly warning until I have turned blue in the face.

There's no irony in what I wrote. God DOES warn His people before something happens.

You on the other hand jump on every new conspiracy or imagining them if there aren't any. God has nothing to do with your constant state of alarm.


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There's no irony in what I wrote. God DOES warn His people before something happens.

You on the other hand jump on every new conspiracy or imagining them if there aren't any. God has nothing to do with your constant state of alarm.


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You give me too much credit, what about David Wilkerson? Dumitri Duduman? There have been many who have sounded this warning before me.
 

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Time's Square Church -- You have been officially warned

"To be entirely safe from the devil's snares the man of God must be completely obedient to the word of the Lord" that he is safe "not when he read the signs but when he obey them" A. W. Tozer quoted by Stan Jouk as sermon to Time's Square Church in April of 2024.

https://sermons.tsc.nyc/samsons-warning/

Samson was warned by his parents and yet he said the girl was good in his eyes. Samson was warned but ignored that warning and walked by his own sight.

God uses Samson to show all Israel you can't make friends with the Philistines.

Stan points out in this message that the Israelites did not have any weapons with which to stand against the Philistines. He is speaking in NYC where it is very difficult to get a license to own a gun much less carry one.

His point is that God's people were too cozy, too comfortable, ineffective warriors.

He says this is the kind of oppression we have today trying to be polite, trying to get along, superficially peaceful, but beneath the surface there is oppression.

He asks "how much energy do we exert to evade our true condition". He says "Jesus is not afraid to come into our situation and call things as they are".

He says that the situation is that God's people are enmeshed with the world and the way out is a complete separation.

He walks through Samson's life, the strong man who is supposed to be separated from the all these things and yet he is chasing after them. This is why the apostate church has become blind. This is why Samson became blind.

The good news is if you lock Samson up, gouge out his eyes, and mock him he will repent and turn once again to God.


"Do not be deceived, whatever you sow you will reap, God is not mocked" Stan Jouk quoting Galatians 6 as a warning to Time's Square Church.
 

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3 lessons we can learn from Samson*

1. Holiness is not just for show. Samson thought he could maintain an outward show of holiness. There are three requirements for a nazarite. That is only one of the three requirements, the outward show requirement. The other two requirements were to go out from the midst of the idol worship and touch no unclean thing. Samson made himself a friend of the world and so he became an enemy of God. This is the definition of the apostate church, they are friends of the world.

2. A lack of devotion is just what temptation orders. It is the perfect environment for sin. A nazarite is supposed to be wholly separated, but not just separated, separated "unto the Lord". He was supposed to spend his life in devotion to the Lord. Being separated creates space to be devoted to the Lord. Nature abhors a vacuum, you pour the world out of yourself but then you must fill the void with the Lord.

3. Greatest victories can still come even after the greatest of failures. There are some failures that take everything. It was in this great failure that we finally hear Samson cry out to the Lord.

Paul said "I have been crucified with Christ and it is no longer I that live". The story of Samson shows us what we must go through to arrive at this point. I believe that the "tribulation" is an opportunity for all those who heard the word but didn't obey it to get a second chance. Greatest victories will come after the greatest failures for the apostate church.

*This was the official warning given to Times Square Church by Stan Jouk.
 

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One mistake many people make

They think that these people would never sell out the US to Russia or China. Why would they weaken our military and open us up to attack?

That is the wrong way to look at this. We are told in the Bible that the day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night. The elected officials are not trying to bring down the US anymore than a parasite wants the host animal to die. They are saying "with a $6 trillion budget no one will miss $1 million". It is like termites, they are not trying to bring down the house, just feed their family which grows to a million little corrupt officials all taking their small bite out of the budget. That is how they weaken the US, that is why NYC is such a mess. There is an economy of scale, NYC should be the safest, cleanest and best run city in the US, instead what you are seeing is a city infested with parasites.
 

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Here are four news stories that all indicate how close we are to this imminent attack.

1. The antisemitism bill passed by the US congress could be used to make the Bible illegal. We know that the Bible will be illegal during the tribulation period described in Revelation where it is a capital offense to not worship the beast. 20 years ago such a thing was unthinkable. However, there is a woman who was elected to parliament in Finland or one of those countries that has had two court cases against her for "hate speech" because she tweeted a bible verse.

2. Evidence has just been released that would convict Biden and the FBI and Secret Service of being traitors. This election is a matter of life or death to many people.

3. Russia has just released "classified" documents that were just declassified which would justify them in attacking NATO because NATO has violated a treaty they had with Russia. They are laying the groundwork to explain an attack, not to their allies, but to our allies.

4. Mike Lindell has just signed up Colorado to get rid of mail in ballots. This is huge. He has been working county by county and State by state. But imagine if a blue state like Colorado eliminates mail in ballots and all of a sudden they vote for Trump. It would call into question any swing state or red state voting for Biden. Once again they cannot wait till after the election.

 

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I have said before that there will be blood in the streets no matter who is pronounced the winner of the presidential election ibn November.
Those in power will not leave without a fight and those who support Trump will not accept his defeat, legally or by fraud, without a fight.
Another thing to consider is that Islamic terrorist have come across the Southern border in great numbers in the last three years and are just waiting orders to attack.
No law enforcement groups are prepared to deal with terrorist attacks and neither is enough of the National Guard units in the US.
The Islamic terrorist can bring this nation down in a short time.
What we see in the news today in the cities is just the beginning of a long summer of violence.
Will it be total destruction in 2024? Probably not, but I believe it will begin no later than November.
Those who believe it cannot or will not happen in this nation are ignoring the fact this nation has turned from God, from Israel, and God has a habit of using evil people to punish those who turn from Him.
Wake up people!
Get right with God, separate yourself from the evil ways of this nation.
 

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I have said before that there will be blood in the streets no matter who is pronounced the winner of the presidential election ibn November.
Those in power will not leave without a fight and those who support Trump will not accept his defeat, legally or by fraud, without a fight.
Another thing to consider is that Islamic terrorist have come across the Southern border in great numbers in the last three years and are just waiting orders to attack.
No law enforcement groups are prepared to deal with terrorist attacks and neither is enough of the National Guard units in the US.
The Islamic terrorist can bring this nation down in a short time.
What we see in the news today in the cities is just the beginning of a long summer of violence.
Will it be total destruction in 2024? Probably not, but I believe it will begin no later than November.
Those who believe it cannot or will not happen in this nation are ignoring the fact this nation has turned from God, from Israel, and God has a habit of using evil people to punish those who turn from Him.
Wake up people!
Get right with God separate from the evil ways of this nation.
Agreed, and these campus protests are setting the stage for street protests and makes it confusing so you might think college kids are behind it instead of 10 million illegals.
 

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Time's Square Church -- The warning has been confirmed "We need to have people who stand when hell comes against us"


The Great Falling Away in the Church is Here | Tim Dilena

"I see what's ahead and what we are about to face" Tim Dilena

Maybe the reason young people are leaving the church is not because there is something wrong with them but because there is something wrong with the church.

He talks about the Pastors being afraid to stand for Israel lest they attract protests, he said he was even fearful to share this message.

"I don't need a circus, I need people who are ministering unto Jesus Christ" Tim Dilena