Can the nonelect ever be born-again? (2 Kings 22:27) With the elect thou wilt be elect: and with the perverse thou wilt be perverted.

[ThereRoseaLamb]

You say silly thing and misquote everything. Now you won't admit what you said,
.

Show where I misquoted anything. Post where it happened.

I exposed you as a liar ...
you have never defended any of the charges against you. .

Post where. Where did I lie, show me. Post it.

You just keep waffling on making ludicrous claims but you never qualify any of them.

Sounding like a broken record at this point. What ludicrous claims have I made. Show them.

you keep flying off the handle and uttering nonsense.
.

Post it. What nonsense. You have made these claims, now show proof.

Also you have not admitted that you were wrong with the red letter quote I took directly from John Calvin. I expect you to correct that.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

What's your problem with that, it's biblically correct. Show us why it's not!!

Look back at the verses I already quoted and you called rubbish. I've already ready posted on it. If you see nothing wrong with that quote it shows why we're having an issue here.

 

[Charlie_2024]

I have shown you already but her it is again in his best seeling book that he wrote before he died

https://ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes/institutes.iii.v.html


1. But though experience testifies that a seed of religion is divinely sown in all,

scarcely one in a hundred is found who cherishes it in his heart,

OK, that's a bit different to what you were saying. Jean said 99% get a poisonous seed planted in them and that condemns them to hell. That accurate, because Jesus said that very few are saved. So it's all good Calvin is till standing tall among Gods great men.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

OK, that's a bit different to what you were saying. Jean said 99% get a poisonous seed planted in them and that condemns them to hell. That accurate, because Jesus said that very few are saved. So it's all good Calvin is till standing tall among Gods great men.

That's fatalism Charlie

He said every man divinely gets a seed sown into them

 

[Charlie_2024]

I don't expect people to be Bible scholars, but comments like this show a horrible understanding of the Word.




You called him a servant of God. That was my point. He wasn't, he was a homosexual. One of those reprobates you love to hate and wouldn't let into your church.

You say it's a horrible understanding but you haven't provided a reason. So your feelings and emotions are messing with your capacity to reason.

You don't know if King James repented, so you passed judgement on the man without any facts to support your feelings.

 

[Charlie_2024]

Look back at the verses I already quoted and you called rubbish. I've already ready posted on it. If you see nothing wrong with that quote it shows why we're having an issue here.

I already told you several times that your comment regarding the end state of those God purposed to leave in their sin. You said they chose to reject the gospel and ended up in hell. I told you that was foolish because God killed billions of children and unborn babies before they ever had a chance to reject the gospel.

You ignored that biblical truth and didn't defend your false view but you simply kept on making false accusations and misquoting what I said.

You say ridiculous thigs like, "there weren't billions of people in the world at the time of the flood" but historians found that there was an estimated 6 billion drowned. It just shows again you push your imagination and private opinions as fact and it looks pathetic to those who know the truth of the matter.

 

[Charlie_2024]

That's fatalism Charlie

He said every man divinely gets a seed sown into them

Yes that's true, but the seed is turned to poison when it's sown into the poisonous reprobate. So there's no problem with the seed, the problem lies with the soil (reprobate people).

The gospel is a sweet smelling aroma to the elect, but it's the stench of death to the un elect. The seed can't grow in a poisonous person, there are only two types of people. Gods Children and the Devils Children and there's no other types of people.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

You do know he was a homosexual?

Yes, he was: Personal Relationships of James VI and I

The link talks about him with his male "favorites". (I'm shocked the KJV-only folks talk about gay people being involved in working on the NIV, but not with King James himself who commissioned the KJV).

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Yes that's true, but the seed is turned to poison when it's sown into the poisonous reprobate. So there's no problem with the seed, the problem lies with the soil (reprobate people).

The gospel is a sweet smelling aroma to the elect, but it's the stench of death to the un elect. The seed can't grow in a poisonous person, there are only two types of people. Gods Children and the Devils Children and there's no other types of people.

You know Charlie its the same seed.that gets given to all.

Scripture doesn't.say when people lose that seed.

What is does.say is some experience Joy in there heart before they do.

So it's the same seed by which people are saved by and which people are not.

So all are elected.to be saved

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

I already told you several times that your comment regarding the end state of those God purposed to leave in their sin. You said they chose to reject the gospel and ended up in hell. I told you that was foolish because God killed billions of children and unborn babies before they ever had a chance to reject the gospel.

You ignored that biblical truth and didn't defend your false view but you simply kept on making false accusations and misquoting what I said.

Show the proof. Post it.

You say ridiculous thigs like, "there weren't billions of people in the world at the time of the flood" but historians found that there was an estimated 6 billion drowned. It just shows again you push your imagination and private opinions as fact and it looks pathetic to those who know the truth of the matter.

The Bible doesn't say how many were drowned. Anything else is opinion and guessing. So neither of us will be right on this question. It's not possible to know 100%.

 

[Niki7]

To other posters, please read back. You will find I have used Scripture in several posts to prove what the Word has to say. Once again, this poster has outright lied, certainly not his first time.

true troll like behavior. I'm guessing he has been reported multiple times (I'm just ignoring him)

at this point I am wondering why he is still here. these are not just disagreements but heretical comments that no godly person should be capable of saying

smh

 

[Niki7]

Yes, he was: Personal Relationships of James VI and I

The link talks about him with his male "favorites". (I'm shocked the KJV-only folks talk about gay people being involved in working on the NIV, but not with King James himself who commissioned the KJV).

James did not commission the Bible because he loved God and wanted others to share in his faith. He did it for selfish reasons to better his own image and security

Why did King James commissioned the King James Bible?

To settle disagreements over reforms in the Church of England and respond to pressure from the Puritans, King James in 1604 approved a new translation of the Bible, primarily because he knew that it would reinforce his image as a political and spiritual leader.
find more here

plenty of info on the web. I linked to a concise and factual article regarding the commission of the Bible by the KJ

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Yes, he was: Personal Relationships of James VI and I

The link talks about him with his male "favorites". (I'm shocked the KJV-only folks talk about gay people being involved in working on the NIV, but not with King James himself who commissioned the KJV).

Wow I did not even know this!

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

James did not commission the Bible because he loved God and wanted others to share in his faith. He did it for selfish reasons to better his own image and security

Why did King James commissioned the King James Bible?

To settle disagreements over reforms in the Church of England and respond to pressure from the Puritans, King James in 1604 approved a new translation of the Bible, primarily because he knew that it would reinforce his image as a political and spiritual leader.
find more here

plenty of info on the web. I linked to a concise and factual article regarding the commission of the Bible by the KJ

I thought the king James bible was once called this bible

The Great Bible of 1539 was the first authorised edition of the Bible in English, authorised by King Henry VIII of England to be read aloud in the church services of the Church of England.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

James did not commission the Bible because he loved God and wanted others to share in his faith. He did it for selfish reasons to better his own image and security

Why did King James commissioned the King James Bible?

To settle disagreements over reforms in the Church of England and respond to pressure from the Puritans, King James in 1604 approved a new translation of the Bible, primarily because he knew that it would reinforce his image as a political and spiritual leader.
find more here

plenty of info on the web. I linked to a concise and factual article regarding the commission of the Bible by the KJ

here's a bit of history for you

The KJV was the third translation into English approved by the English Church authorities: The first had been the Great Bible (1535), and the second had been the Bishops' Bible (1568).[5] In Switzerland the first generation of Protestant Reformers had produced the Geneva Bible[6] which was published in 1560[7] having referred to the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures, which was influential in the writing of the Authorized King James Version.

The English Church initially used the officially sanctioned "Bishops' Bible", which was hardly used by the population. More popular was the named "Geneva Bible", which was created on the basis of the Tyndale translation in Geneva under the direct successor of the reformer John Calvin

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Yes that's true, but the seed is turned to poison when it's sown into the poisonous reprobate. So there's no problem with the seed, the problem lies with the soil (reprobate people).

The gospel is a sweet smelling aroma to the elect, but it's the stench of death to the un elect. The seed can't grow in a poisonous person, there are only two types of people. Gods Children and the Devils Children and there's no other types of people.

I can't see Jesus turning his own seed into poison sorry.

I'm sure scripture says it falls by the way side

 

[Niki7]

I thought the king James bible was once called this bible

The Great Bible of 1539 was the first authorised edition of the Bible in English, authorised by King Henry VIII of England to be read aloud in the church services of the Church of England.

Why would a bible authorized by King Henry be called the King James Bible? The KJV of the Bible was not the 1st translation

here's a bit of history for you

The KJV was the third translation into English approved by the English Church authorities: The first had been the Great Bible (1535), and the second had been the Bishops' Bible (1568).[5] In Switzerland the first generation of Protestant Reformers had produced the Geneva Bible[6] which was published in 1560[7] having referred to the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures, which was influential in the writing of the Authorized King James Version.

The English Church initially used the officially sanctioned "Bishops' Bible", which was hardly used by the population. More popular was the named "Geneva Bible", which was created on the basis of the Tyndale translation in Geneva under the direct successor of the reformer John Calvin

yes, well thanks for repeating what I already referenced. We can only hope that people do understand better that way

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Why would a bible authorized by King Henry be called the King James Bible? The KJV of the Bible was not the 1st translation


yes, well thanks for repeating what I already referenced. We can only hope that people do understand better that way

Yes I had forgot my history sorry.

The King James used the Geneva bike as reference,

Yep I'm not sure why they call it the king James bible.

It's called the kjv.

But I'm wondering whether the successor of Jean Calvin who translated the Geneva bible was a true calvinist which lead to the king James version

 

[Charlie_2024]

You know Charlie its the same seed.that gets given to all.

Scripture doesn't.say when people lose that seed.

What is does.say is some experience Joy in there heart before they do.

So it's the same seed by which people are saved by and which people are not.

So all are elected.to be saved

That's an unbiblical false doctrine, you should start believing in what God said and put aside your private views

 

[Charlie_2024]

Show the proof. Post it.





The Bible doesn't say how many were drowned. Anything else is opinion and guessing. So neither of us will be right on this question. It's not possible to know 100%.

I already showed you several times, but you obviously refused to admit what you said after I exposed it as false doctrine.

You obviously don't have a clue as to how many billions drowned, but you can't speak on behalf of the historical experts. They don't make claims based on their emotional state.