what make you think you have the right to choose
But I say unto you that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment.
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But I say unto you that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment.
unlike you I know exactly who this thread is aimed at.
And it's aimed at one Pacific person who happens to be a very nice person
Have no clue what this post is about. Only have to assume you are once again trying to get off topic and ruin a thread
So your God?
The thread is quite simple.. show a different believe other than the arminian/calvin debate..
You keep trying to turn it into a calvin debate. which is off topic
Either respond to the thread or move on
are you free to choose
But I say unto you that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment.
She also said that she did not want to discuss Calvinism.
Read the room, pal.
well I'm happy to discuss true calvinist beliefs not fake ones thank you for wonderful kindness and Christian love
Are you free to choose
But I say unto you that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment.
Free Choice is all throughout the Bible.
21 And the people said unto Joshua: 'Nay; but we will serve the LORD.'
22 And Joshua said unto the people: 'Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve Him.--And they said: 'We are witnesses.'--
23 Now therefore put away the strange gods which are among you, and incline your heart unto the LORD, the God of Israel.'
24 And the people said unto Joshua: 'The LORD our God will we serve, and unto His voice will we hearken.'
The people freely chose to put away their strange gods to serve the true God.
No one made them, tricked them, forced them.
They chose by their own ability to make choices, Free Will.
21 And the people said unto Joshua: 'Nay; but we will serve the LORD.'
22 And Joshua said unto the people: 'Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve Him.--And they said: 'We are witnesses.'--
23 Now therefore put away the strange gods which are among you, and incline your heart unto the LORD, the God of Israel.'
24 And the people said unto Joshua: 'The LORD our God will we serve, and unto His voice will we hearken.'
The people freely chose to put away their strange gods to serve the true God.
No one made them, tricked them, forced them.
They chose by their own ability to make choices, Free Will.
Don't see free choice here do you
Through the prophet Jeremiah, the Lord declared, “This shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; . . . I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people” (Jeremiah 31:33).
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well it's obvious to me and probably most people. from the Old to the New testaments that is what we see
should we ignore you aiming this thread at just one person to and just go along with your interpretation.
Do you see free choice here
Through the prophet Jeremiah, the Lord declared, “This shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; . . . I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people” (Jeremiah 31:33).
Agreed to that sentiment 100%well it's obvious to me and probably most people. from the Old to the New testaments that is what we see
They could serve either the false gods or the real God. Everyone was able to decide which one they wanted to serve. Had there only been 1 option then that would mean no free will. But 2 options to pick from always shows free will.
I don't see free choice here
I see the lord speaking through people.
A bit like this really
16 I will give you the words I want you to say. I will cover you with my hands and protect you. I made the heavens and the earth, and I say to Jerusalem, 'You are my people.
God typically only speaks through people who already serve Him. These people were choosing who to serve. Clearly was not God speaking through them.