The 'ELECT' vs 'Free-Choice'

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Everlasting-Grace

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Are all the people that are mentioned in the book of Revelation alive now?

Were they alive 300 years ago?
God knew they would be.

What God knows, and sees as alive.
He declared to be alive, awaiting to be revealed as God predetermined them to be on earth.
He declared they would be conformed to his image..

Because he knew them..even though they were not even yet in existence
 

BeeBlessed

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Saul had a choice. He could have remained proud and Blind.

This no one has a choice stuff is not true
Try saying that when the Lord prods you with something very sharp. Paul had a choice only AFTER his spiritual awakening, but that “goad” must have been sharp enough that he persevered, even though he had plenty of reasons to give up. And I didn’t say no one has a choice.
 

Genez

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Well done some people don't have manners and some people do. 😊
So you act rude? To see who is going to be rude towards your rudeness?

So you can take a self righteous stand against them?
 

Genez

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He declared they would be conformed to his image..

Because he knew them..even though they were not even yet in existence
All that aside..

He declared them to be alive. When they were not even born yet.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Try saying that when the Lord prods you with something very sharp. Paul had a choice only AFTER his spiritual awakening, but that “goad” must have been sharp enough that he persevered, even though he had plenty of reasons to give up. And I didn’t say no one has a choice.
Paul had a choice before he went on that journey

He had a choice after he was knocked off his horse

He had a choice when he was in the room and Met the man God sent to him.

He had a choice even after he became saved.

He had a choice from the moment his mother gave birth until the day he died.
 
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from what I see you serve yourself..

and anyone who questions you is under attack..

Good day sir..
Well the reason I don't serve two masters is because you end up hating one and loving the other

Something your so evidently doing emoji-smiley.gif

And seeing as I'm not a hater, I avoid it emoji-smiley.gif

You've learned a valuable lesson today
 

Genez

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he had another profile in which he called himself a prophet and if you think this thread is populated with alot of his nonsense, you should have seen those threads

he refuses to stop
He is not a prophet. He is a psychic.

I have had contact with some and they are in touch with a secret world that makes them feel they are above everyone who is oblivious to the demonic powers that flow amongst people effecting their lives.

Its why God warned against false prophets, and even demanded capital punishment for them in the OT.

We can know its demonic by how his words keep trying to tear down any cohesive narrative when some try to delve into better clarifying a doctrinal point. He's that attention seeking pain we knew in class that the teacher had to stop teaching and reprimand... He thinks he is better than everyone else because demons always guide him to what he thinks is safety...

To the Lord? He is like the boy that cried wolf...

Unless he humbles himself and repents, the sand in God's hourglass is running out on his allotted time for correction.

Remember... That boy that cried wolf used to laugh at the people who came to his aid like they were fools. Until they listened no more.
 

Genez

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Any ideas why you should not hate a brother
We are commanded to hate evil.
Just stop standing between us and that evil that is using you.

Psalm 97:10

Let those who love the Lord hate evil,
for he guards the lives of his faithful ones
and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

Your time will come.
 
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We know whom you serve,,,,, His fingerprints are all over what you do.

For now you are getting the attention you crave and lust for. We know you can't help yourself.
Do you know why you should not show favouritism

And once again don't try to be everyone, your not emoji-smiley.gif
 

Genez

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Where is this in scripture?
Read the book of Revelation and see how God knows who will be alive during the Tribulation.

He does not name people by name... He names them by saying what their choices will be.
He already knows who the 144,000 Jewish evangelists will be.
 
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We are commanded to hate evil.
Just stop standing between us and that evil that is using you.

Psalm 97:10

Let those who love the Lord hate evil,
for he guards the lives of his faithful ones
and delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

Your time will come.
do you know why you should not hate a brother
 

Genez

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Do you know why you should not show favouritism

And once again don't try to be everyone, your not View attachment 263433
You remind me when Jesus met up with Satan in the wilderness how Satan was adept at quoting and distorting Scripture.
Scripture that he memorized, but did not understand.

I do not take any pleasure in saying what I need to tell you.

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Read the book of Revelation and see how God knows who will be alive during the Tribulation.

He does not name people by name... He names them by saying what their choices will be.
He already knows who the 144,000 Jewish evangelists will be.
I don't recall the scripture saying the 144000 where all Jewish