Predestination is misunderstood...
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I’m thinking that they (the tares) just don’t get it; they don’t understand the Gospel. Why? … because they have no ears to hear. Consider the parable of the sower:
Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: "Behold, a sower went out to sow. "And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. "Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. "But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. "And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. "But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"
- Matthew 13:3-9
Then He spoke many things to them in parables, saying: "Behold, a sower went out to sow. "And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the birds came and devoured them. "Some fell on stony places, where they did not have much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth. "But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered away. "And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up and choked them. "But others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. "He who has ears to hear, let him hear!"
- Matthew 13:3-9
10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building upon it. But let each man be careful how he builds upon it. 11 For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. (1 Cor. 3:10-11 NAS)
Verse 11 like much of the NC writing about Jesus elides the verb and/or the article between Jesus and Christ. But the foundation of the Gospel - the only foundation - is Jesus is [the] Christ.
This requires that we understand what "the Christ" is. We know who it is, but many don't seem to know what it is and what this title requires of men. Once understood, we can build from there.
Verse 11 like much of the NC writing about Jesus elides the verb and/or the article between Jesus and Christ. But the foundation of the Gospel - the only foundation - is Jesus is [the] Christ.
This requires that we understand what "the Christ" is. We know who it is, but many don't seem to know what it is and what this title requires of men. Once understood, we can build from there.
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; leave Me, you who practice lawlessness.’
Jesus said their acts that you refer to as “Supernatural,” were acts of “Lawlessness.”
Jesus said, “You can do nothing without me.” Apparently the foundation or motivation for these acts they performed, were done for self recognition, and not for the glory of God.
You and some others here are still missing the whole point....
How could they perform those supernatural acts? By what power if Jesus never knew them?
Satan has demons agree to have certain demons to remove themselves when a false teacher gives the command to do so.
It dupes the emotion driven people to believing he is a man of God - who then inundates them with false teachings.
Same with healings. We see in the book of Job that demonic power can induce illnesses. Same thing. Satan has demons
to agree to remove the illness upon command from some false teacher that Satan is promoting... The naive witnessing to this taking place then are suckers for learning false doctrine an giving money! MONEY!
Prophesy? The demonic realm has some insight into what is going on in the world because they are the proverbial 'fly on the wall' and can know what is coming down in the plans of men... or even someone's family. MONEY!
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right ... there are some sitting in church who think they are saved but they aren't which (to me) brings the total depravity issue into question (and I'm not saying whether or not you agree with total depravity). if natural man is so totally depraved, no unbelievers would be sitting in church thinking they are saved ... according to the total depravity-ers they would not seek God at all. yet, there they are sitting in church thinking they're saved.
There is a difference between mental assent and belief/believing (faith).
Mental assent reads the Bible but does not believe what is written (did God really say) ... agrees there is a God Who created the universe but does not believe in God ... mental assenters can live with or without God, which is sad because if a person can live without God, they aren't living.
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There is a difference between mental assent and belief/believing (faith).
Mental assent reads the Bible but does not believe what is written (did God really say) ... agrees there is a God Who created the universe but does not believe in God ... mental assenters can live with or without God, which is sad because if a person can live without God, they aren't living.
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